Group theory in GR and quantum gravity

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The discussion centers on the complexities of group theory in General Relativity (GR) and quantum gravity, specifically addressing the gauge group for gravity, which is not definitively identified as GL(4) or its subgroups. Participants explore the representation of Riemann curvature tensors and metric tensors through abstract groups, and the equivalent of the Lorentz group in GR. The conversation also touches on the challenges of developing the Hamiltonian formalism for classical gravity, referencing key works by Dirac and the ADM formalism as potential resources for further understanding.

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  • Understanding of General Relativity (GR) and its mathematical framework.
  • Familiarity with gauge theory concepts and their applications in physics.
  • Knowledge of Riemannian geometry and curvature tensors.
  • Basic grasp of Hamiltonian mechanics and its formulation in classical physics.
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  • Research the ADM formalism (Arnowitt, Deser, & Misner) for insights into Hamiltonian mechanics in GR.
  • Study Dirac's works on the Hamiltonian theory of gravitation for foundational concepts.
  • Explore the role of the conformal group and conformal invariance in theoretical physics.
  • Investigate the mathematical structure of gauge groups in the context of quantum gravity.
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The discussion is beneficial for theoretical physicists, mathematicians specializing in geometry, and advanced students of General Relativity and quantum gravity seeking to deepen their understanding of group theory applications in these fields.

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In trying to get my head round GR and quantum gravity, I'm puzzled about the following questions:

Is the gauge group for gravity defined as the set of all possible Weyl tensors on a general 4D Riemann manifold? Which abstract group maps onto this set? Is it GL(4) or a subgroup of GL(4)? How do you derive the number of gravitational force bosons from the gauge group structure?

Which abstract groups represent all possible Riemann curvature tensors, and all possible metric tensors?

What is the equivalent of the Lorentz group for GR?
I.e. the group of transformations between all possible reference frames.

How is all of this connected with the conformal group? What is the purpose of conformal invariance?
 
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...if you thought those questions were too difficult,lemme ask you,guys,something easier to answer.
Classical gravity,described by Hilbert-Einstein action,is the only gauge theory for which i can't develop(and that's because i don't know)the Hamiltonian formalism at a classical level.
Will someone be so kind to give me any ideas??
 
Originally posted by dextercioby
...if you thought those questions were too difficult,lemme ask you,guys,something easier to answer.
Classical gravity,described by Hilbert-Einstein action,is the only gauge theory for which i can't develop(and that's because i don't know)the Hamiltonian formalism at a classical level.
Will someone be so kind to give me any ideas??

In order to do Hamiltonian mechanics in GR you have to split time from space, which means you are not even Lorentz covariant, let alone generally covariant. Nevertheless there are efforts to do this. MTW references two works by Dirac:

"Fixation of coordinates in the Hamiltonian theory of Gravitation" Phys Rev 114, 924-930 (and citations therein)

Lectures on Quantum Mechanics, Belfer Graduate School of Science Monograph Series Number two, Yeshiva University, New York, 1964 (and citations)

In spite of the title, the latter book apparently has a description of Dirac's Hamiltonian theory of Gravitation.

You might also google on the ADM formalism (Arnowitt, Deser, & Misner).
 
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