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Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 10:59 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/aiken91919/1.jpg
I just need help with part 3, if anyone can help me, i don't really know what to do
2. Relevant equations
F=k(q1)(q2)/r^2
3. The attempt at a solution
giritrobbins
Mar26-07, 11:14 AM
It is simple Newtonian Gravitation.
F=G(mp)^2/r^2
mp=mass of a proton
G=Universal graviational constant
mp is squared because it is two protons, otherwise it would be m1 and m2
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 11:16 AM
G is constant, but i am unsure of how to get mp
giritrobbins
Mar26-07, 11:18 AM
The mass of a proton is constant. It should be locatable in any physics book or going to google and typing mass of a proton
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 11:23 AM
Okay, i got: 16726E-27^2 * G / .0071^2
= 3.6627E-52
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 11:29 AM
i submitted it but got it wrong, but i have a few more tries to get it right, what did i do wrong?
hage567
Mar26-07, 11:34 AM
That’s 1.6726x10^-27 kg for the mass of a proton, right? It looks like you were missing the decimal in there.
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 11:36 AM
now i got 3.66e-60
hage567
Mar26-07, 11:39 AM
Did it work? It should.
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 11:40 AM
it says it is wrong, not sure why though, i double checked. it seems like it should be right
hage567
Mar26-07, 11:48 AM
Well, I get 3.70x10^-60 N, so maybe it is a rounding issue? I don't know how picky web programs are about that kind of thing. I can't see why the answer would be wrong.
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 11:50 AM
i have 1 guess left, i will try 3.70x10^-60 N
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 11:51 AM
hmm maybe not, one of my previous guesses was 3.69e-60, that probably should have been correct
hage567
Mar26-07, 11:58 AM
Sorry, I just am not able to see what could be wrong with that calculation.
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 12:00 PM
thank you for all of your help
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 12:19 PM
i got it incorrect, but the answer was 3.811e-60
have no idea how they got that, ill have to check with my teacher because i still think the other answer is correct, maybe it is a mistake
hage567
Mar26-07, 12:37 PM
A different value for the proton mass was probably used. If I work it out backwards I get 1.697x10^-27 kg for the mass. Not the right one as far as I'm concerned.
Aikenfan
Mar26-07, 12:41 PM
i think i will ask my teacher, maybe she will give it to me
thank you very much for all of the help!
neutrino
Mar26-07, 12:58 PM
It may be, just may be, that the program assumes the value of the proton mass to be 1.67e-27 - just to two decimal places.
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