gravity and redshift [Archive]

alistair

May3-04, 01:32 PM

greywolf42

May6-04, 12:15 PM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>alistair <alistair@goforit64.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message\nnews:861c1b21.0405030929.32abb913@posting .google.com...\n>\n> In George Luis le Sage\'s theory of pushing gravity the Sun shields the\n> Earth from the flow of gravity particles on one side while the flow on\n> the shaded side is unimpeded, and so the Earth experiences a net force\n> pointing towards the Sun.Would the greater flow of gravity particles\n> on the shaded side of the Earth give a significantly greater redshift\n> for a photon leaving the surface of the Earth and heading to space,\n> than the smaller flow on the other side.\n> I am assuming that the gravity particles heading to the surface of the\n> Earth would collide with the photon and reduce its wavelength.\n\nI believe you mean increase it\'s wavelength, not reduce it.\n\nYou are going beyond Le Sage\'s theory here (which is purely gravitational).\nThere are two possible classes of approach.\n\nFirst (because you seem to have made this assumption), presume a \'photon\'\n*is not* carried by the Le Sagian aether. Second, presume that a \'photon\'\n*is* carried by the Le Sagian aether.\n\nIn the first case, collisions would take place. In the second case, they\nwould not. In both cases, the (slightly) larger momentum flux on the\n\'night\' side of Earth will add a bit more energy/momentum to the light on\nthe night side than on the day side.\n\nThere are derivations of such in "Pushing Gravity", Aperion, 2002\n\n--\ngreywolf42\nubi dubium ibi libertas\n{remove planet for return e-mail}\n\n\n\n\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>alistair <alistair@goforit64.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In George Luis le Sage's theory of pushing gravity the Sun shields the
> Earth from the flow of gravity particles on one side while the flow on
> the shaded side is unimpeded, and so the Earth experiences a net force
> pointing towards the Sun.Would the greater flow of gravity particles
> on the shaded side of the Earth give a significantly greater redshift
> for a photon leaving the surface of the Earth and heading to space,
> than the smaller flow on the other side.
> I am assuming that the gravity particles heading to the surface of the
> Earth would collide with the photon and reduce its wavelength.

I believe you mean increase it's wavelength, not reduce it.

You are going beyond Le Sage's theory here (which is purely gravitational).
There are two possible classes of approach.

First (because you seem to have made this assumption), presume a 'photon'
*is not* carried by the Le Sagian aether. Second, presume that a 'photon'
*is* carried by the Le Sagian aether.

In the first case, collisions would take place. In the second case, they
would not. In both cases, the (slightly) larger momentum flux on the
'night' side of Earth will add a bit more energy/momentum to the light on
the night side than on the day side.

There are derivations of such in "Pushing Gravity", Aperion, 2002

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greywolf42
ubi dubium ibi libertas
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