What is the electric field strength

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The problem involves calculating the electric field strength at a specific point due to three point charges: +8.2 µC, +4 µC, and -2.3 µC, positioned at specified distances from each other. The original poster is attempting to determine the net electric field strength at a point 2.7 cm to the left of the middle charge.

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  • Participants discuss the need to consider all three charges and their respective distances when calculating the electric field. There are questions regarding the correct distances and directions of the electric fields produced by each charge.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the setup of the problem, including the distances and directions of the electric fields. Some guidance has been offered regarding how to combine the electric field contributions from the charges, but there is still uncertainty about the reasoning behind the directionality of the fields.

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There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the distances between charges and the point of interest. Participants are also considering the implications of charge signs on the direction of the electric fields, which is central to the problem.

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Problem 16.
Three charges: +8.2uC 4.8 cm to the left of 4uC and a -2.3uC 2.1 cm to the right of the 4uC charge.
What is the electric field strength at a point 2.7cm to the left of the middle charge? In N/C.
Note" Is the answer 1.733218664*10^7 from the 8.99*10^9 (4*10^-6)/(0.027^2)=49327846.36 and (8.99*10^9)(8.2*10^-6)/(0.048^2)=31995659.72 which were subtracted to get that answer.
 
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You might want to look that over again.

For starters, there are 3 charges & you figured the field from only 2 (& got one of the distances wrong).

Draw a diagram first, & work from that.
 
I drew a diagram and have 8.2 uC 2.1 cm away from the point that is 2.7 cm to the left of the middle charge. In addition should i multiply 8.99*10^9 to -2.3uC divided by 3.1 cm and subtract what is now three values to get my answer?
 
First, where did you get 3.1 cm?

Second, make sure you keep the directions straight. The field from the positive 8.2 μC charge is directed toward the right. What are the directions of the other two fields?
i.e.: same direction = add; opposite direction = subtract

And don't forget, you are dividing by the square of the distance.
 
woops! From -2.3uC to 4 uC is 2.1cm and from 4 uC it is 2.7 cm to reach that point so the distance would be 4.8cm. So for -2.3uC I multiply 8.99*10^9 to -2.3uC divided by 4.8 cm or 0.048m?
 
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But think carefully about the directions. It's not just a question of the sign of the charge. You have to consider the relative positions of the particles.
 
The field from the +8.2 μC charge has the same direction at point P as the -2.3 μC charge.

Do you see why?
 
No, i don't see why 8.2uC and -2.3uC have the same direction. I got three values from 4*106-6 is 49327846.36, from 8.2*10^-6 is 167160997.7, and -2.3*10^-6 is 8974392.361. So would i add 167160997.7 to 8974392.361 and subtract that from 167160997.7/
 
No.

The direction of the electric field at any point P is the same as the direction of the electrical force that would be experienced by a positive "test" charge placed at that point.

In this problem, if you placed a positive test charge at point P, it would be repelled by the positive 8.2 μC charge (call that charge A) towards the right since they're both positive, so the component of the field from charge A at point P is directed toward the right.

But the negative 2.3 μC charge (call it C) would ATTRACT a positive charge, so a positive test charge located at point P would be pulled to the right. Therefore, the field component produced by charge C at point P is also directed toward the right.

Therefore, the field components of charges A and C at point P are added, not subtracted.

On the other hand, what would charge B (the +4 μC charge in the middle) do to a positive test charge at point P?

Get it?
 
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Are the three values I got from the charges right?
 
  • #11
Yes. Now you just have to figure out what to add & what to subtract.
 
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So gnome since you said that "The field from the +8.2 ìC charge has the same direction at point P as the -2.3 ìC charge." I would add
167160997.7 to 8974392.361 to get 176135390.1. From that I would subtract 49327846.36 and get 126807543.7, right?
 
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Yes, but do you understand why, or are you just taking my word for it?
 

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