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OK, PrudensOptimus, it has been a couple of months now. I'm curious as to how things are going. Did you ever make a date? Find another girl? Or, are you still where you were?
I think some other guys out there shared their problems. I think it's time for a little update.
jimmy p
Mar30-04, 03:28 PM
yeah Prudens, spill some proverbial beans!! Haha, just to share a slice of my life, I am still single but i am interested in a girl. However i cant read people at all so i dont know if she likes me or not.
yeah Prudens, spill some proverbial beans!! Haha, just to share a slice of my life, I am still single but i am interested in a girl. However i cant read people at all so i dont know if she likes me or not.
Same situation here. Single and interested in [many] girls. I cant read people well either, but I try to make an attempt to establish some form of connection (though im not good at that either).
Imparcticle
Mar30-04, 06:19 PM
Okay guys! here's a tip or two:
- smile
- do what she likes, with your own flare to it
- be totally yourself
- don't be nervous; just relax
I haven't seen Prudens around for a while. I just checked and his last post was 3/1. I think I saw his last activity was 3/8. Maybe he got his girl and has no time for PF anymore. :biggrin:
The_Professional
Mar30-04, 08:06 PM
Okay guys! here's a tip or two:
- don't be nervous; just relax
It's okay and normal to feel nervous. Just don't say it to her! Acknowledge it inwardly
The main reason I brought this up is that when Prudens was having his trouble with the girl, I was having a bit of my own trouble. Now, just recently, I think things are going for the better.
cookiemonster
Mar30-04, 10:04 PM
Okay guys! here's a tip or two:
- smile
- do what she likes, with your own flare to it
- be totally yourself
- don't be nervous; just relax
That still doesn't help with the whole "picking one to pursue" part.
cookiemonster
That still doesn't help with the whole "picking one to pursue" part.
cookiemonster
Are your pheromone receptors DEAD?? :eek: :frown:
hitssquad
Mar30-04, 11:03 PM
Okay guys! here's a tip or two:
- smileBut I don't like to smile.
- do what she likesBut what if she likes to frown?
- be totally yourselfBut you said to smile.
- don't be nervous; just relaxI can't relax; you said to smile.
cookiemonster
Mar30-04, 11:04 PM
Are your pheromone receptors DEAD?? :eek: :frown:
Not dead, just mildly overwhelmed.
cookiemonster
Not dead, just mildly overwhelmed.
cookiemonster
By WHAT! :eek:
Hitsquad, maybe you should just go the movies by yourself. :wink:
cookiemonster
Mar30-04, 11:14 PM
By... What do you think?
cookiemonster
Hi guys, how are you?
My apologies for barging into a all-male conversation, hope you don't mind. I just thought maybe you could use a little trojan horse to the heart of that special lady you have in mind.
First of all I have to say NOOOOOOOO to that all the wrong tips about acting "cool". The first thing you want a woman to know is HOW SPECIAL SHE IS TO YOU. If you play cool, she could just take you as being indifferent (which is a big turn-off) or inscrutable (which is also a big turn-off). So sweating, stammering and other traits of nervousness are all alright, I dare say if she likes you, she will find you all the more cute because of/notwithstanding/inspite of those traits.
I will be happy to answer any other questions you might have in mind :wink:
Cheers,
Polly
The_Professional
Mar31-04, 01:24 AM
It's okay and normal to feel nervous. Just don't say it to her! Acknowledge it inwardly
Like I've said, It's okay to feel nervous but you don't say it. Why bring it up, It's a NEGATIVE. She knows that you are nervous no need to keep bringing it up. Gut it out if you will.
If you want to put the kibosh on any possible romance then go ahead, tell her how nervous she makes you feel and how you're intimidated by her. And Congratulations, because you just made another friend..
cookiemonster
Mar31-04, 01:52 AM
What about the people that are intimidated by you?
cookiemonster
Without disagreeing with you of course, I'd say it depends on the context. But if a guy says something nice like "you have this magic that every time I come near you l lose myself/my breath", as a woman I find that quite flattering. I think guys generally put too much emphasis on knowing what to do, young people are supposed to be at a loss on very many things. It is okay. The danger to watch out for though is that we are not too zeroed into knowing what to do that we forget to respect the lady's preference or wishes. Like I said, a woman NEEDS to feel special to be inspired by love (if she is not in love with you already) :smile: .
What about the people that are intimidated by you?
cookiemonster
The most logical thing to do needless to say, is to find out why. You have to fill me in more before I can tell you any thing.
cookiemonster
Mar31-04, 01:58 AM
Some kind of goofy subconscious fear of "he'll laugh at me if I act stupid" or "he'll laugh at me because I'm stupid," that kind of thing.
cookiemonster
Some kind of goofy subconscious fear of "he'll laugh at me if I act stupid" or "he'll laugh at me because I'm stupid," that kind of thing.
Sounds like she is quite smitten by you herself. If this is the case, then simply put her at ease, by being in her proximity, talking to mutual friends (who will eventually (be made to) tell her things about you), in short - BE PATIENT. I have heard of this very very good saying which I will tell you now even though I feel I am betraying my gender. Here it goes - a gentleman is a very patient wolf. Be a gentleman.
cookiemonster
Mar31-04, 02:13 AM
Haha. I've been patient for four years. ;) I've pretty much given up for a while.
It seems to be a pretty general phenomenon, anyway. Which is kinda odd, since most people that actually get to know me say I'm not threatening at all.
Wolf? I don't think I could be a wolf, not even if I wanted to.
cookiemonster
It seems to be a pretty general phenomenon, anyway. Which is kinda odd, since most people that actually get to know me say I'm not threatening at all.
Then the problem could go deeper than you think. Would it be possible to find out what she thinks about you from a mutual friend?
cookiemonster
Mar31-04, 02:24 AM
Nah, there's no-one in particular to whom I'm referring. Never really has been. I wouldn't start a relationship right now, even if there were. I'm just leaving in 2-5 months, and nobody can follow me, anyway.
cookiemonster
Plenty of fish in the pond. Sometimes it takes time for a girl to acquire good taste in men as well. Keep me posted about your "amorous moves" I sure want you to win. :wink:
cookiemonster
Mar31-04, 02:35 AM
Guess you'll have to hang around here more to hear about that!
cookiemonster
I will, because I am a gentlewoman :biggrin:
cookiemonster
Mar31-04, 02:38 AM
Going to throw us a definition of that, too?
cookiemonster
Let us leave it to our imagination.
Hi guys, how are you?
My apologies for barging into a all-male conversation, hope you don't mind.
*clears throat* EXCUSE me???!!! :biggrin: I'd say the look on my {avatar} face is pure ESTROGEN!!! Wouldn't you? :wink:
rick1138
Mar31-04, 11:04 AM
First of all I have to say NOOOOOOOO to that all the wrong tips about acting "cool". The first thing you want a woman to know is HOW SPECIAL SHE IS TO YOU. If you play cool, she could just take you as being indifferent (which is a big turn-off) or inscrutable (which is also a big turn-off). So sweating, stammering and other traits of nervousness are all alright, I dare say if she likes you, she will find you all the more cute because of/notwithstanding/inspite of those traits.
Hey I'm glad you said that, because I made a huge fool in front of someone I am crazy about. She came by to say hello to me me at the bookstore I work in unexpectedly - she lives in another town and I hadn't seen her in a few months. Someone told me she was in the store so I became so excited that I threw my coffee mug and smashed it to bits on the floor - then I turned around and she was watching the whole thing. We had a great conversation.
Like I've said, It's okay to feel nervous but you don't say it. Why bring it up, It's a NEGATIVE. She knows that you are nervous no need to keep bringing it up. Gut it out if you will.
If you want to put the kibosh on any possible romance then go ahead, tell her how nervous she makes you feel and how you're intimidated by her. And Congratulations, because you just made another friend..I agree. If a guy acts nervous around me, that's cute, him going into detail about it might be awkward.
Guys, let me give you a tip. Girls are as insecure and nervous as you are, well except for the brain dead barbies, so don't go after them. You would not believe the lengths girls go to trying to get a guy's attention.
One thing I've noticed here on PF is that guys seem to be going after girls that aren't giving them any signals that they are interested. If a girl likes you, you will notice her glancing at you, smiling at you and then looking away quickly, she might go out of her way to "walk" by you. Remember though, she's probably just as shy as you are about making the first move.
I hate to say it, but if she doesn't appear to be interested, she probably isn't.
When I was younger if I was talking to a guy I liked and I could tell he liked me, but wasn't asking me out, I'd just say "so where are we going Friday night?". That way, if he wasn't interested, I could always laugh it off as a joke, but it always worked. :smile:
Monique
Mar31-04, 01:29 PM
I hate to say it, but if she doesn't appear to be interested, she probably isn't.
Depending on whether she noticed you or knows the kind of things you are interested in..
It is true though, nervous guys are cute :wink: :redface:
Depending on whether she noticed you or knows the kind of things you are interested in..True, I was thinking more of after the guy has made several failed attempts to get the girl's interest.
Usually if a guy keeps hounding me and I'm not interested, it just gets annoying. I hate hurting people's feelings, so I won't tell them to bug off, I just keep hoping they'll get tired of trying. Unfortuantely some guys assume I'm playing hard to get and try even harder. :frown:
Sorry about my previous post, everyone. It seems that things are going for the worse instead for the better. Since it is probably for the weak of heart, I won't go into the details as to what happend.
cookiemonster
Mar31-04, 02:06 PM
Geez, I can barely keep my eyes open during class. And now I have to look for signals at the same time? You ladies are slavedrivers!
cookiemonster
Monique
Mar31-04, 02:10 PM
Either you are interested or you are not :rolleyes:
jimmy p
Mar31-04, 05:02 PM
GAR women are CRAZY to understand!!! The girl i currently like drives me nuts because i cant understand what is going on (as said before, i cant read women). She is very casual around me, but we do arrange to meet up often, and the last time we got drunk we kissed... it's just the VERY CASUAL bit that throws me, like she isnt interested or anything.
Anyway, whats this about signals? We are MEN. We dont pick up hints or signals, you have to tell it to us straight otherwise we (or I) just go on oblivious!
I like what Monique said...nervous guys are cute. How nervous though?? The last time i was with a girl (the aforementioned one) i was shaking so much, before and WHILE i was drinking...now that is nervous!!
As to Evo's problem of annoying guys. If you cant tell them to buzz off, say it with mace... spray em in the eyes and they will get the picture!!
GAR women are CRAZY to understand!!! The girl i currently like drives me nuts because i cant understand what is going on (as said before, i cant read women). She is very casual around me, but we do arrange to meet up often, and the last time we got drunk we kissed... it's just the VERY CASUAL bit that throws me, like she isnt interested or anything.Obviously she is interested, but that *is* a toughie. Hmmm.
Anyway, whats this about signals? We are MEN. We dont pick up hints or signals, you have to tell it to us straight otherwise we (or I) just go on oblivious!True. Or men get the signals backwards. Maybe we could invent a dating stun gun. If a girl likes you she shoots you, leaves no doubt about her intentions. :tongue:
I like what Monique said...nervous guys are cute. How nervous though??I think Rick1138's smashing his coffee cup is adorable.
I like it when the brother/sister or best friend of a guy that wants to meet me, but is too scared, comes over and tells me. That's adorable.
cookiemonster
Mar31-04, 07:05 PM
Nice. I think I'm getting the hang of this. All I have to do is act like a fool, right?
cookiemonster
Geez, I can barely keep my eyes open during class. And now I have to look for signals at the same time? You ladies are slavedrivers!
Understanding, trust and reliance between both parties are accumulated in the course of courtship.
Our courage, tenacity, intelligence, wit, ingenuity, devotion, magnanimity and strength of character are all put to the test, our senses are keenly sharpened and our soul bared naked.
In the course man become more of a man and woman realizes her feminity. It is a discovery of ourselves.
It is also a warfare, but the most beautiful warfare. It is a warfare that, ideally, both will emerge as slaves and both will emerge as masters.
Guys, let me give you a tip. Girls are as insecure and nervous as you are, well except for the brain dead barbies, so don't go after them. You would not believe the lengths girls go to trying to get a guy's attention.
One thing I've noticed here on PF is that guys seem to be going after girls that aren't giving them any signals that they are interested. If a girl likes you, you will notice her glancing at you, smiling at you and then looking away quickly, she might go out of her way to "walk" by you. Remember though, she's probably just as shy as you are about making the first move.
I hate to say it, but if she doesn't appear to be interested, she probably isn't.
When I was younger if I was talking to a guy I liked and I could tell he liked me, but wasn't asking me out, I'd just say "so where are we going Friday night?". That way, if he wasn't interested, I could always laugh it off as a joke, but it always worked. :smile:
Very good advice.
True. Or men get the signals backwards. Maybe we could invent a dating stun gun. If a girl likes you she shoots you, leaves no doubt about her intentions.
I like that idea. It will definitely save us guys a lot of hassle and confusion.
Isn't courtship then reduced to plain mating? Few of us will like the idea of being reduced to bulls and cows me thinks.
Just think of it as a history lesson, you're experiencing what our ape-like forefathers did in-between eating and sleeping. Just in a more high-tech way.
I'm afraid that I'll just get zapped whenever I'm not sufficiently romantic. :frown:
What happened when our foremothers turned their noses up at our forefathers? This problem is as old as history itself.
One thing I've noticed here on PF is that guys seem to be going after girls that aren't giving them any signals that they are interested. If a girl likes you, you will notice her glancing at you, smiling at you and then looking away quickly, she might go out of her way to "walk" by you. Remember though, she's probably just as shy as you are about making the first move.
I hate to say it, but if she doesn't appear to be interested, she probably isn't.
OK, Evo, how about a I give you a scenario in which I happen to have been a part of, and based on that you can tell me if she's interested or not, because I'm drawing a complete blank here. I'll try to simplify it for you, but if I miss anything that may be important feel free to tell me.
Me and this girl from work have been talking recently, and earlier she had a boyfriend. A bad boyfriend from what she and other people have told me. When we started talking she asked if I liked her and I didn't hesitate to say that I did. So, she now knows that I like her. Fast forwarding a bit, they broke up on bad terms. I figured she was free to date, until I had the idea that he was trying to get back at her. Add a week or two to that and you'll come to a couple of nights ago. I did something that would make you proud. I asked her out and she instantly said "yes". It just so happens that another guy we work with that night was asking her out and I just happend to overhear her say that she just got a new boyfriend. Now she's telling me that she might not be able to make our date. One thing I think is quite important is that, while she was with her previous boyfriend, we were talking and, for a couple of nights, she made it seem like she wanted to date me. Asking questions about us be able to work, and she questioned me when I told her that I was willing to replace him, instead of saying that I am still willing to replace him.
Sorry it's so long, but I'm completely lost here.
Chrono, what was her reason for saying that she may not be able to make the date?
Have you noticed any change in attitude?
Chrono, what was her reason for saying that she may not be able to make the date?
Have you noticed any change in attitude?
Well, her reason was pretty legitamite. She said that she may have to work in training for another job. But then, I don't see why she can't just ask for that night off.
Any change in attitude? I don't think so. It's kind of hard to tell.
Well, her reason was pretty legitamite. She said that she may have to work in training for another job. But then, I don't see why she can't just ask for that night off.If it has to do with training, she may not have the option to take off, or it could make her look like her job's not important to her. My suggestion, trust her, be understanding, but let her know that you want to see her a different night then. If she's telling the truth (which she probably is) she will appreciate how considerate and understanding you are. You'll get a gold star.
Any change in attitude? I don't think so. It's kind of hard to tell.Doesn't sound like she's changed her mind at this point.
It is always difficult dating someone on the rebound. No telling what kind of emotional ups or downs she might experience, which are normal and nothing to do with you.
Keep me informed and I'll give you my 2 cents worth. You though have to be the ultimate judge since you are there and I can only guess.
The_Professional
Mar31-04, 10:49 PM
When she said that she has an on the job training it didn't sound to me like she made a counter-offer to you. Such as, Can we go out on Tuesday instead? We should make it another time on Monday, etc..
Like Evo mentioned, she's on a rebound so this is difficult. Continue seeing other girls as well.
If it has to do with training, she may not have the option to take off, or it could make her look like her job's not important to her. My suggestion, trust her, be understanding, but let her know that you want to see her a different night then. If she's telling the truth (which she probably is) she will appreciate how considerate and understanding you are.
I did that. Then she questioned me as to why I was so set on dating her. I think I will give it another go, anyway.
Keep me informed and I'll give you my 2 cents worth. You though have to be the ultimate judge since you are there and I can only guess.
Your two cents are worth a lot at this moment.
Call me cold blooded, but I honestly can not have any sympathy for any girl who starts seeing guys while on a rebound. It is stupid and unfair to the guy. A total waste of time. Why dragging someone into her own emotional turmoil? She is being selfish.
I did that.Did she agree to another date?
Call me cold blooded, but I honestly can not have any sympathy for any girl who starts seeing guys while on a rebound. It is stupid and unfair to the guy. A total waste of time. Why dragging someone into her own emotional turmoil? She is being selfish.I've known many girls that will not break up with a guy until they have a new one lined up. It's really sad.
Maybe in Chrono's case, it is a bad timing thing. She wasn't expecting him to come along and maybe she has concerns about dating on the rebound. Maybe this is causing her to rethink her decision to date him and why she is questioning why he wants to date her.
I don't think she would be bringing up these questions if she was just wanting to use him.
The_Professional
Mar31-04, 11:29 PM
Depending on how low a girl's interest level is on her ex-boyfriend. They usually go through a couple of Guys before they start seriously dating again.
(sigh) yes, maybe that's why we have so very many numerous problems in our society - people do not think, they just act on their impulse and emotional needs. They forget they have a brain, are capable of restraint and other people are people too. If the girl concerned does not start to put her act together, she will find more problems ahead and she becomes a problem in the lives of all those around her.
edit: typo
Evo, being there all the time will not get him a girl.
There are 2 problems with trying to have a relationship with a girl you are just infatuated with.
First, there is the question of motive.
Remember that saying would you want to join a club that would accept you as a member? Relationships are the same way. Both men and women are very self concious and most people think they are less than they really are. Noticing that somebody likes you makes you question why. What's wrong with her if her standards are low enough to want me?
Secondly, if he puts this girl on a pedestal, she will not respect him enough to want to go out with him. To understand what I mean, look at how friendships work. If you were at the top of the social ladder (one of the cool kids) and somebody who idolized you wanted to be your friend, do you think that would work? What if that person didn't care who you were, do you think you could be friends then?
Put the person you are interested in at the same level as you. If you idolize them, they will not respect you. If you look down on them, they'll think you're a jerk (which actually works against some women). If you treat them like you treat everybody else, it might just work out.
rick1138
Apr1-04, 12:05 AM
Chrono, she is a quark, there is nothing you can do about it.
The_Professional
Apr1-04, 12:07 AM
Noticing that somebody likes you makes you question why. What's wrong with her if her standards are low enough to want me?
Sounds like low self-esteem to me. If you don't think you're worthy enough then why would she think you're worthy? What would that say about her? Not good
You should give yourself plenty of approval for being the Great guy that you are. Don't sell yourself short.
Evo, being there all the time will not get him a girl.I never said that, are you sure you're reading one of my posts?
Sounds like low self-esteem to me.
Don't sell yourself short.
Exactly. Again call me mean, cold blooded and unkind, but a girl who has dated with a bad boyfriend tells a lot about herself.
The_Professional
Apr1-04, 12:16 AM
Exactly. Again call me mean, cold blooded and unkind, but a girl who has dated with a bad boyfriend tells a lot about herself.
Mean, cold blooded and unkind :biggrin:
My previous post was referring to the situation where a Guy puts himself down with the girl
Exactly. Again call me mean, cold blooded and unkind, but a girl who has dated with a bad boyfriend tells a lot about herself.You're being realistic and honest. What you said earlier about people not looking beyond their own needs and not caring about what they're doing to others is unfortunately all too true.
The_Professional
Apr1-04, 12:23 AM
I agree .
Sounds like low self-esteem to me. If you don't think you're worthy enough then why would she think you're worthy?
It's mostly women that have low self esteem. Men are usually the opposite, they think they're attractive even though they're fat, bald, and have a hairy back. Thankfully, I'm none of those 3 :wink:. I'm still full of myself though.
Women are complicated so it's hard to tell what you're dealing with. Women who have very very low self esteem will date you because she thinks she can't do any better. Women who have a somewhat low self esteem will question why you are interested in them instead of somebody better. Women with high self esteem will just blow you off thinking she's better than you.
The best way I've seen was to be direct (through flirting) but accept no as an answer. If you flirt and she likes you, right on. If you she doesn't like you, just accept the no and act like that ship has sailed. If you keep giving signals that you are interested, you become the proverbial "dick in a glass".
She won't consider dating you as long as you're just a backup plan.
Chrono, I am really sorry I said those nasty things about the lady you fancy. My only explanation is perhaps I was too biased in your favour I forgot she is a person too and probably wants to clinch onto someone in a moment of weakness. I hope you will forgive me for being so mean and nasty and cold. Yes if you like her a lot then go for it, we are afterall all here to fumble our way through and learn (but do it in a more objective way please if possible). I am sorry my wisdom only allows me to say this much, I hope I have not done some irreparable harm already. Last of all please again forgive me for everything I said.
....wish i could get a rebound girl.... at least i wouldnt have to go through all the goddamn effort and worry as to whether i am gonna make an *** of myself or not...
Chrono, I am really sorry I said those nasty things about the lady you fancy. I hope you will forgive me for being so mean and nasty and cold. I am sorry my wisdom only allows me to say this much, I hope I have not done some irreparable harm already. Last of all please again forgive me for everything I said.
No problems. No harm was, and wouldn't have been done. I don't think you're mean, cold blooded, or unkind.
Did she agree to another date?
Nope. That's why I'm going to try again in a couple of days.
....wish i could get a rebound girl.... at least i wouldnt have to go through all the goddamn effort and worry as to whether i am gonna make an *** of myself or not...
Okay I am reformed now, I shall try to be more objective and impartial.
If you trust me, I have this to say.
Yours is a tough problem, mostly because we know very little about the background, mentality and love life of this very "casual" lady. But I don't think any woman will go around kissing a friend, albeit a good friend, just out of the blue (BTW was she very drunk at the time?). Seems to me she is toying with the idea of dating you and was experimenting it. I shall sound like an old man now, but if there is nothing you could do about problem, why don't you channel your time and energy into something more construtive? Do a course, develop a special interest, learn something, so that she will be able to look at you in a more flattering light in the future? Women like men with a goal and working towards it. It shows they are enterprising and hardworking.
No problems. No harm was, and wouldn't have been done. I don't think you're mean, cold blooded, or unkind.
Nope. That's why I'm going to try again in a couple of days.
Thank you and may all the factors combined nicely together to work in your favour.
Nope. That's why I'm going to try again in a couple of days.She really seemed to like you, from what you've said. It would be unusual for her to change her mind so quickly and before going on your date, so something is going on. It could be one of the following:
1) Her ex is trying to get back together with her, probably promising her he'll change, blah, blah, blah... She might fall for it, or at least make her hesitate from moving on. Maybe she's not over him yet, even if it was a "bad" relationship.
2) Her friends or family have told her she is moving too fast, that she needs to get over the first guy before dating again.
3) She has decided on her own that she needs to think things through more and decide what she needs to focus on right now.
I would suggest not pursuing her immediately. This will make her wonder about you. If she thinks you are smitten with her, she may really lose interest in you. Wait a couple of weeks and try to size up her situation. If you aren't paying much attention to her, she might be the one to approach you first. If she is interested in you, there is no better way to get a woman's attention than to stop paying attention to them.
I would suggest not pursuing her immediately. This will make her wonder about you. If she thinks you are smitten with her, she may really lose interest in you. Wait a couple of weeks and try to size up her situation. If you aren't paying much attention to her, she might be the one to approach you first. If she is interested in you, there is no better way to get a woman's attention than to stop paying attention to them.
So you're saying to wait a couple of weeks before I try to reschedule the date? I'm not so sure that would be best. I'm not sure if I told you, but there is someone else trying to hook up with her and I do believe he has the advantage.
The_Professional
Apr1-04, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Evo
I would suggest not pursuing her immediately. This will make her wonder about you. If she thinks you are smitten with her, she may really lose interest in you. Wait a couple of weeks and try to size up her situation. If you aren't paying much attention to her, she might be the one to approach you first. If she is interested in you, there is no better way to get a woman's attention than to stop paying attention to them.
She's passing real wisdom here, so follow it
So you're saying to wait a couple of weeks before I try to reschedule the date? I'm not so sure that would be best. I'm not sure if I told you, but there is someone else trying to hook up with her and I do believe he has the advantage.Aha, another guy trying to move in. Like I said, I'm not there and you are the best judge of what is going on. I'd say go with your instincts. You seem level headed. :smile:
P.S. Sorry, The Professional, I caved. If he waited and the other guy horned in, I'd feel guilty. Chrono, you're on your own, but keep me posted!!
The_Professional
Apr1-04, 09:40 PM
One way to eliminate the competition is by holding back. If she likes you, then while on the date with the other guy she will be thinking about you. Provided that she likes you, you got nothing to lose..
At least, in reality that's how it worked for me.
One way to eliminate the competition is by holding back. If she likes you, then while on the date with the other guy she will be thinking about you. Provided that she likes you, you got nothing to lose..
At least, in reality that's how it worked for me.So very true! I know it works on me. Something that's harder to get seems more valuable and interesting.
The_Professional
Apr1-04, 09:46 PM
You mean a guy who's a challenge
You mean a guy who's a challengeYeah, I like a bit of a challenge, it makes it more interesting.
Okay I am reformed now, I shall try to be more objective and impartial.
If you trust me, I have this to say.
Yours is a tough problem, mostly because we know very little about the background, mentality and love life of this very "casual" lady. But I don't think any woman will go around kissing a friend, albeit a good friend, just out of the blue (BTW was she very drunk at the time?). Seems to me she is toying with the idea of dating you and was experimenting it. I shall sound like an old man now, but if there is nothing you could do about problem, why don't you channel your time and energy into something more construtive? Do a course, develop a special interest, learn something, so that she will be able to look at you in a more flattering light in the future? Women like men with a goal and working towards it. It shows they are enterprising and hardworking.
Oh, i know quite a lot about this girl we have been friends on and off for about 5 years now (we see eachother now and then) and she has told me a lot about herself...
I have to admit we were both quite drunk, but im not sure how drunk she was... i remember everything but i havent asked her what she remembers about that night.
Hmmmm it's not like I'm a boring person, i do tend to have a lot of interesting (and slightly less interesting) facts...in fact people always ask me the answer to weird questions. I always have a story to tell, and i always make a lot of effort for people... unfortunately a lot of my friends/potential partners take it for granted and dont notice how much i put in for them. I suppose goalwise, im not really very sorted. It's an important decision time in my life but i have no real plans. Other than the fact that i am going to be a billionaire somehow. :biggrin:
I suppose i may as well give up on this girl thinking about it. We arranged to meet up twice this week, and i have phoned and sent messages to her asking details and stuff and she has never responded (the odd thing was that she was the one who asked if i wanted to meet up with her). *sigh* its lame. And depressing. All my friends are taken and i feel like such a loser when we go out cos i'm "captain single".
Aha, another guy trying to move in. Like I said, I'm not there and you are the best judge of what is going on. I'd say go with your instincts. You seem level headed.
P.S. Sorry, The Professional, I caved. If he waited and the other guy horned in, I'd feel guilty. Chrono, you're on your own, but keep me posted!!
I'm not as upset about it as I was a couple of days ago. I think I have a plan. I will try and reschedule the date in which I already asked her. Whether she says yes or no, I will wait a couple of weeks to a month to ask her out again. Does that sound good?
I'm not as upset about it as I was a couple of days ago. I think I have a plan. I will try and reschedule the date in which I already asked her. Whether she says yes or no, I will wait a couple of weeks to a month to ask her out again. Does that sound good?Sounds good. I will keep my fingers crossed for you! :smile:
Sounds good. I will keep my fingers crossed for you!
Thanks, I appreciate all you and everyone else has done.
The_Professional
Apr3-04, 12:02 AM
It seems like our society places great emphasis on having a mate, girlfriend, wife, and vice versa. Ever notice when you're single everyone's trying to hook you up with everyone.
cookiemonster
Apr3-04, 01:18 AM
Really? Nobody's ever once tried to hook me up with anyone in my entire life...
Guess they couldn't find any poor victims.
cookiemonster
Oh, i know quite a lot about this girl we have been friends on and off for about 5 years now (we see eachother now and then) and she has told me a lot about herself...
I have to admit we were both quite drunk, but im not sure how drunk she was... i remember everything but i havent asked her what she remembers about that night.
Hmmmm it's not like I'm a boring person, i do tend to have a lot of interesting (and slightly less interesting) facts...in fact people always ask me the answer to weird questions. I always have a story to tell, and i always make a lot of effort for people... unfortunately a lot of my friends/potential partners take it for granted and dont notice how much i put in for them. I suppose goalwise, im not really very sorted. It's an important decision time in my life but i have no real plans. Other than the fact that i am going to be a billionaire somehow. :biggrin:
I suppose i may as well give up on this girl thinking about it. We arranged to meet up twice this week, and i have phoned and sent messages to her asking details and stuff and she has never responded (the odd thing was that she was the one who asked if i wanted to meet up with her). *sigh* its lame. And depressing. All my friends are taken and i feel like such a loser when we go out cos i'm "captain single".
Jimmy P,
If I were a guy I would look at the bigger picture and think along these lines:
1. What do I want in a woman?
Pretty/beautiful (a must), all the right curves in the right place (don't get me started on her anatomy), kind and loving (very important that she is nice to me, my family, my friends and our children), nice personality and character (wouldn't want the children to have anti-social genes), educated and intelligent and sensible (so I could count on her advice (and income) in difficult times, a girlfriend/wife is afterall a man's greatest asset) etc etc etc.
2. Now that I know what I want, what does she want? In other words, what do I have to be like to attract this ideal woman?
Well guess work is not quite necessary here, statistics have repeatedly shown that women in general want their men to be intelligent, reliable, kind and good looking.
3. Where is she most likely to be found?
Watering holes? Discos? Shopping malls? Cinemas? Football pitch? Bus stops? Hospitals? Ladies (unfortunately men are barred)?
I would say a young man who is warm, friendly, smart, considerate and forthright with a wide variety of interests like YOU, armed with a good education, will eventually quite without fail find himself in an enviable position where he literally has to "peel off willing women" like Zero said.
Personally I will go for the university for Question 3.
Listen to Polly, Chopnik. She's giving you GREAT advice. :wink:
I'd like to go to university, but i just cant get the grades in maths. I try real hard but every module so far i have failed spectacularily. ah well.
I would like to say that i am "a young man who is warm, friendly, smart, considerate and forthright with a wide variety of interests like YOU, armed with a good education" but i cant because im not very confident in myself.... though i will admit that i have a wicked sense of humour.
I dunno, sometimes I'm just willing to give up and become a priest. Until i realise that I'm not religious. I have never had much luck with girls.... I suppose I'm a but like Prudens, but he gets a little further with the girls, they talk to him loads and invite him round n stuff :)
Dimitri Terryn
Apr3-04, 02:21 PM
Well, I do hope that you get into a university. Besides the trivial matters like education and your future, being in a place filled with charming, beautiful, INTELLIGENT women is a such a wonderful experience. I remember my first weeks, when my first reaction was : "So here's where they've been hiding for all these years !" :biggrin:
I had similar thoughts when I first found PF, off course :wink:
I'd like to go to university, but i just cant get the grades in maths. I try real hard but every module so far i have failed spectacularily. ah well.
So what kind of non-university schools do you have over there where you can 'fail spectacularly' at maths? Go THERE! :biggrin:
I would like to say that i am "a young man who is warm, friendly, smart, considerate and forthright with a wide variety of interests like YOU, armed with a good education" but i cant because im not very confident in myself.... though i will admit that i have a wicked sense of humour.
You are ALL of those things!!! You're just still working on the education part. :biggrin: Ya know... Drama classes can be a real kick in the pants AND help build confidence. (Yes, I know. I'm weird - but I'm SERIOUS! Your sense of comedy would do well there! Did you ever see -or even HEAR of- a play called Tony & Tina's Wedding? It was an audience participation play and completely hysterical. I was this close *holds up fingers mashed together* to auditioning for that play. I often wish I HAD. It would have been a blast!!!! :biggrin: ) Anyway... Just a thought... :redface:
I dunno, sometimes I'm just willing to give up and become a priest. Until i realise that I'm not religious. I have never had much luck with girls.... I suppose I'm a but like Prudens, but he gets a little further with the girls, they talk to him loads and invite him round n stuff :)
Yeah. Right. You - a priest. :biggrin: :eek: :biggrin: Hang in there, Chopnik. I was 30 when I met Ivan! :wink: (What's a 'but like Prudens'?) :biggrin:
She is a beautiful, charming and intelligent woman so i should feel lucky if i get with her!
Unfortunately Tsunami, this is my final year before university so i am AT the non-uni school where i fail maths spectacularly. I like ham-acting more, its a lot of fun to blatantly overdo things, and if needs be, I'm a master! :) A bit like Prudens is "unlucky with women" (no offence Prudens) however i make more moves than he does.
Recent development, the girl i like phoned me on Saturday to ask if we could meet up at some point during the week. She is supposed to phone tomorrow so we can arrange something for wednesday or thursday so fingers crossed. If anything does happen i shall let you guys (n gals) know!
hehe omg i cant beileve that love relationship is so complicate,. it's more complicate than maths or physics.
sometimes it's like that, the one you really loved that makes u go dizzy, u might not able to be with. the one who loves u deeply , u might not feel a thing. u eventually will be with the one who is just in the middle.
i think is that
if you try to hard to love a person, sometimes it turns to be ugly.
it needs a clear head, to get a alone with a person. not to be too dizzy for it. you will
become negative .
my suggestion
it's best to assume how her feelings are, and wat she is thinking, usually not abel to predict exactly to wats real but quiet useful to make your moves, to keep her feel warm.
all i mean is that u got understand a girl first , before really let her be your girlfriend.
it you cant even understand her, than it's really hard for further relationship anyway.
for chronc if you are able to know her more, through her recent thoughts expressed in conversation , or her interest. you could easily know want she wants and her satisfaction.
btw 1 dont let her know that u r trying know everything about her. she will feel wierd uncomfortable, maybe even annoying
2 dont try to everything abt her, u get confused. just know the things will help you with your relationship. but nothing abt her feeling to other ppl.
etc
Cheers for that, I'll keep it in mind. Well we are going to the cinema tomorrow.... even if it is like, 2 hours in silence in front of a screen, the rest of the time spent with her will be quality... hopefully...
Esperanto
Apr7-04, 08:14 PM
In my opinion, education is the reason why people have difficulties having relationships. For high school in America, you get a lunch break and five or six five minute bells to meet up (Hope it's better in England). Don't talk in class, of course. I can easily blame school for causing low self-esteem. It's their job. In addition to school crushing you, you're probably wearing deodorant that prevents you from sweating and releasing yummy pheromonies. I don't know hehe, thought it'd be interesting to say. If I were you, I should only listen to the primitive caveman grunts that should be the natural progression of your infant googoo gaagaa. I also blame our learning to talk as the cause of our lack of self-confidence and the meaninglessness my words seem to have captured innately. You know what you need? Pheromonies products. Even if they don't work, they'll boost your confidence. And about the deodorant, I know thai deodorant stones are an alternative to mainstream deodorants. They work by killing the bacteria that causes bad odor, and it works for me much better than the deodorant that suppresses sweating. Some deodorants contain perfume and pheromones, I know Axe sprays do. And if that fails, start singing, "Girls just want boys with cars and money"
well, i got stood up... probably could have guessed that would happen, I'm "Captain Unlucky" after all. Looking on the bright side, if I had gone out with her, I would probably have been hit by a meteorite or something...
Stop chasing this girl. If she would disrespect you by not even showing up, she's not worth chasing.
well i was supposed to pick her up, and i phoned her to make sure she was ready before i left....1.5 hours of phoning later there was still no answer.
well i was supposed to pick her up, and i phoned her to make sure she was ready before i left....1.5 hours of phoning later there was still no answer.Awww, Chopnik. :frown: Look on the bright side, maybe something terrible happened to her. :tongue:
I don't get it. She called you about getting together. Maybe there is a reasonable answer.
that's what i am thinking but i cant help but feel let down and disappointed!
that's what i am thinking but i cant help but feel let down and disappointed!
Aww... :frown: My poor Chopnik! :insert crying emoticon here: Try not to let it get to you too much until you have talked to her. Poop occurs, you know. Something MUST have happened - hope it was just a minor emergency. I really don't think she would call you ('ring you up'? 'knock you up'? :eek: :biggrin: ) and set up a date just to stand you up (unless she is a real stinker and I don't think you'd fall for a girl who's a real stinker. :wink: ).
if you tries to understand her love her but she never did or [[[responde]]] then there is no point.
jimmy p
Apr11-04, 09:09 PM
Awww, Chopnik. :frown: Look on the bright side, maybe something terrible happened to her. :tongue:
I don't get it. She called you about getting together. Maybe there is a reasonable answer.
you were right!! :rolleyes: she had a chest infection. Seeing if we can meet up THIS week...
you were right!! :rolleyes: she had a chest infection. Seeing if we can meet up THIS week...See, your Aunt Tsu & I knew something was wrong! :biggrin:
jimmy p
Apr12-04, 06:56 PM
had a nice 1.5 hour long conversation with her tonight (thank god for contract phones) which was cool. I think she enjoys talking to me..... enjoys the abuse!! Anyways, we should be meeting up THIS thursday..
Excellent!! Have fun!! :biggrin:
had a nice 1.5 hour long conversation with her tonight (thank god for contract phones) which was cool. I think she enjoys talking to me..... enjoys the abuse!! Anyways, we should be meeting up THIS thursday..That's wonderful!!!!!! :biggrin:
had a nice 1.5 hour long conversation with her tonight (thank god for contract phones) which was cool. I think she enjoys talking to me..... enjoys the abuse!! Anyways, we should be meeting up THIS thursday..
I hope I have the same luck as you. I'll let y'all know what's going down when it happens. I plan on calling her tomorrow for the details on our date. Wish me luck, y'all.
Good news, guys. I called her to confirm our date and it's on! Two weeks from Friday we will be going out.
Chrono, that's wonderful!!! :smile: Keep us posted!!!!!
I am very happy for you. ENJOY!!
Trogdor
Apr15-04, 12:14 AM
aww im so lonely. haha jks. I do have this one girl tho whos a good friend and we make fun of how we're always so awkward around each other, which makes it less awkward and me less nervous b/c I know shes just as nervous as me. so for people who say its not kool to be nervous, it is. haha
peace
TROGDOR!! So your the one that took the name I was going to get! I shale have my REVENGE!!
The ideal dating situation for me is to date someone that lives 8000 miles away and only see them once every 2-3 years. You definitely don't get on each other's nerves. :biggrin:
The_Professional
Apr16-04, 10:59 AM
The ideal dating situation for me is to date someone that lives 8000 miles away and only see them once every 2-3 years. You definitely don't get on each other's nerves. :biggrin:
Sounds like the perfect marriage.
The ideal dating situation for me is to date someone that lives 8000 miles away and only see them once every 2-3 years. You definitely don't get on each other's nerves.
I doubt I could that. Of course, emotions do get out of hand when you've been apart for that long. :biggrin:
Since y'all are so interested the date is exactly two weeks from today. I just got the tickets today. Here's what I'm thinking of doing: The show doesn't start until 7:00 so I'll pick her up (once I learn how to get there) at around 5:00 and take her out to eat. Where, I haven't yet decided. After that it's off to the show. It's not much, but it's a good start, I think. I'm also thinking of, since her birthday is that following week, getting her some flowers. I'm still debating if that will be a good idea or not.
jimmy p
Apr16-04, 07:27 PM
talking of "dates" the meeting with my girl was ok i think, not much advancement on the situation but we did get to talk a lot which was cool. I have been invited out with her and her mates on Monday which cant be too bad, means she wants me to meet her friends (approval???) who knows...
talking of "dates" the meeting with my girl was ok i think, not much advancement on the situation but we did get to talk a lot which was cool. I have been invited out with her and her mates on Monday which cant be too bad, means she wants me to meet her friends (approval???) who knows...
Looks like both our lucks are changing for the better.
jimmy p
Apr16-04, 07:46 PM
I doubt I could that. Of course, emotions do get out of hand when you've been apart for that long. :biggrin:
Since y'all are so interested the date is exactly two weeks from today. I just got the tickets today. Here's what I'm thinking of doing: The show doesn't start until 7:00 so I'll pick her up (once I learn how to get there) at around 5:00 and take her out to eat. Where, I haven't yet decided. After that it's off to the show. It's not much, but it's a good start, I think. I'm also thinking of, since her birthday is that following week, getting her some flowers. I'm still debating if that will be a good idea or not.
Sounds like a plan... maybe do i trial run of her house or something just so you dont end up in another state or something... hmmm food-wise, dont take her out somewhere majorly expensive, after all, its only first date (is it?? if not, ignore me) and for her birthday, i would see how this date goes before you buy her anything.
Sounds like a plan... maybe do i trial run of her house or something just so you dont end up in another state or something... hmmm food-wise, dont take her out somewhere majorly expensive, after all, its only first date (is it?? if not, ignore me) and for her birthday, i would see how this date goes before you buy her anything.
I plan on doing a trial run to her house. Probably offer to take her home after work and she can just direct me how to get there. My dad suggested that I take her to Pizza Hut. Sounds good to me, but I'm not sure if she'll want to go there. I'll probably ask her. I could do that for the flowers, as a birthday gift and to say thanks for the date.
cookiemonster
Apr16-04, 09:06 PM
All females like flowers, regardless of the occasion. It's a law of nature.
cookiemonster
I could do that for the flowers, as a birthday gift and to say thanks for the date.Flowers are perfect.
I have been invited out with her and her mates on Monday which cant be too bad, means she wants me to meet her friends (approval???) who knows...That's a good sign!!
Flowers are perfect.
Before or after the date? Or does it matter?
cookiemonster
Apr16-04, 11:38 PM
Before, after, and every day inbetween!
cookiemonster
Before or after the date? Or does it matter?I would give them to her when it is convenient for her to put them in water. If she can put them in water at her house when you pick her up, it may be the best time. You can't carry flowers around with you all night.
Dimitri Terryn
Apr17-04, 03:09 AM
All females like flowers, regardless of the occasion. It's a law of nature.
cookiemonster
So true ! A few months ago I found a wrapped up rose in the physics lab one day, beautifully dried. Probably a leftover from Valentine's day. Anyway, I thought it was pretty funny and took it with. I presented it to this girl I know when I got out of the lab, half-jokingly making a big deal about it...
Imagine my suprise when I went to her place last week and noticed she had kept it in her room alll this time!
Flowers (and cute cards with something personal on them) are an irrational need of women. Use them wisely my friend.
Women what a pain in the arse.
In all fairness though im sure not all women are a pain in the arse, just the one i fell for.
Dimitri Terryn
Apr17-04, 04:35 PM
Women what a pain in the arse.
In all fairness though im sure not all women are a pain in the arse, just the one i fell for.
Ah yes, women. They will be the death of us. Only fitting, since it is to them that we own our life in the first place. And I cannot think of a more pleasing way to meet one's end.
Ah yes, women. They will be the death of us. For me it's men. I do not understand them. Why do men act so weird? Why can't they just come out and say what they mean?
My girlfriend is beautiful, sweet and intelligent. Men ask her out, but then never call or show up for the first date! I have developed an alien abduction theory to explain it.
Ok guys, what are you thinking??
cookiemonster
Apr17-04, 06:50 PM
Because if we say what we mean then you'll all go and twist it into something we don't and we'll get blamed for it...?
Better to not say anything at all.
cookiemonster
jimmy p
Apr17-04, 06:59 PM
yes!!!! your are right cookiemonster!!! Heads we lose, Tails we lose. Or if we subjected you to what you really think you would freak out/want to commit murder. Just think about it next time you ask a guy what he thinks about your new shoes/hairdo. :)
But I am not one of those "high maintenance" women, neither is she. I don't get upset about trivial garbage. I don't come unglued at every little thing. I hate women that are like that. Both of us are exceptionally laid back. I've actually had men that assumed I didn't like them because I was so "normal" and didn't go beserk over ridiculous stuff.
Men seem to be insane when it comes to relationships. Is it because you have all been destroyed at an early age by a self centered psycho barbie? :tongue:
jimmy p
Apr17-04, 07:28 PM
well she wasnt self centred... or that much of a barbie... but i think psycho was an understatement.
Ok, let me give you an example why I don't date anymore.
One guy I was dating very casually, a successful business man, handsome, very sought after. He staged his own disappearance for 4 days to see how I would react!!! His close freinds and family knew he was ok, he just made it appear to me that he had vanished. I failed because I wasn't concerned enough. We weren't in a steady relationship, so it's not like he'd have to tell me if he was going out of town for a few days, although it was odd.
Another great guy, seriously, he was. But after only 3 dates, he called me at 1:30am and wanted to come over. I said no, so he started accusing me of having someone else there. A few minutes later, he's banging on my front door demanding to come in, saying if I was really alone I wouldn't object. So, I let him in and he went through the house and was amazed that I was really alone. Last date with that guy.
I could go on and on. Guys that call me 40 times an hour (I don't answer), showing up at my front door unannounced, spying on me. AAAGH!
Men are insane!
Maybe this would be a good thread? "PSYCHO DATES FROM HELL"
jimmy p
Apr17-04, 08:09 PM
maybe you should adopt my old signature......
maybe you should adopt my old signature......Yes, I am a freak magnet. :frown:
well she wasnt self centred
really?
When i move to the US i would date you Evo. :wink:
Dimitri Terryn
Apr18-04, 10:49 AM
The ideal dating situation for me is to date someone that lives 8000 miles away and only see them once every 2-3 years. You definitely don't get on each other's nerves. :biggrin:
Well, the distance between Belgium and Brussels is of that order of magnitude. When can I come and pay you a visit? :wink:
I'll bring flowers and Belgian chocolates...
Well, the distance between Belgium and Brussels is of that order of magnitude. When can I come and pay you a visit? :wink:
I'll bring flowers and Belgian chocolates...If you're bringing flowers and Belgian chocolates, you can come over anytime. :biggrin: Dimitri, you are such a doll!!! :smile:
Andy, you are a sweetheart also. hint: Belgian chocolates & flowers won't hurt either. :wink:
P.S. Don't let Tsunami know about the chocolate, she'll make me share.
When did adam get involved in this thread?
When did adam get involved in this thread?AAAGH, ANDY not Adam. I have corrected it. Sorry Andy.
Dimitri Terryn
Apr18-04, 03:44 PM
P.S. Don't let Tsunami know about the chocolate, she'll make me share.
It will be our little secret :wink:
Monique
Apr18-04, 03:53 PM
Just wait until she sees this... better be far far away...
jimmy p
Apr18-04, 04:24 PM
really?
ok then, I lied.... :biggrin:
Origionally posted by Her?
AAAGH, ANDY not Adam. I have corrected it. Sorry Andy.
No worries im useless with names aswell.
It will be our little secret :wink:
What?!?!?!?
Did I hear
CHOCOLATE?!?!?!?!?
funny how my chocolate radar goes off like that... I haven't been on PF much lately, but I just had this feeling... :wink:
Now LOOKY HERE!!! I've been feeling especially (read 'incredibly') grumpy lately (too much COLD and RAIN going on here in Oregon - I need some WARMTH and SUNSHINE!! :crying:).
So, I don't want to have to deal with any lousy CHOCOLATE hiding CONSPIRACIES!!! :mad: :biggrin: GOT IT??????????
Here, though, is some loving advice to all the men here from their Sweet (sometimes) Aunt Tsu:
Learning What to Say to Women:
DANGEROUS: What's for dinner?
SAFER: Can I help you with dinner?
SAFEST: Where would you like to go for dinner?
ULTRASAFE: Here, have some chocolate.
DANGEROUS: Are you wearing that?
SAFER: Gee, you look good in brown.
SAFEST: WOW! Look at you!
ULTRASAFE: Here, have some chocolate.
DANGEROUS: What are you so worked up about?
SAFER: Could we be overreacting?
SAFEST: Here's fifty dollars.
ULTRASAFE: Here, have some chocolate.
DANGEROUS: Should you be eating that?
SAFER: You know, there are a lot of apples left.
SAFEST: Can I get you a glass of wine with that?
ULTRASAFE: Here, have some chocolate.
DANGEROUS: What did you do all day?
SAFER: I hope you didn't overdo it today.
SAFEST: I've always loved you in that robe!
ULTRASAFE: Here, have some more chocolate.
Copy this and keep it in your wallet. Refer to it frequently. :wink: :biggrin:
Tsunami, you are a riot!!!!!! :biggrin:
Sounds like I need to send large amounts of dark Belgian chocolate your way. Nirvana? :smile:
{private message to Dimitri} ok, from now on we only mention chocolate in code - *dirty toenail clippings*, Tsunami will never catch on. :cool:
Nirvana? :smile:
Absolutely!! :biggrin:
{private message to Dimitri} ok, from now on we only mention chocolate in code - *dirty toenail clippings*
GAK!!!!!! :eek:
Tsunami will never catch on. :cool:
Yeah, right. Sheesh. Ya think I just fell off the chocolate truck like a spring chicken yesterday??????
Math Is Hard
Apr18-04, 07:34 PM
Tsunami, have you ever had Lindt chocolate? It's the best!
The_Professional
Apr18-04, 08:55 PM
Godiva is the BEST
Oh, yes. I've had Lindt, Godiva, Dove Dark (one of my favorite readily available chocolates) and a multitude of other chocolates. In fact, Ivan and I spent 3 weeks taste testing chocolates all over europe. The conculsion--> I'm HOOKED on Belgian chocolates. Even the ones with stuff in them that I don't like!! They are total oral orgasms!!! :biggrin: :wink: Ivan found the Nirvana site on-line and we've certainly been enjoying them for special occasions for many years now. :smile: When I don't have a box of Nirvana, though, a lovely bag of frozen Hersheys or Ghirrardelli semi-sweet chocolate bits (for cookies) will take care of a serious chocolate jones (I try to keep some on hand, but I have to hide them from Ivan or they'd be gone IMMEDIATELY!!). Frozen M&M's (plain or dark) are an acceptable substitute. :wink:
One guy I was dating very casually, a successful business man, handsome, very sought after. He staged his own disappearance for 4 days to see how I would react!!! His close freinds and family knew he was ok, he just made it appear to me that he had vanished. I failed because I wasn't concerned enough. We weren't in a steady relationship, so it's not like he'd have to tell me if he was going out of town for a few days, although it was odd.
Another great guy, seriously, he was. But after only 3 dates, he called me at 1:30am and wanted to come over. I said no, so he started accusing me of having someone else there. A few minutes later, he's banging on my front door demanding to come in, saying if I was really alone I wouldn't object. So, I let him in and he went through the house and was amazed that I was really alone. Last date with that guy.
I could go on and on. Guys that call me 40 times an hour (I don't answer), showing up at my front door unannounced, spying on me. AAAGH!
Men are insane!
Evo, I am very sorry to know that you seem to have a problem that not even Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus (my bible) can solve. The book says one of the primal emotional needs of men is to be trusted. Those guys you mention don't seem to have that need at all, in fact they seem to have a desperate (feminine) need for attention. I am really baffled. Maybe subconsciously they know that you are the intidote for their neurosis and therefore find you absolutely irresistible. Hmmmmm. But DON'T give up hope, keep sampling, there are guys and there are guys. If all else fail, MAKE them read the book for self-improvement before going out with you again.
Dimitri Terryn
Apr19-04, 12:16 AM
You are reading far to much into this. Those guys were jerks, period.
Math Is Hard
Apr19-04, 12:31 AM
I agree. But anyway, who needs a lover anyway when there's really good chocolate to be had. Chocolate never stands you up on a date or goes psycho on you! :)
Nirvana web site, huh? Thanks for the tip - I'm there!
<dissapears in a flash>
Evo, I am very sorry to know that you seem to have a problem that not even Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus (my bible) can solve. The book says one of the primal emotional needs of men is to be trusted. Those guys you mention don't seem to have that need at all, in fact they seem to have a desperate (feminine) need for attention. I am really baffled. Maybe subconsciously they know that you are the intidote for their neurosis and therefore find you absolutely irresistible. Hmmmmm. But DON'T give up hope, keep sampling, there are guys and there are guys. If all else fail, MAKE them read the book for self-improvement before going out with you again.Thanks Polly, but Dimitri is correct, it's no big deal. I had no emotional relationship with them. I tend to figure out a guy is emotionally needy very quickly and drop them like hot potatoes. Unfortunatley, it seems to be the only type I meet in real life.
There are so many damaged men out there that have only dealt with high maintenance, demanding, clinging vine types that when they meet someone like me that doesn't want to be attached at the hip, they misunderstand and think either I don't want them or there is someone else.
My philosophy on dating is that it's either right or wrong, and if it's wrong, don't waste time trying to make it work, cut your loses and move on.
I was talking to my best friend in Sicily tonight and he told me he is going tomorrow to scope out a Mediterranean island off the coast of Sicily for a photographic shoot.
Oh, for the ancient ruins, I naively ask?
Uhm, no. His friend's dad owns a large company and his friend decided it would be a good idea to hire a large group of gorgeous bikini models from Romania for a company calendar.
Uh huh. So, they're going to fly all these bikini models to a secluded island in the Mediterranean for a few days this summer. For a calendar, for the company, of course they have to be there. Uh huh.
You guys are shocked and appalled, right? You would have nothing to do with this and would turn down an invitation, right? Of course you would!!!!
There are so many damaged men out there that have only dealt with high maintenance, demanding, clinging vine types that when they meet someone like me that doesn't want to be attached at the hip, they misunderstand and think either I don't want them or there is someone else.
My philosophy on dating is that it's either right or wrong, and if it's wrong, don't waste time trying to make it work, cut your loses and move on.
My boyfriend is a globally acknowledged Mr. Nice. Very polite and gentle. He also has a heart of gold which is why I fell for him. Of course I only realised the damage done to him as a result of being dumped in a boarding school since 8 when it was too late. He had been desperate for his mother's love and could never say no to her, who oppresses and twists him around. Since we have been having this long distance relationship, she would say nasty things about me and even put words into my mouth. It was very difficult. I guess the relation has managed to work chiefly because I acted like a "saint", honestly I did. I would ignore the mother and instead of telling him what to do or how much pain I am in, I concentrated on encouraging him and praising him for every little thing he does. He grew to be much bolder and not needy of his mother anymore (HOORAY!!). Encouragement and praise, works for puppies works for men. You have been lucky so far sister but watch out, because "it is a lightening city" :biggrin: .
I was talking to my best friend in Sicily tonight and he told me he is going tomorrow to scope out a Mediterranean island off the coast of Sicily for a photographic shoot.
Oh, for the ancient ruins, I naively ask?
Uhm, no. His friend's dad owns a large company and his friend decided it would be a good idea to hire a large group of gorgeous bikini models from Romania for a company calendar.
Uh huh. So, they're going to fly all these bikini models to a secluded island in the Mediterranean for a few days this summer. For a calendar, for the company, of course they have to be there. Uh huh.
You guys are shocked and appalled, right? You would have nothing to do with this and would turn down an invitation, right? Of course you would!!!!
Well let the men have fun. I am sure the models will have a wonderful time as well.
Dimitri Terryn
Apr20-04, 02:53 AM
I was talking to my best friend in Sicily tonight and he told me he is going tomorrow to scope out a Mediterranean island off the coast of Sicily for a photographic shoot.
Oh, for the ancient ruins, I naively ask?
Uhm, no. His friend's dad owns a large company and his friend decided it would be a good idea to hire a large group of gorgeous bikini models from Romania for a company calendar.
Uh huh. So, they're going to fly all these bikini models to a secluded island in the Mediterranean for a few days this summer. For a calendar, for the company, of course they have to be there. Uh huh.
You guys are shocked and appalled, right? You would have nothing to do with this and would turn down an invitation, right? Of course you would!!!!
I'm not sure... I really, really like Sicily.
Uhm, no. His friend's dad owns a large company and his friend decided it would be a good idea to hire a large group of gorgeous bikini models from Romania for a company calendar.
Uh huh. So, they're going to fly all these bikini models to a secluded island in the Mediterranean for a few days this summer. For a calendar, for the company, of course they have to be there. Uh huh.
You guys are shocked and appalled, right? You would have nothing to do with this and would turn down an invitation, right? Of course you would!!!!
Aw, come on now. They may be planning on selling the calendars for charity or for a fundraiser.
I'm not sure... I really, really like Sicily.I'm sure it's even more fun with 12 bikini models. :biggrin:
Aw, come on now. They may be planning on selling the calendars for charity or for a fundraiser.You're right a fundraiser to get more models. :wink:
I'm not sure... I really, really like Sicily.
I'm sure it's even more fun with 12 bikini models. :biggrin:
I'M thinking that might be WHY he really really likes Sicily. :biggrin:
Aw, come on now. They may be planning on selling the calendars for charity or for a fundraiser.
Yeah! THAT'S it!!! That's the ticket! It's a charitable OBLIGATION!!
Right!! :wink: :biggrin:
I was talking to my best friend in Sicily tonight and he told me he is going tomorrow to scope out a Mediterranean island off the coast of Sicily for a photographic shoot.
Oh, for the ancient ruins, I naively ask?
Uhm, no. His friend's dad owns a large company and his friend decided it would be a good idea to hire a large group of gorgeous bikini models from Romania for a company calendar.
Uh huh. So, they're going to fly all these bikini models to a secluded island in the Mediterranean for a few days this summer. For a calendar, for the company, of course they have to be there. Uh huh.
You guys are shocked and appalled, right? You would have nothing to do with this and would turn down an invitation, right? Of course you would!!!!
Sounds a little like a 'I'm trying to make you just a little bit jealous' ploy.
So. Did you tell him that YOU are the judge in a Hunky Guy contest? :biggrin:
(Maybe you and your SISTER should take a little trip to Sicily this summer? Rent a nice little (ski) boat, maybe do a little trolling... :wink: :biggrin:)
Yeah! THAT'S it!!! That's the ticket! It's a charitable OBLIGATION!!
Right!!
Hey, you never know. Just think what they can do with all the money they get from selling them.
Hey, you never know. Just think what they can do with all the money they get from selling them.
I doubt they will be selling them. More like giveaways to their customers - like pens, coffeecups, baseball caps...
Sounds a little like a 'I'm trying to make you just a little bit jealous' ploy.
So. Did you tell him that YOU are the judge in a Hunky Guy contest? :biggrin:
(Maybe you and your SISTER should take a little trip to Sicily this summer? Rent a nice little (ski) boat, maybe do a little trolling... :wink: :biggrin:)Yeah, he's rubbing it in. Hmmmm, a little trip to Sicily just might be in order. Ivan won't mind, right? :biggrin:
It's exactly one week until the date. I've told my parents and they seem cool with it, except that they don't really want us to be serious. Oh, well, if it does, it does. At least, that's what I'm hoping for.
Yeah, he's rubbing it in. Hmmmm, a little trip to Sicily just might be in order. Ivan won't mind, right? :biggrin:
Heck, no! When do we leave? :wink:
Hope the week goes fast for you, Chrono! It's going to be a busy day for some of us PFer's. I know someone who's having a birthday next Friday :wink: and I'm getting together with two old college friends for dinner. Hot diggity! Fun times are on OTW!! :biggrin:
PrudensOptimus
Apr24-04, 11:32 AM
OK, PrudensOptimus, it has been a couple of months now. I'm curious as to how things are going. Did you ever make a date? Find another girl? Or, are you still where you were?
I think some other guys out there shared their problems. I think it's time for a little update.
:wink:
I am back :D :biggrin:
And umm, haven't found anyone lately, however, I was working on some proofs for E=MC^2.
jimmy p
Apr24-04, 11:37 AM
WOOT!!!! long time no see Prudens!!!
PrudensOptimus
Apr24-04, 11:53 AM
WOOT!!!! long time no see Prudens!!!
Heh heh.
A little update of my life.
On March 20th I led my Botball team to victory at SouthEastern Regional Conference, 3rd place, could've done better, but I was the only one that wrote the programs for the bots. Around July I'll be going to San Jose for National competition.
Around April I was invited to an interview for semi-finalists for ASMS(Arkansas Math and Science school), got accepted, happy. It's a boarding school(go home on the weekends, you know what that means:D).
And, recently, worked on a proof on E=MC^2, as a result of deriviing from the Work Energy theorem, I got E = m(rest) * c^2 * Gamma + mc^2 + m(rest)/m * c^2, where c is speed of light and Gamma is the Lorentz factor. If I assume rest mass is 0, then E is basically mc^2. I probably made a few false assumptions that I need to remodify.
jimmy p
Apr24-04, 12:00 PM
sounds like a lot of work. I have been sitting at my computer thinking about doing work, and in my spare time, trying to bait a girl into liking me :)
PrudensOptimus
Apr24-04, 05:57 PM
sounds like a lot of work. I have been sitting at my computer thinking about doing work, and in my spare time, trying to bait a girl into liking me :)
Wow, i feel much comforted to hear the same from you. I try to bait one too, but no time to spend with her.
So, I chose to do something worth while, working out, swimming, and prooving EMC2: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=195517
Math Is Hard
Apr24-04, 06:42 PM
Around April I was invited to an interview for semi-finalists for ASMS(Arkansas Math and Science school), got accepted, happy.
Snaps for PrudensOptimus getting into ASMS!
Way to go!
:biggrin:
Ok, little update here (to keep this thread alive mostly). I went to talk to her at work to let her know what time I would pick her up and stuff, and, seriously, she did not seem interested what so ever. The only thing I can think that happend was, and it seemed quite evident, that she was just in a bad mood to start with. I'm not even sure if she really heard the time I told her I'd be by. I'm thinking that I should call her tomorrow to verify.
You know, I had always thought that you had to actually be in a romantic relationship before you had to get your heart broken. It seems I was wrong. I'm sorry, guys. I know you had high hopes for the best for me, but, I'm afraid that's not going to happen. Sorry to break it to y'all, but I thought you should know.
Chrono, I am so sad to hear that. It sounds like she could have some emotional problems, she is acting a bit odd.
I wish there was something I could do or say to ease your pain, but it will just take time.
You sound like a very loving, caring person. The right girl will come along. I know that you don't want to hear that right now, but it will happen.
In the mean time, you have all of us here that enjoy your company. Ok, maybe that's not that comforting. :frown:
Chrono, I am so sad to hear that. It sounds like she could have some emotional problems, she is acting a bit odd.
I wish there was something I could do or say to ease your pain, but it will just take time.
You sound like a very loving, caring person. The right girl will come along. I know that you don't want to hear that right now, but it will happen.
In the mean time, you have all of us here that enjoy your company. Ok, maybe that's not that comforting.
Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad to that you enjoy my company.
Time? Perhaps you're right. I really thought we could have been together, and I tried as hard as I could to make that happen. But, it seems I must have missed something along the way.
Emotional problems? I don't know. She knew we were going out Friday. I made sure she was off, then she tells me that she's working. I understand none of it.
Once again, I appreciate you putting up with me on this.
Put up with you? I'm honored that you listen to me. :smile:
It could be the timing isn't right. Just play it cool and who knows?
Listen to me, the freak magnet, giving advice. :wink:
*pats on the shoulder*
Don't be sad, it is not your fault. She must be in the doldrums now and has a huge baggage of resentment, confusion, sadness, anger and frustration from the previous relationship to sort out. She needs time in a cave to lick her own wound and wait for it to heal. You are a good person, you just appeared in the wrong time. You have pulled out all the stops to make her feel loved and cherished. It is not your fault that she feels the way she does. Do not be sad, and do not bear a grudge either, growing up is an ordeal for all of us. The feelings are young and powerful while the experience to know what to do with them is woefully missing. My younger brother has his heart broken twice, so I know what you are going through. In the end time will heal all wounds, both yours and hers. It may be hard to believe now but you are still very young and you will fall in love again, perhaps even more passionately than this time. Cheer up :smile:
Don't be sad, it is not your fault. She must be in the doldrums now and has a huge baggage of resentment, confusion, sadness, anger and frustration from the previous relationship to sort out. She needs time in a cave to lick her own wound and wait for it to heal. You are a good person, you just appeared in the wrong time. You have pulled out all the stops to make her feel loved and cherished. It is not your fault that she feels the way she does. Do not be sad, and do not bear a grudge either, growing up is an ordeal for all of us. The feelings are young and powerful while the experience to know what to do with them is woefully missing. My younger brother has his heart broken twice, so I know what you are going through. In the end time will heal all wounds, both yours and hers. It may be hard to believe now but you are still very young and you will fall in love again, perhaps even more passionately than this time. Cheer up
In the doldrums? That's possible, but with what happend last night I'm just thinking she was just playing me for a fool.
Twenty-four hours have passed since it happend, and I must say, I'm not as...depressed as I thought I would be. I mean, when it happend I was mad as hell, and then, I kid you not, I cried for a few minutes. No one at work tonight had noticed that anything was wrong.
Hi Chrono. If it is true that she played you for a fool then she must have been someone else's fool and she was taking it out on you. Now that you know what it feels like to be taken as a fool, try to forgive her for that must have been what she has gone through too. From my experience if you are able to sympathize someone you hate, your own wound will heal faster.
The worst time is probably over now and you are recovering. Some months from now I am sure you will be able to say, everything happens for the best :smile:
Hi Chrono. If it is true that she played you for a fool then she must have been someone else's fool and she was taking it out on you. Now that you know what it feels like to be taken as a fool, try to forgive her for that must have been what she has gone through too. From my experience if you are able to sympathize someone you hate, your own wound will heal faster.
The worst time is probably over now and you are recovering. Some months from now I am sure you will be able to say, everything happens for the best
You know, you may be on to something.
Dang, guys, I never expected to feel this well after what happend. And it's been less than a week, three days have passed since the "date" night. By the way, I went to the show by myself. I think I've moved on. How I know, you may ask? Well, there's this new girl at work (that seems to be the only place I meet chicks, I've noticed). And I tell you what, I think I'm going to try to get with her.
Dang, guys, I never expected to feel this well after what happend. And it's been less than a week, three days have passed since the "date" night. By the way, I went to the show by myself. I think I've moved on. How I know, you may ask? Well, there's this new girl at work (that seems to be the only place I meet chicks, I've noticed). And I tell you what, I think I'm going to try to get with her.Good for you Chrono!!!! :biggrin:
You don't think that's too soon, though? Oh, well. It couldn't hurt, I don't think.
It may be a little soon, but you weren't in a heavy, long term relationship with the other girl, so I think finding someone else (as long as you don't use her just to ease your pain), may be just what you need.
It may be a little soon, but you weren't in a heavy, long term relationship with the other girl, so I think finding someone else (as long as you don't use her just to ease your pain), may be just what you need.
You're right. We didn't even have a relationship. I think it's about time I started looking for someone. I mean, it's summer soon and I'm going to have plenty of time on my hands to go out. I actually think one of the older coworkers of mine would agree that we do go out. She did predict that the other one would hurt me.
Hi Chrono. If it is true that she played you for a fool then she must have been someone else's fool and she was taking it out on you. Now that you know what it feels like to be taken as a fool, try to forgive her for that must have been what she has gone through too. From my experience if you are able to sympathize someone you hate, your own wound will heal faster.
The worst time is probably over now and you are recovering. Some months from now I am sure you will be able to say, everything happens for the best :smile:
hoho seriously love this quote haha " if you are able to sympathize someone you hate, your own wound will heal faster."
;)
hey chrono who ever you love , make a choice and love her.
I just keep finding ways to keep this thread from dying, don't I?
Anyway, about the new girl I told y'all about. I asked her for her number a couple of days ago and, well, I wasn't shot down, but I didn't get the number, either. She just said something like she didn't give it out, not even to her present boyfriend. She said it shows initiative that I find it myself. I thought about that and said that it showed initiative that I asked for it in the first place. She just smiled and nodded.
I swear, my mom was right, women are trouble. :devil: Oh, well.
I just keep finding ways to keep this thread from dying, don't I?
That's what I was going to say!!
When you said "present boyfriend", do you mean she is having a boyfriend now?
That's what I was going to say!!
When you said "present boyfriend", do you mean she is having a boyfriend now?
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. Actually, that's the first thing she said when I had asked for her number. But, I'm not going to worry about it. Truthfully, I just asked to see if she would give it to me.
I just keep finding ways to keep this thread from dying, don't I?
Anyway, about the new girl I told y'all about. I asked her for her number a couple of days ago and, well, I wasn't shot down, but I didn't get the number, either. She just said something like she didn't give it out, not even to her present boyfriend. She said it shows initiative that I find it myself. I thought about that and said that it showed initiative that I asked for it in the first place. She just smiled and nodded.
I swear, my mom was right, women are trouble. :devil: Oh, well.Where do you keep finding these wacko women?
Someday you will find a normal girl. Trust me, some exist. :smile:
Chrono, a young man's heart catches fire easily, sometimes it is even spontaneously combusted, I understand.
But personally I don't mess with any guy with a girlfriend, doesn't matter the status of their relationship, doesn't matter the mutual attraction or the strong feelings between us, doesn't matter all the "signs" shows that we would be great together. Until he is unattached, he is out of the question, period.
It is not so much about the work/trouble/rate of success involved than about ethics. A very bad analogy but the closest I can think of at the moment is this: would I snatch a toy from a 5 year old who is playing with it? No, I will wait my turn. Until the little boy is done with it, I will just have to occupy myself with something worthwhile, like reading books on the 10/11th dimension :wink: ?
Ebolamonk3y
May12-04, 12:30 AM
Where do you keep finding these wacko women?
Someday you will find a normal girl. Trust me, some exist. :smile:
Normal girl? What are you talking about?!?!? (looks around) can't find any here! sorry!
Jenn_ucsb
May12-04, 01:41 AM
I just keep finding ways to keep this thread from dying, don't I?
Anyway, about the new girl I told y'all about. I asked her for her number a couple of days ago and, well, I wasn't shot down, but I didn't get the number, either. She just said something like she didn't give it out, not even to her present boyfriend. She said it shows initiative that I find it myself. I thought about that and said that it showed initiative that I asked for it in the first place. She just smiled and nodded.
I swear, my mom was right, women are trouble. :devil: Oh, well.
Of course girls are trouble when you are expecting one with a boyfriend to like you....
Find a normal single girl, preferably one you don't work with. That can get messy.
Normal girl? What are you talking about?!?!? (looks around) can't find any here! sorry!
Obviously, I'm having the same problem.
jimmy p
May12-04, 10:11 AM
LOL that makes 3 of us. My girl has fallen through, she is interested in some other guy... i never did find out whether she liked me or not
LOL that makes 3 of us. My girl has fallen through, she is interested in some other guy... i never did find out whether she liked me or not
Dude, what is it with us and women? I understand more about the fourth dimension than about them. I guess this quote is true, "Getting screwed while everyone else is getting laid."
The_Professional
May12-04, 12:20 PM
Read Cosmopolitan magazine...they have a lot of great advice on the proper application of make-up.
Perhaps I should have studied these first.
Murphy's Love Laws
1. All the good ones are taken.
2. If the person isn't taken, there's a reason.
3. The nicer someone is, the farther away (s)he is from you.
4. Brains x Beauty x Availability = Constant.
5. The amount of love someone feels for you is inversely proportional to how much you love them.
6. Money can't buy love, but it sure gets you a great bargaining position.
7. The best things in the world are free --- and worth every penny of it.
8. Every kind action has a not-so-kind reaction.
9. Nice guys(girls) finish last.
10. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
11. Availability is a function of time. The minute you get interested is the minute they find someone else.
jimmy p
May12-04, 01:12 PM
lol those are so true... that is my new bible.
Ebolamonk3y
May12-04, 03:27 PM
Dude, what is it with us and women? I understand more about the fourth dimension than about them. I guess this quote is true, "Getting screwed while everyone else is getting laid."
W00t, we loner of 3! I gave up on girls man... Time consuming as anything... I'd rather take a nap and rest!
Normal girl? What are you talking about?!?!? (looks around) can't find any here! sorry!They are rare, but worth finding. I raised both of my daughters to be normal.
My youngest daughter is 16. She just started dating a boy last month. His parents are absolutely crazy about her because she is the first non psycho girl he has dated. They adore my daughter. His mother calls her "my girl". They told him if he ever considered breaking up with her that he'd have to leave home and they'd adopt her in his place. :bugeye: :biggrin:
jimmy p
May12-04, 06:27 PM
well that shouldnt matter Evo, I'm here as a substitute anyway!! No, my mistake was to give the girl I liked good advice and she took it. i should stop being nice to people. :devil:
cookiemonster
May12-04, 06:59 PM
And what do you think of the boy, Evo?
cookiemonster
Ebolamonk3y
May12-04, 10:43 PM
these questions...
And what do you think of the boy, Evo?
cookiemonsterHe seems very nice. But I have liked all the boys she's dated. She's too much like her mother though. She doesn't put up with much. She dumps guys if they get too clingy.
Ebolamonk3y
May12-04, 11:24 PM
Hehe... Dating... what is that? :P
cookiemonster
May12-04, 11:42 PM
So how much freedom do you give these guys? Do you let them do as they please?
cookiemonster
Dreamer
May15-04, 06:13 PM
All these crazy relationships! AT least they are REAL relationships. What about a vitrual relationship? The relationship may be virtual, but the pain can be very real. How would you like to lose your mind and think you fell in love with someone on a forum, someone entirely unsuitable and unlikely, the antithesis of your belief system, a person who could be described as strange and goofy and a religious maniac? Someone who is either quite dense, or perhaps the wisest person you've ever met? Someone your colleagues would despise? How would you like to find yourself sneaking around reading her posts, checking for posts, hoping hysterically for answers to private messages, and then fall into a depression when she nonchalantly stopped posting and virtually removed herself from your virtual life?
jimmy p
May15-04, 06:29 PM
i would commit e-suicide.
How would you like to lose your mind and think you fell in love with someone on a forum, someone entirely unsuitable and unlikely, the antithesis of your belief system, a person who could be described as strange and goofy and a religious maniac? Someone who is either quite dense, or perhaps the wisest person you've ever met? Someone your colleagues would despise?Maybe these were all warning signals?
The_Professional
May15-04, 07:04 PM
All these crazy relationships! AT least they are REAL relationships. What about a vitrual relationship? The relationship may be virtual, but the pain can be very real. How would you like to lose your mind and think you fell in love with someone on a forum, someone entirely unsuitable and unlikely, the antithesis of your belief system, a person who could be described as strange and goofy and a religious maniac? Someone who is either quite dense, or perhaps the wisest person you've ever met? Someone your colleagues would despise? How would you like to find yourself sneaking around reading her posts, checking for posts, hoping hysterically for answers to private messages, and then fall into a depression when she nonchalantly stopped posting and virtually removed herself from your virtual life?
It happened, I had to remove myself from there. She's a good person but she was giving too many red flags.
Dreamer
May16-04, 04:44 AM
As far as warning signals go, since imho love/attraction is not rational, warning signals are not much use.
I know many people who have had the same experience, and I always thought they were ridiculous, until it happened to me. At least I never said anything to her.
My point, is, relationships of any sort seem to bring pain and disappointment.
Ebolamonk3y
May16-04, 09:13 AM
Thats why you forgo relationships all together. :)
jimmy p
May16-04, 04:36 PM
At the moment I am trying asexual reproduction.
Divide Divide!!!!!
At the moment I am trying asexual reproduction.
Cool, let us know how it goes. If it goes well, we should try it, too.
The_Professional
May16-04, 09:16 PM
As far as warning signals go, since imho love/attraction is not rational, warning signals are not much use.
I strongly disagree. This is not based on reality.
Ebolamonk3y
May16-04, 10:24 PM
Chemistry...
Murphy's Love Laws
4. Brains x Beauty x Availability = Constant.
Look at me, I'm quoting myself.
Anyway, I've been reading this for a couple of days now (you think that's why I have so much girl problems?). But, this is one I don't get. Perhaps one of you can help me on this one.
Ebolamonk3y
May17-04, 12:11 AM
Girl=time... please cont. from this deduction. :)
:biggrin: Hey look what I found! (http://secularity.com) :biggrin:
jimmy p
May17-04, 07:15 AM
Jeez we may be lonely, testosterone filled individuals but we arent desperate!!! yet.
ps. Still going with asexual reproduction. No noticeable changes and no way near as enjoyable as its counterpart.
Ebolamonk3y
May17-04, 07:07 PM
I thought football in England was > girls...
Ebolamonk3y
May17-04, 07:07 PM
If that assumption is true... Get into football Jimmy!
jimmy p
May18-04, 02:01 PM
huh??? Football is a game for Ruffians trying to be gentlemen. But it is class. I rule at it, just ask Andy.
i_wish_i_was_smart
May18-04, 02:23 PM
Jeez we may be lonely, testosterone filled individuals but we arent desperate!!! yet.
ps. Still going with asexual reproduction. No noticeable changes and no way near as enjoyable as its counterpart.
hahahahahahahahahahaha, so true so very very true
i have read the whole thread and i have had simular experiences, and the tips were great and I'm single, have been for 18 years minus a few weeks, no point geting one here i'm moving in a month, next school year the women better watch out cuz i'm a comin hahaha
Ebolamonk3y
May18-04, 05:11 PM
Football in england land is Soccer right?
jimmy p
May18-04, 05:33 PM
England land?? "Soccer" is the American for football. FOOTball is called that because people use their feet. Which is what we do in football.
FOOTball is called that because people use their feet. Which is what we do in football.
That sounds absurd to me! :grumpy: Why not try the extremely crude American football where contact with the ball by the foot occurs only 1% of the time and the "ball" is oval!
(Taking the Theodore Roosevelt way out) Our way is clearly more logical and if you disagree, you're a liar! :tongue:
EDIT: If it were up to me American football would be called by the lame name of "handoval"
EDIT: If it were up to me American football would be called by the lame name of "handoval"
Are you ready for some handoval?!?!
I don't know, it doesn't sound as good when you try to sing the song to it. But, you also have to rule in that they use their hands to slap their teammates around. Wait a minute, how did the discussion of football (soccer) get started in a thread concerning girls? Oh, I think I know. They must closely related somehow.
Ebolamonk3y
May19-04, 12:45 AM
http://rock103.thedataco.com/video/rock103/foreplay.wmv
Explaination. :) Beer commercial, Austrillian. Little kids go away! Some innuendo.
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