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olde drunk
May21-04, 10:44 AM
I was sent the following by a friend. Interesting information -

Smedley Butler on Interventionism

-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley
Butler, USMC.

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as
something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a
small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the
benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a
nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with
America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then
it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag
follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy
investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight
for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of
Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is
blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle
men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and
a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison.
Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four
months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile
military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks
from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I
spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of
it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a
thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties
remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This
is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil
interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the
National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping
of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall
Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua
for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912
(where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the
Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to
see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a
swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al
Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in
three districts. I operated on three continents.


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Polly
May21-04, 10:50 PM
All For Peace.

phatmonky
May21-04, 10:52 PM
If an ally is attack, you sit by and do nothing, for it is not our borders?

Polly
May21-04, 11:16 PM
I will say this much, if Hong Kong is attacked by the USA, I will be doing something to stop the offense, which is always wrong and a crime to me.

Ebolamonk3y
May22-04, 12:22 AM
You can do what against well trained marines?

Adam
May22-04, 01:37 AM
Having worked with the USMC, other US forces, and military forces from around the world... well, just leave out that "well trained" bit...

BoulderHead
May22-04, 01:58 AM
You can do what against well trained marines?
As I recall the ol' jingle;

Ten thousand ***** came over the pass
playin' the burpgun boogie on a Gyrines @ss.

phatmonky
May22-04, 10:42 AM
I will say this much, if Hong Kong is attacked by the USA, I will be doing something to stop the offense, which is always wrong and a crime to me.

Well, when mainland China decides to attack Taiwan, I pray you and I never have to meet face to face in such an untimely situation :smile:

phatmonky
May22-04, 10:42 AM
Having worked with the USMC, other US forces, and military forces from around the world... well, just leave out that "well trained" bit...


How cute Adam.

jimmy p
May22-04, 12:27 PM
gotta love the SAS..

Adam
May22-04, 12:30 PM
I'm not joking. We nearly saw 63 US marines splattered all over a beach by their own navy because they totally ****ed up the communications for an exercise.

Polly
May23-04, 10:33 PM
Well, when mainland China decides to attack Taiwan, I pray you and I never have to meet face to face in such an untimely situation :smile:

:wink: Actually I support the autonomy of Taiwan and I happen to think, no offence intended to any of the posters here whatsoever, that the "unification" of Taiwan is no more than barbaric and parochial "nationalism" of the PRC Chinese.

Robert Zaleski
May24-04, 09:36 PM
I was sent the following by a friend. Interesting information -

Smedley Butler on Interventionism

-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley
Butler, USMC.

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as
something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a
small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the
benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.
Why is this a big surprise to you. In a monarchy, dictatorship, democracy or socialist state the average man is fighting for the men in power. The only difference is, in a democracy you get to choose your poison.