Anyone know of a textbook for this? [Archive]

Tim Walters

Apr19-04, 01:29 PM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>When a compressed spring is released, it can\'t expand all along its\nlength simultaneously. The removal of the compression force must pass\nalong the length of the spring as a wave. Presumably that wave must also\nbounce back in the other direction. Can anyone recommend a good textbook\nwhich examines the detailed behaviour of waves in springs, etc.?\n\nThanks in advance.\n\nTim Walters\n(For e-mail, rubout Planck\'s constant)\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>When a compressed spring is released, it can't expand all along its
length simultaneously. The removal of the compression force must pass
along the length of the spring as a wave. Presumably that wave must also
bounce back in the other direction. Can anyone recommend a good textbook
which examines the detailed behaviour of waves in springs, etc.?

Thanks in advance.

Tim Walters
(For e-mail, rubout Planck's constant)

Doug Goncz

Apr21-04, 03:23 PM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>I have a book on wave motion in storage. I\'m sorry I can\'t pull it right out.\n\nYou\'re looking for wave motion in elastic media. Since the medium is a\ncompressed spring, start with a mechanical engineering text.\n\nGood luck, Tim\n\n\n\nYours,\n\nDoug Goncz ( ftp://users.aol.com/DGoncz/ )\n\nMy physics project at NVCC:\nhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=dgoncz&scoring=d plus\n"bicycle", "fluorescent", "inverter", "flywheel", "ultracapacitor", etc.\nin the search box\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>I have a book on wave motion in storage. I'm sorry I can't pull it right out.

You're looking for wave motion in elastic media. Since the medium is a
compressed spring, start with a mechanical engineering text.

Good luck, Tim

Yours,

Doug Goncz ( ftp://users.aol.com/DGoncz/ )

My physics project at NVCC:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=dgoncz&scoring=d plus
"bicycle", "fluorescent", "inverter", "flywheel", "ultracapacitor", etc.
in the search box

Gentil Correa

Apr23-04, 03:25 PM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>Tim Walters <twalters@thelefonica.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.1aed17d9ba829459989680@news.alt.net>...\ n> When a compressed spring is released, it can\'t expand all along its\n> length simultaneously. The removal of the compression force must pass\n> along the length of the spring as a wave. Presumably that wave must also\n> bounce back in the other direction. Can anyone recommend a good textbook\n> which examines the detailed behaviour of waves in springs, etc.?\n>\n> Thanks in advance.\n>\n> Tim Walters\n> (For e-mail, rubout Planck\'s constant)\n\nTry the best: Landau, Lifshitz, "Theory of Elasticity", 3rd edition.\n\nAn easier one: Philip Morse, "Vibrations and Sound"\n\nBest wishes.\n\nG.\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>Tim Walters <twalters@thelefonica.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.1aed17d9ba829459989680@news.alt.net>...
> When a compressed spring is released, it can't expand all along its
> length simultaneously. The removal of the compression force must pass
> along the length of the spring as a wave. Presumably that wave must also
> bounce back in the other direction. Can anyone recommend a good textbook
> which examines the detailed behaviour of waves in springs, etc.?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Tim Walters
> (For e-mail, rubout Planck's constant)

Try the best: Landau, Lifshitz, "Theory of Elasticity", 3rd edition.

An easier one: Philip Morse, "Vibrations and Sound"

Best wishes.

G.

Mark Folsom

Apr24-04, 11:19 AM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>"Tim Walters" <twalters@thelefonica.net> wrote in message\nnews:MPG.1aed17d9ba829459989680@news.alt. net...\n> When a compressed spring is released, it can\'t expand all along its\n> length simultaneously. The removal of the compression force must pass\n> along the length of the spring as a wave. Presumably that wave must also\n> bounce back in the other direction. Can anyone recommend a good textbook\n> which examines the detailed behaviour of waves in springs, etc.?\n>\n> Thanks in advance.\n>\n> Tim Walters\n> (For e-mail, rubout Planck\'s constant)\n>\n\nFor a treatment of surging in springs, you might look at Machine Design by\nDeutschman, Michels, Wilson (or successors). For a general introduction to\nelastic waves in solids, try Theory of Elasticity, Timoshenko and Goodier.\nYou can model the spring as if it were a solid bar by using its compliance\nand mass per unit length and pretending it has unit area.\n\nMark Folsom\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>"Tim Walters" <twalters@thelefonica.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1aed17d9ba829459989680@news.alt.net...
> When a compressed spring is released, it can't expand all along its
> length simultaneously. The removal of the compression force must pass
> along the length of the spring as a wave. Presumably that wave must also
> bounce back in the other direction. Can anyone recommend a good textbook
> which examines the detailed behaviour of waves in springs, etc.?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Tim Walters
> (For e-mail, rubout Planck's constant)
>

For a treatment of surging in springs, you might look at Machine Design by
Deutschman, Michels, Wilson (or successors). For a general introduction to
elastic waves in solids, try Theory of Elasticity, Timoshenko and Goodier.
You can model the spring as if it were a solid bar by using its compliance
and mass per unit length and pretending it has unit area.

Mark Folsom

benny

Apr28-04, 01:44 AM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>Check the Dover book on wave theory from Schroedinger. The\nfundamentals are same as those used in the engineering books.\n\nBen\n\n"Mark Folsom" <folsom_snip_man@redshift.com> wrote in message news:<108ivhqecps0f7f@corp.supernews.com>...\n> "Tim Walters" <twalters@thelefonica.net> wrote in message\n> news:MPG.1aed17d9ba829459989680@news.alt.net...\n> > When a compressed spring is released, it can\'t expand all along its\n> > length simultaneously. The removal of the compression force must pass\n> > along the length of the spring as a wave. Presumably that wave must also\n> > bounce back in the other direction. Can anyone recommend a good textbook\n> > which examines the detailed behaviour of waves in springs, etc.?\n> >\n> > Thanks in advance.\n> >\n> > Tim Walters\n> > (For e-mail, rubout Planck\'s constant)\n> >\n>\n> For a treatment of surging in springs, you might look at Machine Design by\n> Deutschman, Michels, Wilson (or successors). For a general introduction to\n> elastic waves in solids, try Theory of Elasticity, Timoshenko and Goodier.\n> You can model the spring as if it were a solid bar by using its compliance\n> and mass per unit length and pretending it has unit area.\n>\n> Mark Folsom\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>Check the Dover book on wave theory from Schroedinger. The
fundamentals are same as those used in the engineering books.

Ben

"Mark Folsom" <folsom_snip_man@redshift.com> wrote in message news:<108ivhqecps0f7f@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Tim Walters" <twalters@thelefonica.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1aed17d9ba829459989680@news.alt.net...
> > When a compressed spring is released, it can't expand all along its
> > length simultaneously. The removal of the compression force must pass
> > along the length of the spring as a wave. Presumably that wave must also
> > bounce back in the other direction. Can anyone recommend a good textbook
> > which examines the detailed behaviour of waves in springs, etc.?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Tim Walters
> > (For e-mail, rubout Planck's constant)
> >
>
> For a treatment of surging in springs, you might look at Machine Design by
> Deutschman, Michels, Wilson (or successors). For a general introduction to
> elastic waves in solids, try Theory of Elasticity, Timoshenko and Goodier.
> You can model the spring as if it were a solid bar by using its compliance
> and mass per unit length and pretending it has unit area.
>
> Mark Folsom