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Drimar
Apr20-06, 08:04 PM
I am 45 now, single...

I married when I was doing my Phd in mathematics (dissertation: set theory in computer science) (26 years old). I just couldn't stand people's looks over my personality.
I like a lot of things, and have many dreams.

Before formally getting married, my g/f got pregnant and right in the year we became husband and wife, she gave me a baby girl (Tina)

Years after that, we dirvorced and I was allowed to keep the kid. Tina is now 20, a young beautiful girl studying in a big college far away from me.

I am so lonely...that's something I want to tell you.

Bladibla
Apr20-06, 08:52 PM
And just what is your point?

Gale
Apr20-06, 09:17 PM
it helps to just tell a bunch of random strangers eh? lonliness sucks pretty bad. seems like you've overall had a good life though. count your blessings i guess? what's your daughter studying? what things do you like?

JasonRox
Apr20-06, 09:46 PM
I think being alone is pleasant. I enjoy my own company, so I don't know what to say here though.

I'm also very young, so I can be naive about this.

Also, some people just need someone and I respect that.

Lisa!
Apr21-06, 12:52 AM
Look around yourself and I'm sure you can find plenty of people who're feeling lonely just like you, so why not joing each other? :smile:

bomba923
Apr21-06, 01:15 AM
I am 45 now, single...

I married when I was doing my Phd in mathematics (dissertation: set theory in computer science) (26 years old). I just couldn't stand people's looks over my personality.
I like a lot of things, and have many dreams.

Before formally getting married, my g/f got pregnant and right in the year we became husband and wife, she gave me a baby girl (Tina)

Years after that, we dirvorced and I was allowed to keep the kid. Tina is now 20, a young beautiful girl studying in a big college far away from me.

I am so lonely...that's something I want to tell you.

Just out of curiousity,
What is your MBTI type? INTP, I presume?
http://www.step-up-to-success.org/Personality_test.html[url]

Here is a page on MTBI and relationship help:
[url]http://www.personalitypage.com/relationships.html

cronxeh
Apr21-06, 02:05 AM
I am 45 now, single...

I married when I was doing my Phd in mathematics (dissertation: set theory in computer science) (26 years old). I just couldn't stand people's looks over my personality.
I like a lot of things, and have many dreams.

Before formally getting married, my g/f got pregnant and right in the year we became husband and wife, she gave me a baby girl (Tina)

Years after that, we dirvorced and I was allowed to keep the kid. Tina is now 20, a young beautiful girl studying in a big college far away from me.. I am so lonely...that's something I want to tell you.

Well you are at that point in your life where you've already reached the intellectual and the spiritual, have a 20 year old daughter who is in school and so perhaps what you need now is enjoy simpler things in life again.. just like back at 18 - find a woman, pour a glass of wine and kick back in your recliner looking at the sunset together. Some details, details, and umm... or you could smoke a doobie listen to some old records maybe make your own music or finish one of those Millenium Problems in Math. :biggrin:

i just dont think any of this interests you.. in that case i got no answers for you man - im 21 and in the same exact state of mind as you
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wolram
Apr21-06, 03:08 AM
Go out and buy an vintage motorcycle, you can polish and hone it better than any human, and it rewards you with starting first kick, what female
does that ? and people will come out and say ohh my grandpap had one
of those, and you make loadsa friends, so you can not be lonely.

J77
Apr21-06, 03:37 AM
...or a flash sports car.

Time for that mid-lifer :smile:

Drimar
Apr21-06, 05:20 AM
Thanks everyone for making me happy..

I am glad you guys join the thread, I have a lot of friends around now, no more loneliness.

Hey, anyone can guess how many people there are with me ?

Hint: The number must start from zero. :wink:

Mk
Apr21-06, 07:09 AM
e to the i pi'th?

honestrosewater
Apr22-06, 01:28 AM
Go out and buy an vintage motorcycle, you can polish and hone it better than any human, and it rewards you with starting first kick, what female
does that ?Kick me and you'll find out.

Sisyphus
Apr22-06, 01:36 AM
women.....:frown:

honestrosewater
Apr22-06, 01:42 AM
women.....:frown:What's the prob, Bob?

wolram
Apr22-06, 01:43 AM
Kick me and you'll find out.

:blushing: i think i worded that all wrong, sorry females.

honestrosewater
Apr22-06, 01:45 AM
:blushing: i think i worded that all wrong, sorry females.:frown: Where am I gonna get my kicks then? Route 66?

wolram
Apr22-06, 02:26 AM
:frown: Where am I gonna get my kicks then? Route 66?

:mad: I get so confuddled these days, i thought i was getting a rollicking,
no need to go via 66, i could take you to bobs cafe on my velo.

Mk
Apr22-06, 02:32 AM
:frown: Where am I gonna get my kicks then? Route 66?
[country voice]Route sixtah-six doo doo doo doo— doo doo doo doo, doo doo doo, doo doo doo doo— doo doo doo doo, doo doo doo![/country music voice]

honestrosewater
Apr22-06, 03:21 AM
:rofl: There's too much confusion. I can't get no relief.

wolram
Apr22-06, 03:55 AM
:rofl: There's too much confusion. I can't get no relief.
Aww, no worries babs, cmer and i will give you a shoulder massage. :smile:

Evo
Apr22-06, 11:50 AM
:rofl: There's too much confusion. I can't get no relief.I can't get no satisfaction.

Astronuc
Apr22-06, 12:59 PM
:rofl: There's too much confusion. I can't get no relief. "No reason to get excited, . . ."

"Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl,
Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl."

However,

"If you try sometimes,
well you just might find,
you get what you need!"

p.s. Jimi's version of All Along the Watchtower is the best and always will be - and even Bob Dylan agrees.

heartless
Apr22-06, 01:18 PM
I am 45 now, single...

I married when I was doing my Phd in mathematics (dissertation: set theory in computer science) (26 years old). I just couldn't stand people's looks over my personality.
I like a lot of things, and have many dreams.

Before formally getting married, my g/f got pregnant and right in the year we became husband and wife, she gave me a baby girl (Tina)

Years after that, we dirvorced and I was allowed to keep the kid. Tina is now 20, a young beautiful girl studying in a big college far away from me.

I am so lonely...that's something I want to tell you.

Hey, not everything is lost. Look at the nearby corner, maybe there's a woman of your life? I'm sure you'll find her. ~80-45=35 You have so much to find your bride.

Anyway, I was always wondering, why people get married if they love each other?

honestrosewater
Apr22-06, 09:16 PM
p.s. Jimi's version of All Along the Watchtower is the best and always will be - and even Bob Dylan agrees.Yeah, that's the one I was listening to. I like Dylan's JWH version too -- love the harmonica in it. :cool:

Astronuc
Apr22-06, 09:32 PM
Anyway, I was always wondering, why people get married if they love each other? Because they love each other. :rolleyes: Presumably, couple marries with the intention of staying together for a long time - in my case, until one us dies. Marriage is supposed to be a lifetime 'commitment' - a commitment to take care of each other.

heartless
Apr22-06, 10:18 PM
Because they love each other. :rolleyes: Presumably, couple marries with the intention of staying together for a long time - in my case, until one us dies. Marriage is supposed to be a lifetime 'commitment' - a commitment to take care of each other.

You can love, care and have children even if you're not married. Can't you?
I actually asked this question because I don't understand the concept of marriage. People tend to part more while being married than not. For me, being married is similar to: everything you wanted to gain in your relationship is gained. You aren't able to win any more since you already won the highest possible prize. I think it's damn stupid to marry and do all this chaos to then simply part with the reason you don't feel love to another person anymore. Such love was never true. It was a stupid false love. But the truth is, it was a true love. People often part because their love extincted, it happens because majority of people think that the highest possible love was during the day of marriage and before and it cannot be so high anymore. It goes down. It would be better to keep up the love to the end.

There is one more thing, why can't we love all people? Why do we love just one person? Why can't I love and care for tens of women (practically impossible :biggrin: ) Why people loving the same gender are repulsed from the society? It's still love. They love each other. Some people just don't understand. I'd like to love everyone the same. No matter of appearance, gender, age, and anything, there's just something that disallows me to do that.

After all, I know nothing about it, as I've never experienced nor love, nor marriage nor adulthood.

Thanks,

Astronuc
Apr22-06, 10:37 PM
You can love, care and have children even if you're not married. Can't you? It is possible to love someone, and have children, but not be married. On the other hand, given the time that it takes children to mature, one might as well be married. I fully expect to stay married well after the children leave - then I have looking forward to being a grandfather and perhaps a greatgrandfather. :biggrin:

People tend to part more while being married than not. I don't understand this comment.
For me, being married is similar to: everything you wanted to gain in your relationship is gained. You aren't able to win any more since you already won the highest possible prize. I think it's damn stupid to marry and do all this chaos to then simply part with the reason you don't feel love to another person anymore. Such love was never true. It was a stupid false love. But the truth is, it was a true love. People often part because their love extincted, it happens because majority of people think that the highest possible love was during the day of marriage and before and it cannot be so high anymore. It goes down. It would be better to keep up the love to the end. One can have strong feelings for another, but that is not necessarily love. In the case of a spouse (husband or wife), love goes beyond simply caring about the other. It involves really knowing the other person much deeply than anyone esle. Love between husband and wife involves sharing themselves as soulmates. It means putting the other person and the relationship first.

Joseph Campbell once said, "if you marriage doesn't come first, then you are not really married." There is a lot of truth to that.

There is one more thing, why can't we love all people? Why do we love just one person? Why can't I love and care for tens of women (practically impossible :biggrin: ) Why people loving the same gender are repulsed from the society? It's still love. They love each other. Some people just don't understand. I'd like to love everyone the same. No matter of appearance, gender, age, and anything, there's just something that disallows me to do that. In a sense, one can love all people - humanity - this is love in a platonic sense. As for caring for tens of women, that would seem rather impractical.

It is perhaps practical to love one other person (husband or wife) because that is more or less a full time job, in addition to one's profession.

heartless
Apr22-06, 10:45 PM
People tend to part more while being married than not.
I don't understand this comment.

Sorry for misunderstanding. I was trying to say that people tend to divorce more frequently while being married then not being married.

Thanks for that brief reply.

Do you love everyone?
What do you think about "improper" loving pairs?

Thanks,

Astronuc
Apr22-06, 11:00 PM
Sorry for misunderstanding. I was trying to say that people tend to divorce more frequently while being married then not being married. Well, one can only divorce if one is married, and unfortunately, about 50% of marriages fail. But then, one could simply end any relationship. It comes down to how committed one is to the other party in a relationship.

Do you love everyone? Perhaps in a platonic sense. I care about all of humanity. People like Osama bin Laden and George Bush are a challenge. I can say absolutely, that I do not hate anyone.

What do you think about "improper" loving pairs? I am usure what is meant by "improper" loving pairs.

heartless
Apr22-06, 11:21 PM
I am usure what is meant by "improper" loving pairs.

20 year old man with 90 year old woman. Man-Man, Woman-Woman.

And also, is it that children are disallowed to marry just because of immaturity? If they prove their maturity, should they be allowed to marry?

Thanks, once again.

Astronuc
Apr22-06, 11:31 PM
I think what other people do is up to them - and it is not of my concern.

I think that a 20 year old man and a 90 year old woman is problematic. As long as one is not victimizing the other, I'd stay out of it.

As for homosexual - I know several gay and lesbian couples. One of my best friends is gay, and one of my father's best friends is gay. No big deal.

As for children - I don't think children should be involved in marital or sexual relationships until they are both physically and emotionally mature. However, I am directly responsible for my children, and only indirectly responsible for other children.

Mk
Apr23-06, 12:46 AM
As for homosexual - I know several gay and lesbian couples. One of my best friends is gay, and one of my father's best friends is gay. No big deal.
I don't like gay people, they always try and grab my crotch. I thought I was the only one that did that in public, and I just grab my own.
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=85554

Mk
Apr23-06, 12:48 AM
Sorry for misunderstanding. I was trying to say that people tend to divorce more frequently while being married then not being married. You heartless creep!

Astronuc
May2-06, 10:19 AM
20 year old man with 90 year old woman.

Well, I just had to revisit this question based on:

Couple, 33 and 104, Reportedly Marry (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060502/ap_on_fe_st/unusual_couple;_ylt=AnSpLy6TnpoK.ICszWkpRpms0NUE;_ ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-)

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - A 33-year-old man in northern Malaysia has married a 104-year-old woman, saying mutual respect and friendship had turned to love, a news report said Tuesday.

It was Muhamad Noor Che Musa's first marriage and his wife's 21st, according to The Star newspaper which cited a report in the Malay-language Harian Metro tabloid.

Muhamad, an ex-army serviceman said he found peace and a sense of belonging after meeting Wook Kundor, whom he said he initially sympathized with because she was childless, old and alone, the report said. :bugeye: I'm speechless. Well, except to say, "I hope the couple is very happy." :smile: :uhh: