Creation Science Fair

[Another God]

This brings a tear to the eye....

http://www.objective.jesussave.us/creationsciencefair.html

Containing such brilliant leaps of logic as:

"The jar was left undisturbed, being exposed only to sunlight, for three weeks. No life evolved. This shows that life cannot come from non-life through natural processes."
and in the "Women Were Designed For Homemaking" stand:
"social sciences show that the wages for women workers are lower than for normal workers, meaning that they are unable to work as well and thus earn equal pay"

...OK, this is truly terrible. Jesus, save us from your followers....

[Monique]

[8)] (Patricia also prayed to God not to do anything miraculous during the course of the experiment, so as not to disqualify the findings.) I'd like to conduct some scientific research on the lenght of these people noses, they don't look further than it is long..

[Monique]

IAN! IAN !!
I've got an experiment for you:

Eileen Hyde and Lynda Morgan (grades 10 & 11) did a project showing how the power of prayer can unlock the latent genes in bacteria, allowing them to microevolve antibiotic resistance. Escherichia coli bacteria cultured in agar filled petri dishes were subjected to the antibiotics tetracycline and chlorotetracycline. The bacteria cultures were divided into two groups, one group (A) received prayer while the other (B) didn't. The prayer was as follows: "Dear Lord, please allow the bacteria in Group A to unlock the antibiotic-resistant genes that You saw fit to give them at the time of Creation. Amen." The process was repeated for five generations, with the prayer being given at the start of each generation. In the end, Group A was significantly more resistant than Group B to both antibiotics.

[Another God]

This website is amazing

Make sure you all check out Dawkins Watch (http://www.objective.jesussave.us/dawkinswatch.html) , a page dedicated to commenting on everything Richard Dawkins has done and is doing. Quite amusing.

and in the Evolutionism Propoganda page, linked to from the top of the 'Those Wacky Evolutionists' page you can find this snippet: "the truth has finally come out: Apple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism"

*shudders*

[Another God]

Dinosaur Expedition (http://www.objective.jesussave.us/dinoexpedition.html)

This page contains PHOToGRAPHIC evidence of the existence of Dinosaurs!!!!!!!!

"The superstitious porters became fearful, thinking that the Mokele-Mbembe had come to steal their souls or something of the like. My team and I, however, knew quite well that the Apatosaurus is a harmless herbivore and that it posed no physical danger (and certainly none to our souls, which we have entrusted to Christ)."

[recon]

1st Place: "My Uncle Is A Man Named Steve (Not A Monkey)"
Cassidy Turnbull (grade 5) presented her uncle, Steve. She also showed photographs of monkeys and invited fairgoers to note the differences between her uncle and the monkeys. She tried to feed her uncle bananas, but he declined to eat them. Cassidy has conclusively shown that her uncle is no monkey.


ROFLMAO!

I love bananas. Perhaps I belong in the zoo?

[iansmith]

Wow. I did know God could creates antibiotic resistant bacteria. It must be what transformed my bacteria and not the plasmid. [:D]

It is too bad we do not see the data and the materials and method because we could just prove that the evolution migth exist.

I would like to read this experiment

"Pokemon Prove Evolutionism Is False" - Paul Sanborn (grade 4)

[Phobos]

Originally posted by Another God
"The jar was left undisturbed, being exposed only to sunlight, for three weeks. No life evolved. This shows that life cannot come from non-life through natural processes."

And that was a first place winner! [*(]

and people wonder why I don't want creationism taught in science classrooms.

[Phobos]

Originally posted by iansmith
"Pokemon Prove Evolutionism Is False" - Paul Sanborn (grade 4)

What? The theory doesn't say that a creature will evolve in a flash of light right before your eyes?
(Actually, I'm curious to read this one too!)

[Monique]

Originally posted by iansmith
Wow. I did know God could creates antibiotic resistant bacteria. It must be what transformed my bacteria and not the plasmid. [:D] If I very kindly ask to replace the intended insert into my plasmid, instead of the funky unidentified piece that is in it now.. would it work?

[chroot]

Guys... it's a joke.

- Warren

[Another God]

It's a Joke? It's a very elaborate, well developed joke made to look incredibly real with a whole host of names and events included...

Admittedly though, when reading things like the following quote, it is hard think it isn't a joke... Is this really what fundamentalist christians concern themselves over?

"There have been some questions as of late on why we moved our web-site. As stated, it was due to our previous host's lack of strong condemnation of triclavianism. I would like to clarify this situation as I think it illustrates an overlooked heresy in today's Church.

Triclavianists hold that three, and only three, nails were used to affix our Lord Jesus Christ to the cross. While it might be true that three nails were used -- and, in fact, archeological evidences uncovered by Biblical researchers positively point to this conclusion -- it is erroneous, and theologically dangerous, to make this a doctrinal position. The Bible does not enumerate the Lord's nails and any extra-Biblical research on the subject -- while both interesting and useful for apologetic purposes when dealing with those afflicted with a Secular world view that denies even the historicity of our Lord's passion and crucifixion -- cannot be considered of any substantive import to the Faith."

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by chroot
Guys... it's a joke.

- Warren I don't think so, Warren.

You don't know too many Baptists, do you? I had a Baptist girlfriend in high school and took a bunch of my friends to her church's "haunted house" at Halloween. It was a bunch of scenes acting out Revelations, complete with a judgemental God who knew our names and told us we would go to hell if we didn't "invite Jesus into our hearts." They were visibly disturbed to meet my best friend, a non-practicing Jew, as clearly he is hopelessly doomed to burn in hell. I smiled politely and waited until I left before tossing the pamphlets they gave me in the trash.

[chroot]

Originally posted by russ_watters
I don't think so, Warren.
No, it really is. I've seen it circulated around the internet from the beginning, and even the people who originally posted it (on talk.orgins) eventually admitted it was fake. The titles on the projects are photoshopped in. Trust me, it's fake.

- Warren

[Another God]

Really?

Wow. Someone has way too much time on their hands...

But they seem to be still keeping it up. I don't get that part of it. They are still writing articles and still documenting the life of Richard Dawkins.... that doesn't seem like a joke.

Besides, apart from the over the top nature of it, it is very realistic for creationists. They really do often phrase their arguments like that (ie: Non-sequitors)

[chroot]

Most of the site hasn't changed in more than two or three years. I know I saw the creationist science fair page as many as four years ago.

It's a well-done hoax, but gimmie a break guys... look at it for long enough, and you can tell it's not real.

Check out Habu's Corner on http://www.objective.jesussave.us/kidz.html

- Warren

[Phobos]

Yikes. What a bad idea. If it's a joke (and it does seem like it from that kids page) then it's just throwing fuel on the fire. Unfair play. More atheist lies and immorality. That's it...I'm joining ICR. [b(]

[chroot]

Right... on the one hand, it's just as unfair of the athiest community to actively make fun of the creationist community as vice versa.

On the other hand, I rarely see athiests attacking creationists, but I regularly see creationists attacking athiests -- particularly because their belief system teaches intolerance of other beliefs. Athiests are already quite aware that their beliefs are not shared by everyone -- and further, they usually understand that beliefs are a personal matter, and that there's no glory in belittling someone else's beliefs.

I think this parody was written in the spirit of showing creationists what it's like to have strawman versions of their beliefs erected and knocked down in public view -- a tactic used perpetually by creationists.

- Warren

[FZ+]

It would have been more funny, if such things are not seriously distributed elsewhere:

http://www.creationevidence.org/scientific_evid/evidencefor/evidencefor.html
2. Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field... Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years.

4. Population Statistics...World population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9 The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.

This is scary:
http://www.creationevidence.org/fun_for_kids/fun_for_kids.html
Evolution teaches that everything in the whole universe was once packed really tightly together, so it was the size of an electron.

This is an atom, with electrons rotating around the center

That's smaller than the tip of a pin.
Er... hmm.[o)]

[chroot]

Holy... crap........

How anyone who claims to have morals can **** with the minds of ignorant children like this is beyond me. The people that write websites like this are clearly aware that they are misrepresenting the truth. They know they are lying to children to promote their religion.

Of course, it's all for God's glory, so it's okay to lie to children. Right, Jesus?

- Warren

[Another God]

ROFLMAO!

"Hey, I don't want to be related to a monkey!"
"Me Either"

Damn that is a convincing argument. I'm going to have to give up my belief in evolution now. Sorry guys....but you can't argue with pure logic like that!!


PS: "Lies make baby jesus cry..." - Rod and/or Todd Flanders.

[London Kngiths]

I wish it was a joke, but I have experienced some of these people. One of my favourite arguments is the one where a student argued that Evolution shouldn't be taught (in public schools) because the textbooks are accounting lies. When asked why the textbooks were lies, they replied, because The Bible says so. Yep gotta love that book that is all about the word of God but it has been edited by common men.

[Phobos]

Originally posted by chroot
I think this parody was written in the spirit of showing creationists what it's like to have strawman versions of their beliefs erected and knocked down in public view -- a tactic used perpetually by creationists.


Good point. I can breathe easy again.

[London Kngiths]

Man and animals do have many things in common, two eyes, two ears, and the way we breathe for example. But if you compare DNA, the instructions inside our body that tell us how to look, of monkeys and men, there are some big differences. For the DNA of a monkey to accidentally change to the DNA of a man would be like saying I accidentally jumped over the Grand Canyon.

That is absolute gold. I love how everything is an accident. Pardon the roughness of the following comment. But if God doesn't do things by accident, but God made us, then does that mean that "accident" babies aren't God's children?

[FZ+]

I was more intrigued by the insertion of "grand canyon" out of nowhere. I am rather confused as to how jumping a great distance can be compared to genetic mutations... Perhaps trying to jump over the grand canyon is something that is very familiar to the site's authors?

You can, if you BELIEVE you can! - Natural selection at work.

[enigma]

Luckily, that site is a joke.

Unfortunately, there are many others just like it which are not.

Case in point is that noone thought it was a joke to start off with. Creationism is dangerous. Their recent attacks on sanity in Ohio, Georgia, and other school systems cause me to weep for America.

[London Kngiths]

Originally posted by FZ+
I was more intrigued by the insertion of "grand canyon" out of nowhere. I am rather confused as to how jumping a great distance can be compared to genetic mutations... Perhaps trying to jump over the grand canyon is something that is very familiar to the site's authors?

You can, if you BELIEVE you can! - Natural selection at work.

I prefered one of the other ones that tried to disprove how the Earth was formed. It made the argument that canyon's can be formed really fast, like the one from Mt. Saint Helen's. Unfortunately no canyon was formed when the volcano erupted. There was a lake pool, I believe, that was already in place and that is the closest thing to a canyon formed, but seeing as it was already there...

[Phobos]

Originally posted by London Kngiths
I prefered one of the other ones that tried to disprove how the Earth was formed. It made the argument that canyon's can be formed really fast, like the one from Mt. Saint Helen's. Unfortunately no canyon was formed when the volcano erupted. There was a lake pool, I believe, that was already in place and that is the closest thing to a canyon formed, but seeing as it was already there...

And even more problematic for Creationists' "catastrophic event" explanation is that a sudden event like a flood would not result in the layering of fossils that shows evolution through time...a layering that matches other places in the world.