RL Circuit with Two Loops: Solving for Current and Switch Equation

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The original poster is working on a homework problem involving an RL circuit with two loops, one containing an emf and two resistors, and the other containing two resistors and an inductor. The task is to find the equation for the current through the inductor and the switch after the switch is closed at time = 0.

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Kirchhoff's loop rule and relates the currents in the loops but encounters discrepancies with the expected answers. They express uncertainty about their approach and the validity of their equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are reviewing the original poster's equations and providing feedback. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct formulation of the equations, and there is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the initial conditions and the role of the emf in the circuit.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the presence of an initial current in the second loop and the application of the time constant in the equations. The original poster acknowledges a mistake in their calculations, which has contributed to their uncertainty.

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I have a homework problem with an RL circuit. There are two loops in the circuit. One has the emf and two resistors and a switch and the other has two resistors and an inductor. The resistors, the inductor and the emf are all given values and I'm given that the switch is closed at time = 0 and to find the equation for the current through the inductor and the switch for the time after t = 0.

I tried using Kirchhoff's loop rule to see what I could come up with but I after I related Itotal, I1, I2 and solved for
e^(-t/T) my answers didn't match the ones in the book.

Is my approach correct or am I missing something?

Thanks
 
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IT will be helpful if you give fig and your try
 
Kirchhoff's rules, yes, but the devil is in the details. If you're still stuck, let's see your equations.
 
OK, I've posted a diagram.

I = I1 + I2

First Loop: 10V = 4ohmsI + 4ohmsI1
Second Loop: 10V = 4ohmsI + 8ohmsI2 + Ldi2/dt

If I divide both equations by 1 ohm:

First Loop: 10I = 4I + 4I1
Second Loop: 10I = 4I + 8I2 + L/R(di2/dt)

L/R = Time constant = T

4I1 = 6I
I1 = I - I2 so 4I2 = -2I ==> I = -2I2

Tdi2/dt + 8I2 = 6I
Tdi2/dt + 8I2 = 6(-2I2) = -12I2

Tdi2/dt = -20I2

di2/(20I2) = -1/T(dt)

integrate and ==> ln(20I2)/20 = e^(-t/T)

If I'm correct so far then this is where I get confused.

There's no emf in the second loop, so there's an initial current in the second loop?

I'm not sure which form of the equation for I in an RL circuit I should use. (no initial current, no emf, both) I'm also not sure that what I did with L/R above is valid.
 

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First loop should be:

10 = 4I + 4I1 (NOTE: 10, not 10I)

second loop:
10 = 4I + 8I2 + LdI2/dt

and L is 1 so you can leave it off & just say
10 = 4I + 8I2 + dI2/dt

I don't understand what that R is in your second loop equation, but the back emf is just LdI2/dt. No R.

Note also: you can also use as the second equation:
4I1 - 8i2 - dI2/dt
 
Thanks gnome.

That was a silly error. I have no idea why I put that 'I' in the equation. For some reason I thought I was dividing through by R instead of 1 ohm. Too tired. I'm glad the semester's almost over.
 

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