View Full Version : Would you date a girl with tatoos?
gravenewworld
Jun11-08, 09:38 PM
Me: No way. I don't date girls who look like they should be in a motorcycle gang. Tats on the lower back, near the ankle, on the back of the neck, or on the hip just seem like an annoying trend.
Daniel Y.
Jun11-08, 09:48 PM
I'll date girl because she's fun and intelligent, not because of (or absense of) her tattoo. Judging a girl/not dating her based on a tattoo/piercing and the like is a good way to not get to know someone you might be happy with. But if someone wants to make those sweeping tattoo (or piercing gets a lot of attention) generalizations, then more power to them; I'll make my judgements by getting to know the person, not by their appearance.
WarPhalange
Jun11-08, 09:51 PM
Me: No way. I don't date girls who look like they should be in a motorcycle gang. Tats on the lower back, near the ankle, on the back of the neck, or on the hip just seem like an annoying trend.
So you know a girl for a few weeks and really like her. When you get in bed with her you notice a tattoo some place which is normally clothed or hidden, like mid back or something.
Do you just leave?
gravenewworld
Jun11-08, 09:52 PM
I'll date girl because she's fun and intelligent, not because of (or absense of) her tattoo. Judging a girl/not dating her based on a tattoo/piercing and the like is a good way to not get to know someone you might be happy with. But if someone wants to make those sweeping tattoo (or piercing gets a lot of attention) generalizations, then more power to them; I'll make my judgements by getting to know the person, not by their appearance.
Riiiiiiiiiighhtt.........because I bet you never take into account something like how a girl looks when you try to hit on them because you are the king of chivalry. LOL. Yeah right.
Riiiiiiiiiighhtt.........because I bet you never take into account something like how a girl looks when you try to hit on them because you are the king of chivalry. LOL. Yeah right.
:confused: All physical beauty does is get me to notice a girl -- but I, for one, have absolutely no interest in hitting on a total stranger. And since physical beauty is mostly irrelevant once you know a girl's personality, I really don't understand your point of view.
Moonbear
Jun11-08, 10:06 PM
I would definitely never date a girl with a tattoo. :biggrin: (I prefer men, and while most tattoos are initial turn-offs, I've learned to never say never, since I might get to like one before I see the tattoo, depending where it is.)
DaveC426913
Jun11-08, 10:12 PM
A possibly more relevant question: would you hit on a girl with a tattoo? Hopefully, anyone who gets to the point of the option of dating would have ahd the opp to see a little deeper than skin.
And yes. It would be a real waste to unilaterally rule out so many women before getting to know them (I guess I'm sayin' that tats are no longer a defining criterion.)
IMO, tats, whether they look nice or not, do send a message that this girl is aware of her bod and wants you to be aware of it too. Which is a bit titilating.
I wouldn't mind if someone I dated had a tatoo. Because if you are already dating then you like the person.
I'm very inclined to say no. The day before yesterday I was at the mall and there was a nice tall blonde girl infront of me in line. I checked her out since her back was towards me. She had nice curves on the way down and then BAM a nice green tattoo on her foot. That was a deal breaker.
I wouldn't mind dating a girl with a tattoo. I prefer girls who don't have tattoos though.
Holocene
Jun11-08, 10:39 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with a fairly small tattoo in an inconspicuous location. Large tattoos in prominent locations; would probably keep walking.
gravenewworld
Jun11-08, 10:40 PM
:confused: All physical beauty does is get me to notice a girl -- but I, for one, have absolutely no interest in hitting on a total stranger. And since physical beauty is mostly irrelevant once you know a girl's personality, I really don't understand your point of view.
Would you buy a house that is nice on the inside, but looked completely dilapidated on the outside? Yes? Well good for you, not me. A complete package not only includes the inside, but also the outside.
I'm sorry but the way in which one presents themself says a lot to other people. How you dress, how you look, what body modifications you have, all send a message to people. You may not like it, but that's just the way it is and will always be.
Astronuc
Jun11-08, 10:45 PM
I dated a girl who had a tatoo (flower), but I found out after we started dating. She was a real sweetheart, but she was married, which I also found out after we started dating, so that kind of put a hold on things while she tried to sort out what she wanted to do. That was the women I was seeing before I met the women with whom I've been with for the last 27+ years.
binzing
Jun11-08, 11:29 PM
then BAM a nice green tattoo on her foot. That was a deal breaker.
BFD, its on her foot...
I dated a girl who had a tatoo (flower), but I found out after we started dating. She was a real sweetheart, but she was married, which I also found out after we started dating, so that kind of put a hold on things while she tried to sort out what she wanted to do. That was the women I was seeing before I met the women with whom I've been with for the last 27+ years.
:rofl: Yeah, that whole, "By the way...I'm married..." thing is a real turn-off.
TheStatutoryApe
Jun11-08, 11:37 PM
I've met many very interesting and intelligent women of all sorts. I know a woman who travels all over the world on business and has made presentations to congressional committees that, while I'm unaware of any body mods she may have, dresses up in black vinyl bondage gear and frequents goth industrial clubs. I also know a 50 year old 'biker babe' with a tattoo who knits and is a prof with a phd in anthropology. She also dresses up and goes to goth industrial clubs.
While I often find excessive tattoos and piercings unattractive physically I don't really care as long as they are intelligent interesting women. Some times I even think tattoos and piercings are sexy.
BFD, its on her foot...
What's BFD?
gravenewworld
Jun12-08, 12:12 AM
What's BFD?
"big freakin deal"??
binzing
Jun12-08, 12:24 AM
I prefer f-ing, but thats why I made it an acronym...
I prefer f-ing, but thats why I made it an acronym...
I guess you missed the part about me not liking tattoos?
I also dislike blonde women.
binzing
Jun12-08, 12:52 AM
Well yeah, excessive huge, ugly tattoos are a turn off, but one on her foot? How often are you gonna be looking at her foot (unless you've a foot fetish...)
I also generally find blondes not very good.
loseyourname
Jun12-08, 01:02 AM
I'm not much of a fan of tattoos on the lower body in general, feet included. I don't mind them much overall, though. I've dated a few girls that were tatted up, though never in a major way. A couple even managed to look pretty wholesome anyway. It's all in how she carries it.
Well yeah, excessive huge, ugly tattoos are a turn off, but one on her foot? How often are you gonna be looking at her foot (unless you've a foot fetish...)
I also generally find blondes not very good.
How about standing in a department store with her wearing sandals. Knowing she has a tat, Id be staring at it constantly thinking to myself, 'how stupid of her'.
I know a guy who has a tat that goes around his arm. Every time I see that I cant help but think to myself, yea that makes you a really hard core bad-***.....right.
I know a guy who has a tat that goes around his arm. Every time I see that I cant help but think to myself, yea that makes you a really hard core bad-***.....right.
Those barbed wire tats around the arm are the stupidest things I've ever seen.
EDIT: This would be a good time to link to the old tattoo thread we had.
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=228970&highlight=tattoo
Jimmy Snyder
Jun12-08, 04:59 AM
Definitely, but my wife says I mustn't.
Astronuc
Jun12-08, 07:29 AM
:rofl: Yeah, that whole, "By the way...I'm married..." thing is a real turn-off. Yeah - it was a show stopper. I laughed when she told me, because I expected other men were interested in her since she was quite attractive.
We were sitting in her apartment in the living room/dining room area which had two couches. I sat on one couch, she went to the kitchen to get some drinks, gave me my drink, sat on the other couch and said, "There's something I need to tell you, but I'm not sure. I hope you won't be angry, but . . . ."
All I could do was laugh, and tell her that I wasn't angry, which was true. It was an amusing situation.
She then came over to the same couch and proceeded to tell me her situation.
Since I wasn't looking around for relationships, I told her that I'd wait until she resolved her situation. She was contemplating a divorce, but wanted to see if she could make her marriage work. He husband was in prison (got busted) and was in his 2nd year of a 5 year sentence. :rolleyes: He got out early at the end of the third year. They subsequently divorced, which I found out when I went to see her to tell her that (per her suggestion) I have found someone and was engaged.
Me: No way. I don't date girls who look like they should be in a motorcycle gang. Tats on the lower back, near the ankle, on the back of the neck, or on the hip just seem like an annoying trend.
It would depend on how many, how big, and what the tatoo is. In general, I don't like tatoos. A good looking tatoo is pretty rare.
With some, you wonder why they don't just tatoo the words, "I'm stupid!" somewhere on their body.
Personally, I think tatooing your address and phone number on the bottom of your foot might be useful. It could come in handy if you have too much to drink.
mcknia07
Jun12-08, 09:55 AM
Personally, I think tatooing your address and phone number on the bottom of your foot might be useful. It could come in handy if you have too much to drink.
I think this is a great idea, but that's another reason, why I think you shouldn't drink, lol.
Thats only a good idea if you take your shoes and socks off before you collapse in a drunken coma. I suggest you tattoo that information on your forehead if you're that type of person.
Averagesupernova
Jun12-08, 10:07 AM
I'm very inclined to say no. The day before yesterday I was at the mall and there was a nice tall blonde girl infront of me in line. I checked her out since her back was towards me. She had nice curves on the way down and then BAM a nice green tattoo on her foot. That was a deal breaker.
Could be her way of sorting out guys who have what she considers to be 'hangups' about inconsequential things. I find it interesting that in this post you refer to her as a 'nice tall blonde girl' and a few posts later you state that you dislike blonde women. So if she had not had the tattoo and you chatted her up and dated her how long would it have taken you to realize that you don't like blonde women and sent her packing? Or would the nice curves and long legs make up for it? I'd say she's lucky she had the tattoo.
Chi Meson
Jun12-08, 10:10 AM
My wife has a tattoo of a snake that starts on the little toe of her left foot. It spirals up her leg, then around her torso and the finally around her right arm, with the tongue "licking" the back of her right hand.
No, not really, but it would be cool! She has often stated she wanted a tattoo (not the snake I described, more like one of those "Celtic braids" around her wrist or ankle) and I couldn't possibly see how that would change how I see her.
A pierced eyebrow though...ooh, that makes my eyes water just looking at them.
mirroredfire
Jun12-08, 10:11 AM
I actually use a tattoo machine every once in a while, so no.
Unless its tribal.
I like people who arnt scared to get tatoos. so yeh its good
Could be her way of sorting out guys who have what she considers to be 'hangups' about inconsequential things. I find it interesting that in this post you refer to her as a 'nice tall blonde girl' and a few posts later you state that you dislike blonde women. So if she had not had the tattoo and you chatted her up and dated her how long would it have taken you to realize that you don't like blonde women and sent her packing? Or would the nice curves and long legs make up for it? I'd say she's lucky she had the tattoo.
How long, after I slept with her. I'll give you a silly answer to your silly question. Ok, Ill post more seriously an answer to your question in a bit.
Like with everything - it all depends on what, where and how much. Maori face tattoo will be too much, but something less blatant won't be a problem. It can be even sexy :wink:
maverick_starstrider
Jun12-08, 11:08 AM
Wow, this seems pretty unanimous. I however thing tats are hot (well most tats). Of course I have a darker look myself. (blond also happens to be my least favorite hair colour).
NeoDevin
Jun12-08, 11:24 AM
My wife has 3 tatoos, none of which are visible when she's fully clothed. I really like one of them, but the other two I'm not so fond of.
DaveC426913
Jun12-08, 12:09 PM
My wife has 3 tatoos, none of which are visible when she's fully clothed. I really like one of them, but the other two I'm not so fond of.
Biff SkullCrusher 4ever
NY Giants (The Team) 4ever
NeoDevin 4ever
Which two don't you like?
:biggrin:
NeoDevin
Jun12-08, 12:47 PM
Biff SkullCrusher 4ever
NY Giants (The Team) 4ever
NeoDevin 4ever
Which two don't you like?
:biggrin:
I didn't know you knew my wife.
Biff Skullcrusher is Dave's real name.
ehrenfest
Jun12-08, 12:59 PM
I'll date girl because she's fun and intelligent, not because of (or absense of) her tattoo.
That is exactly the same as my opinion. But there is definitely a superstrong correlation between having tattoos and being unintelligent, so I would need sufficient evidence to the contrary before I dated someone with tattoos.
mirroredfire
Jun12-08, 01:00 PM
I don't think id even care if there were tats on their face either as long as they were well done and looked good.
That is exactly the same as my opinion. But there is definitely a superstrong correlation between having tattoos and being unintelligent, so I would need sufficient evidence to the contrary before I dated someone with tattoos.
What? Have you got any peer reviewed articles to hand to back that up?
Biff SkullCrusher 4ever
NY Giants (The Team) 4ever
NeoDevin 4ever
Which two don't you like?
:biggrin:
Well, I'd prefer:
Cincinnati Royals 4ever
Kansas City Kings 4ever
Omaha/Kansas City Kings 4ever
Sacramento Kings 4ever
I always felt sorry for that guy in the 1996 Cleveland Browns photo that had a Broncos tatoo clearly visible. Browns fans hate the Broncos.
If she was old enough to have a NY Giants or a Brooklyn Dodgers tatoo, I probably wouldn't be interested.
In other words, tatooing a sports team on your body is a really dumb idea (unless it's a tatoo of the only NBA team to be founded in California - that would be cool.)
DaveC426913
Jun12-08, 01:27 PM
Well, I'd prefer:
Cincinnati Royals 4ever
Kansas City Kings 4ever
Omaha/Kansas City Kings 4ever
Sacramento Kings 4ever
Uh. I think I'd be turned off enough if she were sleeping with one sports team. If she were sleeping with four sports teams, well... I guess they'd have to invent a new term for that.
ehrenfest
Jun12-08, 01:48 PM
What? Have you got any peer reviewed articles to hand to back that up?
No, that was just my personal observations. Of course, this depends on how you define intelligence. I kind of included academic achievement and academic motivation in my definition, not just built-in IQ or whatever. So what I meant was more like "sophistication".
moe darklight
Jun12-08, 03:36 PM
I don't have a problem with tattoos. As long as she's not all covered in tattoos, a few small ones here and there I think can even be cute. I especially like those tattoos some girls get on the small of their back.
These would definitely be a turn-off though:
Neck tattoos— god. what were you thinking.
Face tattoos— I doubt I even have to explain why this isn't a good idea... unless you're out to prove you's a thug.
Back tattoos, or on the back of the shoulder— I don't know why, but it makes girls look manly to me.
Piercings— I hate piercings; they are just disgusting. have you ever seen a piercing up close? ... :yuck: so gross. I was with this girl once who had a tongue-piercing. Such a turn-off. I don't want some slimy metal ball rattling in my mouth when I kiss somebody.
I really hope those 4 go out of style soon because they are all horrid ideas.
I don't want some slimy metal ball rattling in my mouth when I kiss somebody.
Errrrmmm... No, on the second thought, I will leave that uncommented. Let it be just metal on the tongue.
moe darklight
Jun12-08, 04:23 PM
Errrrmmm... No, on the second thought, I will leave that uncommeneted. Let it be just metal on the tongue.
I definitely could've worded it better :rofl:
binzing
Jun12-08, 04:34 PM
A really good friend of mine has a lip piercing. It's not really ugly or anything...
I definitely could've worded it better :rofl:
Feel free. English is my second language.
I have a niece in her mid-30's who looks at least a decade younger. She is petite, cute, smart, and funny, and she's raising 3 daughters to be mature, respectful, and responsible. She has a floral spray tattooed across the small of her back and it looks nice on her.
I have a niece in her mid-30's who looks at least a decade younger. She is petite, cute, smart, and funny, and she's raising 3 daughters to be mature, respectful, and responsible. She has a floral spray tattooed across the small of her back and it looks nice on her.
Of course, thats a matter of personal opinion. :wink:
Of course, thats a matter of personal opinion. :wink:If you saw this lady while she was delivering the mail, you'd be smitten and wonder how somebody so young got to be a permanent mail-carrier. If you spoke with her, you'd be charmed by her combination of ready humor and intelligence. If all that can be spoiled by a tattoo (once you finally saw it), I'd call that a sign of immaturity and insecurity. Maybe it's a cultural bias or some kind misguided generalization about women who get tattoos, but it is wrong.
I have a friend who has a tattoo and multiple ear-piercings and she is a veterinary assistant and one of the sweetest people you'd ever meet. Another sweet younger woman is an organic gardener with a floral tattoo on her ankle. These are responsible working women living in rural central Maine, and they are not cheap, promiscuous, or morally compromised. Maybe you're looking in the wrong places for women or are using your preconceptions to reject them without knowing them.
If you saw this lady while she was delivering the mail, you'd be smitten and wonder how somebody so young got to be a permanent mail-carrier. If you spoke with her, you'd be charmed by her combination of ready humor and intelligence. If all that can be spoiled by a tattoo (once you finally saw it), I'd call that a sign of immaturity and insecurity. Maybe it's a cultural bias or some kind misguided generalization about women who get tattoos, but it is wrong.
I have a friend who has a tattoo and multiple ear-piercings and she is a veterinary assistant and one of the sweetest people you'd ever meet. Another sweet younger woman is an organic gardener with a floral tattoo on her ankle. These are responsible working women living in rural central Maine, and they are not cheap, promiscuous, or morally compromised. Maybe you're looking in the wrong places for women or are using your preconceptions to reject them without knowing them.
Im sure these are all very very nice ladies. But im not dating them. There is not misguided about it. Its called preference. I can also find equally nice and smart women that dont have tattoos on them.
mattmns
Jun12-08, 06:01 PM
I'd prefer no tattoos, but as long as it is nothing too "ridiculous" then it'd probably be alright.
Im sure these are all very very nice ladies. But im not dating them. There is not misguided about it. Its called preference. I can also find equally nice and smart women that dont have tattoos on them.You recently called lower-back tattoos "tramp stamps" and that is an unfortunate characterization that demeans the women who have them, including my niece. A nice floral tattoo in a place that is normally covered during working hours, but can be seen when wearing more revealing clothing, bathing suits, etc, is not a sign that a women is a tramp. It is a sign that she has decided to get a body decoration, but in a place that is easily concealed under most circumstances.
That is exactly the same as my opinion. But there is definitely a superstrong correlation between having tattoos and being unintelligent, so I would need sufficient evidence to the contrary before I dated someone with tattoos.
Really? I haven't seen it. I have seen a correlation between girls who have well thought out tattoos and intelligence though.
You recently called lower-back tattoos "tramp stamps" and that is an unfortunate characterization that demeans the women who have them, including my niece. A nice floral tattoo in a place that is normally covered during working hours, but can be seen when wearing more revealing clothing, bathing suits, etc, is not a sign that a women is a tramp. It is a sign that she has decided to get a body decoration, but in a place that is easily concealed under most circumstances.
The thing is though, a large portion of women wear jeans and shirts so that a large portion of their back is revealed, so that the tattoo is always in plain view. I call them tramp stamps all the time, but I don't really mean anything by it. Everyone I know, including girls who have them, refer to them as tramp stamps. Although I do like the term *** antlers a bit more :biggrin:. I should add that my friends who have tramp stamps are not slutty and the tattoos are done in good taste.
EDIT: Haha I just remember when I saw a girl have a tramp stamp that said "BARBIE", in pink and purple. I call that a tramp stamp, I don't care who ya are.
binzing
Jun12-08, 06:35 PM
You recently called lower-back tattoos "tramp stamps" and that is an unfortunate characterization that demeans the women who have them, including my niece. A nice floral tattoo in a place that is normally covered during working hours, but can be seen when wearing more revealing clothing, bathing suits, etc, is not a sign that a women is a tramp. It is a sign that she has decided to get a body decoration, but in a place that is easily concealed under most circumstances.
No not really, if I saw her tattoo I wouldn't think that cause its floral, and artsy. Now, for example, my Gifted teacher's tramp stamp is definitely that, it's not artsy and it looks tacky, aslo it was way way lower than the "small of the back".
You recently called lower-back tattoos "tramp stamps" and that is an unfortunate characterization that demeans the women who have them, including my niece. A nice floral tattoo in a place that is normally covered during working hours, but can be seen when wearing more revealing clothing, bathing suits, etc, is not a sign that a women is a tramp. It is a sign that she has decided to get a body decoration, but in a place that is easily concealed under most circumstances.
Well, of course not. I just hate them. Obviously there not really tramps. But thats what I think when I see one. OK, maybe not tramp. But I she def. goes down the scale in terms of being classy. Here's why. There is NOTHING that awesome, cool, or important that I can even begin to imagine that I have to get inked onto my skin. When I see people with tattoos, I say. What, is it really that cool to get a small lizzard on your foot? To have a good/bad angel wing on each side of your back? To get a design on your lower back?
That tells me a lot about a person. If they were from a village in africa and had a tribal tattoo, I'd say cool I understand. Its your culture.
When you have barbed wire around your bicept,...........yeah.....o-kayyyy....
Anyone found with those are also considered "tramps", at least, in my generation.
Tramp stamp isn't some localized term.
That tells me a lot about a person. If they were from a village in africa and had a tribal tattoo, I'd say cool I understand. Its your culture.
When you have barbed wire around your bicept,...........yeah.....o-kayyyy....There aren't that many "t"s in bicep, Cy. I had a friend in college from Kenya who had tribal scarring on his forehead. It was ritual scarification, healed open with ash from a cow-dung fire. Bernie was a cool guy and I liked him a lot. His parents were officials in the government of Kenya, and some of his brothers had gotten back to the tribal ceremonies and some had not.
I have been riding Harleys for over 30 years, and have never felt the urge to get inked, but I never disrespect any of my friends who make that choice, nor their ladies. Getting inked is a personal decision. I have a close friend who is the best friend of the biggest inker in Pittsburgh, and his entire upper body is covered with with dragons, unicorns, Hindu demons, etc, etc. I love him without reserve, and I cannot possibly accept some gender-based standard that brands females with tattoos as inferior.
There aren't that many "t"s in bicep, Cy. I had a friend in college from Kenya who had tribal scarring on his forehead. It was ritual scarification, healed open with ash from a cow-dung fire. Bernie was a cool guy and I liked him a lot. His parents were officials in the government of Kenya, and some of his brothers had gotten back to the tribal ceremonies and some had not.
I have been riding Harleys for over 30 years, and have never felt the urge to get inked, but I never disrespect any of my friends who make that choice, nor their ladies. Getting inked is a personal decision. I have a close friend who is the best friend of the biggest inker in Pittsburgh, and his entire upper body is covered with with dragons, unicorns, Hindu demons, etc, etc. I love him without reserve, and I cannot possibly accept some gender-based standard that brands females with tattoos as inferior.
I dont either. I know lots of very, very, very, nice people who have ink. I personally find it to be stupid though. Its like those goth kids with the ear spacers. Have you seen that lately? Its supposed to be like those african lip rings. You can fit a big magic marker through their ear lobes! These kids ARE dumb, and crying for attention. Look at me, I can stick three fingers through my ears! Ahhhh, so thats why its in one ear, out the other with you.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1385/7273059/13873771/209934644.jpg
LADIES, HES SINGLE!!!
I dated a girl with serious (but not terribly extensive or always-visible) body art once. We actually got along really well, had a lot of fun, and it ended amicably (we were young and not terribly serious). She was an engineering student, I was a natural sciences student, so we also could bond over problem sets and crazy stuff going on in labs.
Of course, it didn't hurt that she otherwise looked like Rogue from the X-Men comics (not the movie). :wink:
mcknia07
Jun12-08, 08:22 PM
Eww, Cy, that pic is kind of nasty, no offense to him, but EWWW, and no thanks!!! LOL
Moonbear
Jun12-08, 08:35 PM
I also dislike blonde women.
Oops, did I accidentally ban Cyrus? o:)
The thing with tattoos is that a person getting one does so to send some sort of message, either in the theme of the tattoo or in just the process of getting one. Often the message is either immature rebellion or caving to peer pressure, at least that's how I see it. So, those ideas are inconsistent with my views in life, and that is a turn-off. As I said earlier, never say never. Some guy might convince me that his small tattoo has a really specific meaning, and then I might consider the message he's sending is more thoughtful than the people who get tattoos because they're the fad, and it wouldn't be so much of a turn-off. But, when someone has something like Chinese characters as tattoos and can't even remember what they mean, bleck, that tells me he's just stupid.
I confirmed with my daughter, they are indeed called "tramp stamps" and are looked down on by her peers.
Hey, if someone wants to get one, that's up to them, but they have to realize that although it may be acceptable in their social circle, there is a negative stigma attached to them in the majority of society, it seems.
GeorginaS
Jun12-08, 09:25 PM
I suppose I'd never know if these other hallmarks didn't go with them, but I frequently see that lower back tattoo on young women who also wear really low rise pants and tops that don't even come close to meeting the waistline of their pants. So I've been treated to a really good, frequent look at their tattoo, and generally their underwear as well, because that sticks up and/or shows every time they move or bend also.
It's a bit much, in my estimation. Now, when I was younger, I was prone to some pretty interesting fashion choices, but none of them included permanently marking my body.
I'm not a fan of tattoos on men or women.
I confirmed with my daughter, they are indeed called "tramp stamps" and are looked down on by her peers.
It seems to me that the issue with tattooing (whether you get it or not) has to do with conformity. And to fit in one way or another because of what other people will think of you.
It seems to me that the issue with tattooing (whether you get it or not) has to do with conformity. And to fit in one way or another because of what other people will think of you.Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different, although it is a way of calling unnecessary attention to yourself which means there is some issue there. Even if it is somewhere that can't be seen in public, you probably put it there to "impress" or "shock" people on a more intimate level.
If you will not date an intelligent, funny, sweet, and attractive female simply because she has a low profile tattoo, then you might not like girls in general. Also, would you make her wear certain clothes in public as well to enhance your image together. The whole idea seams entirely superficial.
Moonbear
Jun12-08, 10:40 PM
If you will not date an intelligent, funny, sweet, and attractive female simply because she has a low profile tattoo, then you might not like girls in general. Also, would you make her wear certain clothes in public as well to enhance your image together. The whole idea seams entirely superficial.
Why? If someone doesn't like tattoos or the idea of permanently marring your body with ink, that doesn't mean they don't like women in general, it just means they don't find tattoos attractive.
And, no, people shouldn't make another wear particular clothes in public, but the clothing one chooses also reflects their personality, so if you don't like the way someone dresses, you might not be very compatible. Doesn't mean you couldn't get along as friends, but for dating, you want more compatibility than that. I won't date a guy who wears a baseball cap all the time, or one worn sideways, or pants slouching down to his knees, or dirty ripped t-shirts unless he's only wearing it to do yardwork, or orange plaid pants and purple striped shirts together. Any of those styles tell me something about the image that person wants to portray about themselves, and none of that is compatible with my appraoch to life.
Why? If someone doesn't like tattoos or the idea of permanently marring your body with ink, that doesn't mean they don't like women in general, it just means they don't find tattoos attractive.
And, no, people shouldn't make another wear particular clothes in public, but the clothing one chooses also reflects their personality, so if you don't like the way someone dresses, you might not be very compatible. Doesn't mean you couldn't get along as friends, but for dating, you want more compatibility than that. I won't date a guy who wears a baseball cap all the time, or one worn sideways, or pants slouching down to his knees, or dirty ripped t-shirts unless he's only wearing it to do yardwork, or orange plaid pants and purple striped shirts together. Any of those styles tell me something about the image that person wants to portray about themselves, and none of that is compatible with my appraoch to life.
I respect your opinion, but it is the girl who you are supposed to be attractive to. Also, I am saying that if she has a great personality, but the tattoo makes you dislike her, then what is the point of the judgment you would be making about her having a bad personality because of a tattoo. It just doesn't make sense unless you care how strangers will judge her, and you by association which is kind of superficial.
Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different, although it is a way of calling unnecessary attention to yourself which means there is some issue there. Even if it is somewhere that can't be seen in public, you probably put it there to "impress" or "shock" people on a more intimate level.
I suppose yes for a certain subset of people. People can be insecure if they don't have a tattoo too.
But even if someone is insecure, they might just need a kick start from you to rid of their insecurity, you never know.
TheStatutoryApe
Jun12-08, 10:56 PM
Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different, although it is a way of calling unnecessary attention to yourself which means there is some issue there. Even if it is somewhere that can't be seen in public, you probably put it there to "impress" or "shock" people on a more intimate level.
It seems a rather superficial way of looking at it. I guess the average woman suffers from low self esteem? In order to 'fit in' or 'conform' she wears make up, push up/water/underwire/whatever bras, highheels, fake nails, stockings, pantyhose.... I could go on all day. Everyone alters their appearance in some fashion or another. All sorts of people try to get others attention whether it's with a tattoo, make up, or cleavage does it really matter? Does it really automatically point to some 'issue' the person has just because they have a piercing or tattoo any more than it they just like wearing certain types of clothing or doing their makeup in a certain way?
I respect your opinion, but it is the girl who you are supposed to be attractive to. Also, I am saying that if she has a great personality, but the tattoo makes you dislike her, then what is the point of the judgment you would be making about her having a bad personality because of a tattoo. It just doesn't make sense unless you care how strangers will judge her, and you by association which is kind of superficial.That doesn't even make any sense. Why are you supposed to be attracted to someone you aren't interested in?
It seems a rather superficial way of looking at it. I guess the average woman suffers from low self esteem? In order to 'fit in' or 'conform' she wears make up, push up/water/underwire/whatever bras, highheels, fake nails, stockings, pantyhose.... I could go on all day. Everyone alters their appearance in some fashion or another. All sorts of people try to get others attention whether it's with a tattoo, make up, or cleavage does it really matter? Does it really automatically point to some 'issue' the person has just because they have a piercing or tattoo any more than it they just like wearing certain types of clothing or doing their makeup in a certain way?I consider people that think they are judged solely by appearance to have issues, yes.
There is a reason why expensive clothing is worth it, better fit, lasts longer. But there are definitely fashion whores.
Wearing a pair of expensive shoes and permanently tatooing shoes onto your feet are definitely two different things. I don't do either.
If you will not date an intelligent, funny, sweet, and attractive female simply because she has a low profile tattoo, then you might not like girls in general. Also, would you make her wear certain clothes in public as well to enhance your image together. The whole idea seams entirely superficial.
Errr, isnt that the point. They ARENT attractive with a tattoo.
It seems a rather superficial way of looking at it. I guess the average woman suffers from low self esteem? In order to 'fit in' or 'conform' she wears make up, push up/water/underwire/whatever bras, highheels, fake nails, stockings, pantyhose.... I could go on all day. Everyone alters their appearance in some fashion or another. All sorts of people try to get others attention whether it's with a tattoo, make up, or cleavage does it really matter? Does it really automatically point to some 'issue' the person has just because they have a piercing or tattoo any more than it they just like wearing certain types of clothing or doing their makeup in a certain way?
Because of the severity of what they are doing, IMO YES.
Women who get tit jobs also have issues, for instance.
TheStatutoryApe
Jun12-08, 11:14 PM
I consider people that think they are judged solely by appearance to have issues, yes.
There is a reason why expensive clothing is worth it, better fit, lasts longer. But there are definitely fashion whores.
Wearing a pair of expensive shoes and permanently tatooing shoes onto your feet are definitely two different things. I don't do either.
My point was (sorry that I didn't convey it well) that maybe, since everyone alters their appearance in various ways to 'conform' or 'fit in', getting a tattoo isn't necessarily any more a sign of having esteem issues.
Because of the severity of what they are doing, IMO YES.
Women who get tit jobs also have issues, for instance.
So a one time superficial body modification is somehow more severe than years of going through a daily ritual of altering ones appearance? A ritual that is often tedious and by some even considered torturous (high heels/ underwires/ waxing)?
My point was (sorry that I didn't convey it well) that maybe, since everyone alters their appearance in various ways to 'conform' or 'fit in', getting a tattoo isn't necessarily any more a sign of having esteem issues.
So a one time superficial body modification is somehow more severe than years of going through a daily ritual of altering ones appearance? A ritual that is often tedious and by some even considered torturous (high heels/ underwires/ waxing)?It boils down to what is socially acceptable in your "world". In the professional world I live in, it is considered part of grooming for a woman to wear *subtle* makeup. You don't go to the office with purple sparkly eyeshadow or black lipstick.
If you go back and read what *I* said, Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different.
If you are a slave to fashion trends, then yes, it's a self esteem issue. You can dress nicely without drawing undue attention to yourself.
I guess I meant physically attractive, if you are not attracted in a sophisticated way to them because of the tattoo, then that is another story, but even then, it would not be very sophisticated of a person to be that shallow in their reasoning.
I guess I meant physically attractive, if you are not attracted in a sophisticated way to them because of the tattoo, then that is another story, but even then, it would not be very sophisticated of a person to be that shallow in their reasoning.
That makes no sense. I dont like fat women. Does that mean im not sophisticated in my reasoning? It means I have my own taste.
I like tall brunettes with a nice face and nice skin. Nice skin is VERY attractive. That means NO F'in tattoos on her.
So a one time superficial body modification is somehow more severe than years of going through a daily ritual of altering ones appearance? A ritual that is often tedious and by some even considered torturous (high heels/ underwires/ waxing)?
"torturous?" ......no.
How does one alter their appearance by taking a shower, wearing cologne, and combing their hair.
That makes no sense. I dont like fat women. Does that mean im not sophisticated in my reasoning? It means I have my own taste.
I like tall brunettes with a nice face and nice skin. Nice skin is VERY attractive. That means NO F'in tattoos on her.
If you were attracted to fat women in a physical way, but you thought that being fat makes them stupid so didn't like them automatically, then sort of, but that is another bag of potato chips.
If you were attracted to fat women in a physical way, but you thought that being fat makes them stupid so didn't like them automatically, then sort of, but that is another bag of potato chips.
WHY!? I can be attracted to a nice tall brunette with a tattoo, and I might not get along with her. Thats no different than me rejecting her becasue of her tattoo!
Selection is selection. PERIOD. If you dont satisfy at least x,y,z you can take a hike.
WHY!? I can be attracted to a nice tall brunette with a tattoo, and I might not get along with her. Thats no different than me rejecting her becasue of her tattoo!
Selection is selection. PERIOD. If you dont satisfy at least x,y,z you can take a hike.
Right, but then that would make it neither a sophisticated reason nor a physical attraction reason which doesn't make sense to me unless it is for superficial reasons.
Maybe you can have any women you want, and so you can search the world for a perfectly fine one that has no blemishes or whatever, so if that is the case then that is cool, but if you are turning down who would be your best choice if she didn't have a blemish, then that is different.
TheStatutoryApe
Jun13-08, 12:13 AM
If you go back and read what *I* said, Tatooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different
You censor yourself...
atooing your body in order to "conform" or "fit in" is a sign of low self esteem. If you do it because you like it, that's different, although it is a way of calling unnecessary attention to yourself which means there is some issue there. Even if it is somewhere that can't be seen in public, you probably put it there to "impress" or "shock" people on a more intimate level.
And my point of contention was with regard to the necessity of there being some 'issue' with the person with a tattoo. I'm sure we can just agree to disagree but really I've seen no evidence that people with tattoos all have, or are even just more likely to have, issues.
How does one alter their appearance by taking a shower, wearing cologne, and combing their hair.
I was more refering to women since they, on average, are the best example of someone going to lengths to alter their appearance for acceptance in society at large. But men do it too. We comb our hair, wear certain clothes, shave, trim ect..
I'd just like to know how getting a tattoo is so much more of an indelible mark upon a person's psyche than all of the little things they do on a daily basis to maintain a certain appearance? Especially with regard to women. Even just sitting in front of a mirror to do make-up every day has to have a greater psychological effect on someone than a tattoo that they probably don't even think about most of the time.
Right, but then that would make it neither a sophisticated reason nor a physical attraction reason which doesn't make sense to me unless it is for superficial reasons.
Of course its superficial. Why is that a bad thing? I dont like fat girls. That too is superficial.
Its completely an 'attraction reason'.
Of course its superficial. Why is that a bad thing? I dont like fat girls. That too is superficial.
Its completely an 'attraction reason'.
Yeah, but I view that as a different bag of potato chips. For one, you cannot be low profile fat. Secondly, it depends on whether you aren't physically attracted to them or other. The way I view it is that you are only punishing yourself if you dismiss an awesome women because she has a blemish. I cannot understand how a low profile tattoo could affect s-xual attraction, at least for me, but then again some people are afraid of clowns, so who knows? I guess whatever makes you happy works best.
Yeah, but I view that as a different bag of potato chips. For one, you cannot be low profile fat. Secondly, it depends on whether you aren't physically attracted to them or other. The way I view it is that you are only punishing yourself if you dismiss an awesome women because she has a blemish. I cannot understand how a low profile tattoo could affect s-xual attraction, at least for me, but then again some people are afraid of clowns, so who knows? I guess whatever makes you happy works best.
A tattoo is not a belmish. Its a CHOICE someone makes to do to their body. Her being 'awesome' is meaningless. How do you know she is awesome? For all you know, she could be someone you dont get along with AND have a tattoo.
I'm very picky about women. Tattoos ant gonna fly with me.
A tattoo is not a belmish. Its a CHOICE someone makes to do to their body. Her being 'awesome' is meaningless. How do you know she is awesome? For all you know, she could be someone you dont get along with AND have a tattoo.
I'm very picky about women. Tattoos ant gonna fly with me.
Or she could be the hottest girl you ever have seen who is funny and intelligent, but then she happened to be wearing flip flops and had a rose tattoo on her foot, and so you were repulsed. Just because your afraid of clowns doesn't mean you shouldn't go to parties.
That is a good quote, I just made it up. Maybe I should add it to my signature.
Or she could be the hottest girls you ever have seen who is funny and intelligent, but then she happened to be wearing flip flops and had a rose tattoo on her foot, and so you were repulsed. Just because your afraid of clowns doesn't mean you shouldn't go to parties.
I wouldnt say 'replused' but turned off by it - annoyed. It says a lot about her as a person that is very NEGATIVE in my eyes.
Cant sleep, clowns will eat me.....cant sleep, clowns will eat me.........cant sleep, clowns will eat me :bugeye:
You could always put a paper bag over her foot when your in the sack.
You could always put a paper bag over her foot when your in the sack.
Kinda awkward when its over your shoulder! Yeahhhhhhhhh, did you get the TPS report. Wake up AHHHHHHHHHH.
Its not the tattoo itself. Its the mindset, why did you get something so stupid permanently put on your foot...that I cant wrap my head around.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/bpenry/Lumberg.jpg
-Love that movie.
Now im curious. Are all these tattoos an american fad?
I don't like long fake nails or painted toe nails, but sometimes you just gotta live with it.
I don't like long fake nails or painted toe nails, but sometimes you just gotta live with it.
I hate girls that do their nails. Im sorry, I just do. It chips away and they pick at it and it looks NASTY.
Clean, just look clean. Nice skin and clean. So many girls ruin their body thinking it makes them look good, when they look perfectly fine the way they are. Less is more.
I cant see another golden orange fake tan blonde woman with bright orange nail polish on her feet. Like a high priced hooker.
Ladies, your hair is fine its natural color. Your nails are fine its natural color. Your eyes are fine their natural color.
DaveC426913
Jun13-08, 11:16 AM
Or she could be the hottest girl you ever have seen who is funny and intelligent, but then she happened to be wearing flip flops and had a rose tattoo on her foot, and so you were repulsed.
Just playing devil's advocate here:
Judging based on a tattoo is not quite as shallow as judging on other factors (such as weight or skin colour or etc.).
Some traits have no correlation with one's personality, some traits do have a degree of correlation with personality.
Tattoos are a choice made by the person, and to an arbitrarily greater or lesser degree that does tell you something about that person.
A tattoo (like every other item that you can change, such as hair colour, clothing, jewelery, piercings) are an advertisement - this is something I want you to know about me.
DaveC426913
Jun13-08, 11:23 AM
Its not the tattoo itself. Its the mindset, why did you get something so stupid permanently put on your foot...that I cant wrap my head around.Unless there's more to it, this is a circular argument.
I don't like you because you have a tattoo.
What's wrong with a tattoo?
It's stupidly permanent, and you've deliberately given yourself one.
But why is it stupid such that putting it on my ankle is bad?
Because permanently putting something stupid on your ankle is stupid.
But why is a tattoo stupid in the first place?
Norman coordinate! Norman coordinate!
Moonbear
Jun13-08, 11:38 AM
I don't like long fake nails or painted toe nails, but sometimes you just gotta live with it.
Why do you "gotta live with it?" Again, someone who has long fake nails or painted toe nails is saying something with that choice. They made a choice to have those, and I think it tells something about their personality. Either that they DO value superficial appearance, or perhaps that they are unwilling to do manual work (no point in having long, fake nails if you like digging in the garden for a hobby). To me, those are a sign of someone who likes to indulge in selfish luxury.
Tattoos also send a message, but perhaps just a different one. Someone who chooses to work out a lot and appears highly fit, or who spends a lot of time tanning, or who doesn't bother working out or eating right and gets fat, or who spends a fortune always having a perfect hairstyle, or who just pulls their hair back into a ponytail and wears no makeup each is telling you something about their personality by their choices about their appearance.
I personally only rarely wear any makeup, and usually just pull my hair into a ponytail or just leave it down doing whatever it naturally does, have short nails that are not painted, no tattoos or other body art, sometimes will wear a small piece of jewelry when I have to dress for a special occasion but nothing big or gawdy, and that's who I am and what I want to portray to people. If someone is not attracted by that, and prefers someone who likes to be flashy with big hair, long nails, tons of gaudy jewelry, then we are likely not compatible...that is someone who values outward displays of opulence and probably expects women to sit around and be pretty and not do anything that might break a fingernail or mess up their hair. That's not me. My outward appearance does reflect my inward attitudes and opinions, that's how I advertise myself. I don't believe in false advertising, dressing up as someone you're not, and then after you hook a guy, suddenly you stop wearing make-up and doing yourself up and he wonders why you've "let yourself go."
DaveC426913
Jun13-08, 11:44 AM
Why do you "gotta live with it?"
:approve: I thought the same thing too, and was tempted to comment on it. I think there's an unspoken component to that argument:
"...if she's hot enough".
Averagesupernova
Jun13-08, 09:36 PM
I really have to say that what some people SAY, for example right on this forum, gives me a better idea of their personality than some tattoo that I won't give a second thought about. Endlessly expressing a strong opinion over something so trivial as concealed tattoo tells me the one with the strong opinion has bigger issues than the one with the tattoo. It borders on religion in my book. If someone has such a hangup I'd say that THEY are the one with the issue. Given a choice I'd probably opt for no tattoo but a tattoo in a reasonable place on the female body is NOT a dealbreaker for me.
Why do you "gotta live with it?" Again, someone who has long fake nails or painted toe nails is saying something with that choice. They made a choice to have those, and I think it tells something about their personality. Either that they DO value superficial appearance, or perhaps that they are unwilling to do manual work (no point in having long, fake nails if you like digging in the garden for a hobby). To me, those are a sign of someone who likes to indulge in selfish luxury.
Tattoos also send a message, but perhaps just a different one. Someone who chooses to work out a lot and appears highly fit, or who spends a lot of time tanning, or who doesn't bother working out or eating right and gets fat, or who spends a fortune always having a perfect hairstyle, or who just pulls their hair back into a ponytail and wears no makeup each is telling you something about their personality by their choices about their appearance.
I personally only rarely wear any makeup, and usually just pull my hair into a ponytail or just leave it down doing whatever it naturally does, have short nails that are not painted, no tattoos or other body art, sometimes will wear a small piece of jewelry when I have to dress for a special occasion but nothing big or gawdy, and that's who I am and what I want to portray to people. If someone is not attracted by that, and prefers someone who likes to be flashy with big hair, long nails, tons of gaudy jewelry, then we are likely not compatible...that is someone who values outward displays of opulence and probably expects women to sit around and be pretty and not do anything that might break a fingernail or mess up their hair. That's not me. My outward appearance does reflect my inward attitudes and opinions, that's how I advertise myself. I don't believe in false advertising, dressing up as someone you're not, and then after you hook a guy, suddenly you stop wearing make-up and doing yourself up and he wonders why you've "let yourself go."I absolutely agree. If a guy wants a high maintenance woman (and some do) they are not for me.
I absolutely agree. If a guy wants a high maintenance woman (and some do) they are not for me.
High maintenance doesn't include having a few hemostats and some surgical suture at the ready? :biggrin:
Moonbear
Jun13-08, 10:25 PM
I really have to say that what some people SAY, for example right on this forum, gives me a better idea of their personality than some tattoo that I won't give a second thought about. Endlessly expressing a strong opinion over something so trivial as concealed tattoo tells me the one with the strong opinion has bigger issues than the one with the tattoo. It borders on religion in my book. If someone has such a hangup I'd say that THEY are the one with the issue. Given a choice I'd probably opt for no tattoo but a tattoo in a reasonable place on the female body is NOT a dealbreaker for me.
And if that's what you are comfortable with, fine. I don't know why you're getting so worked up that other people view it differently. That leaves a lot more tattooed women available for you if that is attractive or unimportant to you. Surely there is something that WOULD be a dealbreaker for you, and may not be for someone else. If everyone could be attracted to anyone else, it wouldn't be so hard to find a mate, now would it?
High maintenance doesn't include having a few hemostats and some surgical suture at the ready? :biggrin:
Yeah, Evo's pretty high maintenance with all the parts she needs repaired. The other kind take care of their own maintenance, they're just expensive to keep installing the aftermarket add-ons. :biggrin:
Why do you "gotta live with it?" Again, someone who has long fake nails or painted toe nails is saying something with that choice. They made a choice to have those, and I think it tells something about their personality. Either that they DO value superficial appearance, or perhaps that they are unwilling to do manual work (no point in having long, fake nails if you like digging in the garden for a hobby).My niece (with the small of the back floral tattoo) does not do any nail stuff at all and she keeps a vegetable garden, as we do. Last year, we had a bumper crop of apples off the largest of our trees and she and her two youngest girls came and picked at least a bushel of apples to preserve for winter. Anybody who wants to disrespect her based on her decision to get a tattoo might end up with a fat lip if they want to lip off around me. I'm a dedicated pacifist, but I can't see people that I love subjected to verbal abuse without responding.
:approve: I thought the same thing too, and was tempted to comment on it. I think there's an unspoken component to that argument:
"...if she's hot enough".
Because I don't care nearly enough to base my judgement about them, or to think they are unattractive because of it. You don't have to, but I am not going to go around telling my girlfriend she can't paint her nails or get a tattoo or I will dump her. If I am with a girl, then I like her enough that those tiny things are non issues to me respectfully.
To me it is kind of like not choosing a president because of some petty non issue like if they smoked cigarets. You could argue smoking is dumb so they must be dumb, but in the end your the one who is short changed for making such a petty thing more important that things that really matter.
I really have to say that what some people SAY, for example right on this forum, gives me a better idea of their personality than some tattoo that I won't give a second thought about. Endlessly expressing a strong opinion over something so trivial as concealed tattoo tells me the one with the strong opinion has bigger issues than the one with the tattoo. It borders on religion in my book. If someone has such a hangup I'd say that THEY are the one with the issue. Given a choice I'd probably opt for no tattoo but a tattoo in a reasonable place on the female body is NOT a dealbreaker for me.
Well, thats you. You are you and I am me. Not everyones like you.
Soooooooooo I did a nice little experiment today!
I was at the mall and the girl at the shoe store had tattos HEAD to TOE......LITERALLY. I grabbed her arm while she was ringing me up and yanked her toward me over the counter and asked her about her tattoos. How many she has, why she did it, how do they fill it in, do they do it all at once.... She said shes been working on it for 6 years, and the ones on her neck hurt but so did near the ribs.
Then I was at HOOTERS later at night and I saw our blonde waitress (wait it gets better, I know I KNOW), had a light tattoo on the inside of her wrist. I asked her what it said, she said, quite angrily, "its my ex-boyfriends name.........."
AHAHHAHAHAHAH...........ahhhhhhhhh.....yeah still a deal breaker.
Oh, and I also so a flock of girls with bright neon orange toe nail polish as well. PASS.
I love sterotypes, they always hold true.
Because I don't care nearly enough to base my judgement about them, or to think they are unattractive because of it. You don't have to, but I am not going to go around telling my girlfriend she can't paint her nails or get a tattoo or I will dump her. If I am with a girl, then I like her enough that those tiny things are non issues to me respectfully.
To me it is kind of like not choosing a president because of some petty non issue like if they smoked cigarets. You could argue smoking is dumb so they must be dumb, but in the end your the one who is short changed for making such a petty thing more important that things that really matter.
Oh, Id dump her like a hot-cake if she got a tattoo. Its like if she decided to take up smoking. Bye byeeeeeeeee.
I dont like girls that trash their bodies.
My niece (with the small of the back floral tattoo) does not do any nail stuff at all and she keeps a vegetable garden, as we do. Last year, we had a bumper crop of apples off the largest of our trees and she and her two youngest girls came and picked at least a bushel of apples to preserve for winter. Anybody who wants to disrespect her based on her decision to get a tattoo might end up with a fat lip if they want to lip off around me. I'm a dedicated pacifist, but I can't see people that I love subjected to verbal abuse without responding.
Relax, no one is talking about your niece except you.
Oh, Id dump her like a hot-cake if she got a tattoo. Its like if she decided to take up smoking. Bye byeeeeeeeee.
Then I guess you've never really liked any girls? What kind of girls do you date? Are you really controlling in a relationship?
Then I guess you've never really liked any girls? What kind of girls do you date? Are you really controlling in a relationship?
I lock her in a closet and beat her....MUHAAHHAHAh......
Simple girls who keep themselves looking clean, take care of their body, and care about putting some knowledge in that pretty head of theirs. And talks in a sensible tone. I cannot stand the teremendous volume I see women talking in these days. YAP YAP YAP OMG YAP YAP YAP! Its about having some grace.......and I dont like girls that drink themselves stupid.
I think Ive knocked down about 80% of the women in my area with this short list alone.
Im not sure how you got 'controlling' out of a list of qualifications for a position that needs filling. Hiyooooooo.
I lock her in a closet and beat her....MUHAAHHAHAh......
Simple girls who keep themselves looking clean, take care of their body, and care about putting some knowledge in that pretty head of theirs. And talks in a sensible tone. I cannot stand the teremendous volume I see women talking in these days. YAP YAP YAP OMG YAP YAP YAP! Its about having some grace.......and I dont like girls that drink themselves stupid.
I think Ive knocked down about 80% of the women in my area with this short list alone.
Im not sure how you got 'controlling' out of a list of qualifications for a position that needs filling. Hiyooooooo.
I completely understand your list, that is what probably 95% of people on this site would say as well (including me).
I can't wrap my head around you saying that you would dump a girl instantly if she were to get a tattoo. Even if you were nearly in love with her, you would get rid of her????
TheStatutoryApe
Jun14-08, 03:09 AM
Soooooooooo I did a nice little experiment today!
I was at the mall and the girl at the shoe store had tattos HEAD to TOE......LITERALLY. I grabbed her arm while she was ringing me up and yanked her toward me over the counter and asked her about her tattoos. How many she has, why she did it, how do they fill it in, do they do it all at once.... She said shes been working on it for 6 years, and the ones on her neck hurt but so did near the ribs.
Then I was at HOOTERS later at night and I saw our blonde waitress (wait it gets better, I know I KNOW), had a light tattoo on the inside of her wrist. I asked her what it said, she said, quite angrily, "its my ex-boyfriends name.........."
AHAHHAHAHAHAH...........ahhhhhhhhh.....yeah still a deal breaker.
Oh, and I also so a flock of girls with bright neon orange toe nail polish as well. PASS.
I love sterotypes, they always hold true.
Wow... One that works at the mall and one that works at Hooters. Quite a cross section of the female population there.
Well, I'd prefer:
Cincinnati Royals 4ever
Kansas City Kings 4ever
Omaha/Kansas City Kings 4ever
Sacramento Kings 4ever
I always felt sorry for that guy in the 1996 Cleveland Browns photo that had a Broncos tatoo clearly visible. Browns fans hate the Broncos.
If she was old enough to have a NY Giants or a Brooklyn Dodgers tatoo, I probably wouldn't be interested.
In other words, tatooing a sports team on your body is a really dumb idea (unless it's a tatoo of the only NBA team to be founded in California - that would be cool.)
Uh. I think I'd be turned off enough if she were sleeping with one sports team. If she were sleeping with four sports teams, well... I guess they'd have to invent a new term for that.
It's the same sports team. It just moved around a lot.
A little like Cyrus's waitress that had her ex-boyfriend's name tatooed on her arm. Considering about 50% of marriages end in divorce, it's not a smart decision to tatoo your spouse's name on your body, let alone a boyfriend or girlfriend.
Then I was at HOOTERS later at night and I saw our blonde waitress (wait it gets better, I know I KNOW), had a light tattoo on the inside of her wrist. I asked her what it said, she said, quite angrily, "its my ex-boyfriends name.........."
Things change, including you and the things you desire. You'd like the stupid things you've done in your past to be a little more subdued than a tatoo. You have to look really close to see the stupid things I've done - the line running lengthwise on my finger because I stuck my hand in lawnmower, the two scars between my index and middle finger where I hung from a fence, a very subtle (and tasteful) scar above my lip from an ice cube fight, etc.
I'm especially proud of how I blended by most recent scar (obtained from cutting onions with one of those Think Geek knives that I learned about here at PF - a permanent reminder of PF that will last me the rest of my life :rofl:) into the creases of my knuckle. If I bend my knuckle as far as it will go, it's easily visible, but it's practically invisible when I lay my hand flat.
Okay, I'm getting as bad as that scene in Jaws. :rolleyes:
Averagesupernova
Jun14-08, 09:14 AM
And if that's what you are comfortable with, fine. I don't know why you're getting so worked up that other people view it differently. That leaves a lot more tattooed women available for you if that is attractive or unimportant to you. Surely there is something that WOULD be a dealbreaker for you, and may not be for someone else. If everyone could be attracted to anyone else, it wouldn't be so hard to find a mate, now would it?
I'm not the one all worked up about it. Check the number of posts I have in this thread compared to the people that are really worked up. I'd be willing to bet that if I listed a bunch of reasons why I don't like you that you would be listing a whole bunch of reasons why my reasons are irrelevant (if you cared, which you would although you may not admit it). BUT, when it comes to this tattoo issue if things were switched around, which they actually are, then no argument from my side, or Turbo-1's side is good enough. I just think a little self-reflection might do us all a little bit of good. And for the record I don't dislike you moony. I may not agree with what you say, but I don't dislike you.
...it wouldn't be so hard to find a mate, now would it?
That's really sticking your neck out on a forum full of science geeks.
GeorginaS
Jun14-08, 10:02 AM
Soooooooooo I did a nice little experiment today!
I was at the mall and the girl at the shoe store had tattos HEAD to TOE......LITERALLY. I grabbed her arm while she was ringing me up and yanked her toward me over the counter and asked her about her tattoos. How many she has, why she did it, how do they fill it in, do they do it all at once.... She said shes been working on it for 6 years, and the ones on her neck hurt but so did near the ribs.
I love sterotypes, they always hold true.
I'm not quite sure I understood this bit. What was the experiment? What stereotype did you manage to fulfill by talking with this woman? And did you really and literally grab her arm and "yank her toward [you] over the counter"? And if you did, did she backhand you across the head and she properly should have? What kind of obnoxious behaviour is that on your part, Cyrus, to engage in with perfect strangers? And you have the nerve to point at other people and say they have no manners, class, or proper self presentation.
Moonbear
Jun14-08, 11:12 AM
I'm not the one all worked up about it. Check the number of posts I have in this thread compared to the people that are really worked up. I'd be willing to bet that if I listed a bunch of reasons why I don't like you that you would be listing a whole bunch of reasons why my reasons are irrelevant (if you cared, which you would although you may not admit it). BUT, when it comes to this tattoo issue if things were switched around, which they actually are, then no argument from my side, or Turbo-1's side is good enough. I just think a little self-reflection might do us all a little bit of good. And for the record I don't dislike you moony. I may not agree with what you say, but I don't dislike you.
I don't see anyone else getting all that worked up. Well, there were a few disturbing posts in between...I really dislike the term "tramp stamp" to refer to those lower back tattoos, because regardless of whether I like them or not, I don't think anyone should be calling women "tramps." Even if there were a strong correlation between the tattoo and sexual promiscuity (which I really don't believe there is), that's STILL no reason to call someone a tramp. I don't care if it's "what the kids call it," it's derogatory no matter how I look at it.
That's a different issue than the original question of whether one would date someone with a tattoo. As you pointed out, there's a difference between disagreement and disliking. I have friends who have tattoos, I don't dislike people with tattoos, but I do disagree with them about that choice. Some of them got them simply because they think they are pretty...personally, I know my taste in fashion and art has changed over the years, and likely will continue to change, so what one considers pretty when they are 20-something may not be what they still consider pretty when they are 40-something. The reason seems shallow for such a permanent modification to one's body. One friend's boyfriend has tattoos all over. When you ask him what they mean (they're all Chinese or Japanese characters...he's not even sure which), he doesn't remember. I tease him that they probably read, "Gullible American Kid." This same friend has a tattoo of her own, which is rather large and has a lot of meaning to her and was something she got after a very traumatic incident and was a reaction to that...I have to wonder if she's going to think it was such a good idea in 30 years when she's stuck with a tattoo reminding her of that trauma when she should otherwise be moving on with life, and I have to wonder if she got the tattoo as a poor way of dealing with her grief/shock over the incident, or if having it as a constant reminder might hinder her from ever fully recovering.
I don't dislike any of these people, they're my friends, but we will always disagree on the issue of tattoos. But, I choose friends differently than I choose people I'd date. The reason is that to me, I can have a lot more differences in agreement with friends than I want to have with someone I would consider dating as more than a friend. With dating, I'm looking for prospects for a life long partner. That means we have to agree on a lot more things than someone I just spend a little time with each day or each week. Each of the reasons my friends have tattoos, as varied as they are, do reflect something about their personality that I would find incompatible in a lifelong partner. In the case of the ones who just find them pretty, it isn't compatible with my sense of aesthetics. With the one who can't even remember what the characters mean, it's impulsiveness underlying the choice to get a tattoo (actually, it shows up in other things he does too...tolerable in small doses, but would drive me bonkers if I had to live with that). With the one who has the meaningful tattoo, it seemed to me like an unhealthy reaction to grief, and while I can help a friend through that a little bit, she does need to get some other help in dealing with her grief, and it's not something I could deal with in a partner who would deal with grief in that way (or really, it's more about not dealing with it and finding ways to cover or hide it).
So, again, tattoos advertise something about the person. It doesn't mean I'd dislike them as a person, it just means I wouldn't date them, because what it advertises is not compatible with my approach to life. No different, actually, than someone who really likes tattoos not wanting to date someone who would choose to NEVER get a tattoo...the same issues would work both ways, and indicates an incompatibility for a relationship that requires a higher level of compatibility than "just" friendship. The question wasn't "would you talk to someone with tattoos," it was "would you DATE" them.
I don't see anyone else getting all that worked up. Well, there were a few disturbing posts in between...I really dislike the term "tramp stamp" to refer to those lower back tattoos, because regardless of whether I like them or not, I don't think anyone should be calling women "tramps." Even if there were a strong correlation between the tattoo and sexual promiscuity (which I really don't believe there is), that's STILL no reason to call someone a tramp. I don't care if it's "what the kids call it," it's derogatory no matter how I look at it. Actually, that's one of the nicer things they are referred to as. (a quick google found a list of terms that I can't post here AND they were from a tatoo website). If I decided to get one, being fully aware of the nicknames, I wouldn't be getting upset about it.
The funniest one was "arse antlers", supposedly a common name in Australia. :rofl:
Averagesupernova
Jun14-08, 11:47 AM
Moonbear I more or less agree with everything you are saying. Especially this part: No different, actually, than someone who really likes tattoos not wanting to date someone who would choose to NEVER get a tattoo...
But some of the posters on here don't see it that way. You cannot have it both ways when the assumption from the start by said posters is that tattoos are dumb. Right off the bat as soon as the tattoos are dumb statement is out there the comparison you made is irrelevant because in order to be a fair comparison both choices need to be considered equally 'dumb' by both sides. I will admit that in the past I have been very narrowminded on many issues including tattoos. My opinions would have been similar to Cyrus'. But as we grow older some of us realize that there is something wrong with everyone and we need to pick our battles.
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One little inconspicous tattoo doesn't really say a whole lot about ones personality. A tattoo on the face or something like that most certainly does. And if it takes a tattoo on someones face to clue another person in on their personality then they are lacking some serious social skills. A blind person could figure it out pretty quickly.
JasonRox
Jun14-08, 12:02 PM
:confused: All physical beauty does is get me to notice a girl -- but I, for one, have absolutely no interest in hitting on a total stranger. And since physical beauty is mostly irrelevant once you know a girl's personality, I really don't understand your point of view.
You`re joking right?
It gets you to notice the girl and hence want to know her personality. Sounds pretty darn important to me.
Sorry, but I won`t stay with a girl that was pretty then went ugly. And yes, I said that to all the girls I`ve dated.
Her attractiveness was a key reason why I am with her. Like Hurkyl said, got me to notice her.
You cannot have it both ways when the assumption from the start by said posters is that tattoos are dumb. Right off the bat as soon as the tattoos are dumb statement is out there the comparison you made is irrelevant because in order to be a fair comparison both choices need to be considered equally 'dumb' by both sides.I don't understand this, are you saying that a person cannot hold the opinion that tatoos are dumb? I think they're dumb, I think self scarification and mutilation is also dumb. Obviously there are people that don't think they are dumb. People are voicing personal opinions here, of course you are going to have both positive and negative opinions as a result. My oldest daughter doesn't think tatoos are dumb, at least not arse antlers, my youngest daughter does.
The more I think about it, I think it would be hysterical to get some antlers tatooed on my lower back and really have arse antlers. Since it is unlikely that anyone aside from an EMT or the undertaker will ever see them.... At least I could give someone a good laugh as my final goodbye. :tongue:
I don't go around telling people with tatoos that I would never consider doing it, what they do is none of my business. But this thread is asking for an opinion, and people are giving them. :smile:
JasonRox
Jun14-08, 12:08 PM
I don't see anyone else getting all that worked up. Well, there were a few disturbing posts in between...I really dislike the term "tramp stamp" to refer to those lower back tattoos, because regardless of whether I like them or not, I don't think anyone should be calling women "tramps." Even if there were a strong correlation between the tattoo and sexual promiscuity (which I really don't believe there is), that's STILL no reason to call someone a tramp. I don't care if it's "what the kids call it," it's derogatory no matter how I look at it.
That's a different issue than the original question of whether one would date someone with a tattoo. As you pointed out, there's a difference between disagreement and disliking. I have friends who have tattoos, I don't dislike people with tattoos, but I do disagree with them about that choice. Some of them got them simply because they think they are pretty...personally, I know my taste in fashion and art has changed over the years, and likely will continue to change, so what one considers pretty when they are 20-something may not be what they still consider pretty when they are 40-something. The reason seems shallow for such a permanent modification to one's body. One friend's boyfriend has tattoos all over. When you ask him what they mean (they're all Chinese or Japanese characters...he's not even sure which), he doesn't remember. I tease him that they probably read, "Gullible American Kid." This same friend has a tattoo of her own, which is rather large and has a lot of meaning to her and was something she got after a very traumatic incident and was a reaction to that...I have to wonder if she's going to think it was such a good idea in 30 years when she's stuck with a tattoo reminding her of that trauma when she should otherwise be moving on with life, and I have to wonder if she got the tattoo as a poor way of dealing with her grief/shock over the incident, or if having it as a constant reminder might hinder her from ever fully recovering.
I don't dislike any of these people, they're my friends, but we will always disagree on the issue of tattoos. But, I choose friends differently than I choose people I'd date. The reason is that to me, I can have a lot more differences in agreement with friends than I want to have with someone I would consider dating as more than a friend. With dating, I'm looking for prospects for a life long partner. That means we have to agree on a lot more things than someone I just spend a little time with each day or each week. Each of the reasons my friends have tattoos, as varied as they are, do reflect something about their personality that I would find incompatible in a lifelong partner. In the case of the ones who just find them pretty, it isn't compatible with my sense of aesthetics. With the one who can't even remember what the characters mean, it's impulsiveness underlying the choice to get a tattoo (actually, it shows up in other things he does too...tolerable in small doses, but would drive me bonkers if I had to live with that). With the one who has the meaningful tattoo, it seemed to me like an unhealthy reaction to grief, and while I can help a friend through that a little bit, she does need to get some other help in dealing with her grief, and it's not something I could deal with in a partner who would deal with grief in that way (or really, it's more about not dealing with it and finding ways to cover or hide it).
So, again, tattoos advertise something about the person. It doesn't mean I'd dislike them as a person, it just means I wouldn't date them, because what it advertises is not compatible with my approach to life. No different, actually, than someone who really likes tattoos not wanting to date someone who would choose to NEVER get a tattoo...the same issues would work both ways, and indicates an incompatibility for a relationship that requires a higher level of compatibility than "just" friendship. The question wasn't "would you talk to someone with tattoos," it was "would you DATE" them.
Nice post.
I don`t see what is wrong with sexual promiscuity. Most of the bad terms of girls are used from guys who can`t get girls (and of course, girls who hate those girls). Guys who actually have confidence and date girls don`t actually disrespect girls in such a childish way. Hence, probably why these guys date girls and why the others don`t.
JasonRox
Jun14-08, 12:11 PM
I'm not quite sure I understood this bit. What was the experiment? What stereotype did you manage to fulfill by talking with this woman? And did you really and literally grab her arm and "yank her toward [you] over the counter"? And if you did, did she backhand you across the head and she properly should have? What kind of obnoxious behaviour is that on your part, Cyrus, to engage in with perfect strangers? And you have the nerve to point at other people and say they have no manners, class, or proper self presentation.
Why would she smack him? He showed curiousity in what seems to be her passion. Girls, and people alike, enjoy that.
I can't wrap my head around you saying that you would dump a girl instantly if she were to get a tattoo. Even if you were nearly in love with her, you would get rid of her????
Well, of course that's different. But its also purely hypothetical.
It's the same sports team. It just moved around a lot.
A little like Cyrus's waitress that had her ex-boyfriend's name tatooed on her arm. Considering about 50% of marriages end in divorce, it's not a smart decision to tatoo your spouse's name on your body, let alone a boyfriend or girlfriend.
Things change, including you and the things you desire. You'd like the stupid things you've done in your past to be a little more subdued than a tatoo. You have to look really close to see the stupid things I've done - the line running lengthwise on my finger because I stuck my hand in lawnmower, the two scars between my index and middle finger where I hung from a fence, a very subtle (and tasteful) scar above my lip from an ice cube fight, etc.
I'm especially proud of how I blended by most recent scar (obtained from cutting onions with one of those Think Geek knives that I learned about here at PF - a permanent reminder of PF that will last me the rest of my life :rofl:) into the creases of my knuckle. If I bend my knuckle as far as it will go, it's easily visible, but it's practically invisible when I lay my hand flat.
Okay, I'm getting as bad as that scene in Jaws. :rolleyes:
You stuck your hand in a LAWNMOWER!!?:surprised
I'm not quite sure I understood this bit. What was the experiment? What stereotype did you manage to fulfill by talking with this woman? And did you really and literally grab her arm and "yank her toward [you] over the counter"? And if you did, did she backhand you across the head and she properly should have? What kind of obnoxious behaviour is that on your part, Cyrus, to engage in with perfect strangers? And you have the nerve to point at other people and say they have no manners, class, or proper self presentation.
Yes, I did grab her arm and yank her. And she happily explained all her tattoos to me. I know how to talk to women, dont worry about me.
GeorginaS
Jun14-08, 12:49 PM
I'm not quite sure I understood this bit. What was the experiment? What stereotype did you manage to fulfill by talking with this woman? And did you really and literally grab her arm and "yank her toward [you] over the counter"? And if you did, did she backhand you across the head and she properly should have? What kind of obnoxious behaviour is that on your part, Cyrus, to engage in with perfect strangers? And you have the nerve to point at other people and say they have no manners, class, or proper self presentation.
Why would she smack him? He showed curiousity in what seems to be her passion. Girls, and people alike, enjoy that.
You mean, like Cyrus, you also think that grabbing a stranger by the arm and yanking her is showing curiosity? Demonstrating an interest? I think it's rude and unacceptable behaviour.
You stuck your hand in a LAWNMOWER!!?:surprised
Only a little bit to clean a grass clump from the chute ..... and I kept my fingers parallel to the blades just in case I misjudged it. Putting my fingers in perpendicular to the blades would have been stupid. :uhh:
You stuck your hand in a LAWNMOWER!!?:surprised
Hmmm, interesting. You considered hanging from a fence by the skin between your fingers normal.
What kind of people do you hang around with?:rofl:
I think getting tatoos is similar to sticking your hand in a lawn mower. It's generally a bad idea.
That doesn't mean you never do it. It means a person really ought to think carefully about it first.
In other words, I wouldn't rule out dating a person with a tatoo. It's just that most of the people that get tatoos would also be short sighted enough to scoop out the grass clumps from their lawnmower with their fingers perpendicular to the blade.
A person getting a tatoo ought to at least be sure they can minimize the damage if they change their minds about it later.
I would never not date a guy because he had tattoos, it would just depend on the guy. Within reason of course, a few are ok but by no means do I find being covered in ink attractive. Many of my family members have tattoos and they are all great people. One of my favorite cousins is very artistic and has designed every tattoo she has and they are pretty neat. I don't see myself ever getting one though, I have nothing against them I just don't think I would ever find something I wanted forever.
You mean, like Cyrus, you also think that grabbing a stranger by the arm and yanking her is showing curiosity? Demonstrating an interest? I think it's rude and unacceptable behaviour.
<Shrug> Okay </Shrug>
What you think is not whats reality.
K.J.Healey
Jun14-08, 03:43 PM
No, they're right. Grabbing a stranger's arm when they're not expecting it would be unacceptable. But physical contact while flirting/building rapport is pretty normal. So long as its not aggressive or violent in any way. If its unwanted most people would let you know.
Moonbear
Jun14-08, 05:15 PM
<Shrug> Okay </Shrug>
What you think is not whats reality.
If a total stranger grabbed my arm and pulled me by it, he'd be lucky if I didn't call the cops, let alone cause serious bodily injury to get free of his grip. Sorry, but that part was incredibly rude, and I don't know why she was even willing to talk to you after that. It's one thing to show curiosity about her tattoos by asking about them and another to grab her arm uninvited.
Sigh, I didnt just walk up to her and grab her arm. No cops were called, and no one was slapped. Why? Because its not what you do, but how you do things when interacting with other people. She was totally cool as a cucumber.
Perhaps yanked was too strong of a word. I didnt yank her, as in 'grab her arm and fling her' towards me. It was a gentle tug.
I agree had I YANKEEEEEEEEEEED someone randomly, that would be quite rude.
But its ok, we both laughed and then got eachothers names written across our foreheads.
DaveC426913
Jun15-08, 10:29 AM
Only a little bit to clean a grass clump from the chute ..... and I kept my fingers parallel to the blades just in case I misjudged it. Putting my fingers in perpendicular to the blades would have been stupid. :uhh:
Wait. You did this while it was on?
Given a choice between a woman covered head-to-toe in tats and BobG's death wish, I'd dump BobG and date the Illustrated Woman.
DaveC426913
Jun15-08, 10:31 AM
If a total stranger grabbed my arm and pulled me by it, he'd be lucky if I didn't call the cops, let alone cause serious bodily injury to get free of his grip. Sorry, but that part was incredibly rude, and I don't know why she was even willing to talk to you after that. It's one thing to show curiosity about her tattoos by asking about them and another to grab her arm uninvited.
We weren't there. Without context, only Cyrus knows if it was appropriate.
Moonbear
Jun15-08, 10:44 AM
We weren't there. Without context, only Cyrus knows if it was appropriate.
I can only go by what he described here. The way he described it sounded rather forceful. He's now clarified that his words were exaggerated.
I can only go by what he described here. The way he described it sounded rather forceful. He's now clarified that his words were exaggerated.
It was for dramatico effect! :redface:
Moonbear
Jun15-08, 04:14 PM
It was for dramatico effect! :redface:
Then don't be surprised when we're dramatically worried you're being offensive. :wink:
GeorginaS
Jun15-08, 09:19 PM
It was for dramatico effect! :redface:
You could have also mentioned that you were exaggerating when I specifically quoted you and asked you about your behaviour. You reiterated that that was precisely what you'd done; you didn't mention "dramatic effect" then.
Getting back to the topic, years ago, I would have immediately discounted dating someone because of a tattoo because tattoos weren't mainstream, they weren't particularly well done or art, (okay I'm talking years, and years ago, here) and they tended to be an indicator of a person having been in prison and/or somehow related to a criminal element or biker gang. Truly, way back, those were about the only people who had tattoos.
Today, they're much more mainstream, much more artistic, and can be a symbol or a statement without necessarily having any negative associations attached to them. It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but I have to admit, I'd hesitate.
TheStatutoryApe
Jun16-08, 08:02 AM
The most wonderful, amazing, and beautiful woman I ever dated was physically deformed. It did not daunt me in the least. And I've yet to meet as gorgeous a woman as she is. She would have had tattoos except it might have upset her family.
Despite what I may have said in this thread (I've been somewhat neutral, slightly against tattoos), I've realized that I actually like it when a girl has a tattoo.
However, I do dislike when the tattoos cover an entire arm... leave that to male drummers.
DaveC426913
Jun16-08, 09:07 AM
It was for dramatico effect! :redface:
Why, how out-of-character for you. :rolleyes:
Moonbear
Jun16-08, 09:35 AM
Despite what I may have said in this thread (I've been somewhat neutral, slightly against tattoos), I've realized that I actually like it when a girl has a tattoo.
However, I do dislike when the tattoos cover an entire arm... leave that to male drummers.
And that's another good point. It's not just have or have not, but how big, how much, what the content is, etc. Someone might find a little rose or butterfly on the hip to be very attractive while an entire sleeve of skulls and crossbones, dripping blood, and fanged creatures could be downright frightening.
I think Georgina brings up a good point about generational differences too. Tattoos are much more common among young adults, and even teens, than when I was growing up. They used to be associated with "thugs" (gang members, prison inmates), bikers (right or wrong, it was viewed as associated with a rough, rabble-rousing subset), and ex-military (usually the insignia of their branch of the military). "Nice" people didn't get tattoos, and the only women with tattoos were the "biker chicks." Since just getting a tattoo was a high risk behavior in those days (nobody had cracked down on tattoo parlors regarding hygiene or proper sterilization of needles, etc.), the people displaying them were showing that they were the type who engaged in some form of high risk behavior.
As tattoos have become more mainstream, some of that association with high-risk behaviors is lessening, though I still think there is some level of risk-taking in getting a tattoo regardless of how much better tattoo parlors are regulated (just the willingness to endure the pain of it seems to indicate something about risk tolerance), so that's not entirely diminished. But, as this generation ages, it may be easier to explain the tattoos as the "young and stupid" stage of life that they've outgrown.
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