The One Single Event that will Cause the Collapse of Physics

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The discussion revolves around speculative ideas regarding the existence of an inverse universe composed of antimatter and governed by different physical laws, particularly in relation to concepts like gravity and entropy. Participants explore the implications of such a universe colliding with our own, the nature of entropy across universes, and the potential for these ideas to explain phenomena like dark energy.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Speculative reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose the existence of an inverse universe made of antimatter with reversed gravity and laws of physics governed by imaginary numbers.
  • There is speculation that a collision between our universe and this inverse universe could cancel gravitational forces and render physical laws false.
  • Questions are raised about whether entropy applies between universes and if it affects the laws of nature and energy.
  • One participant suggests that dark energy's sudden appearance could be explained by forces leaking into our universe from another universe.
  • Another participant emphasizes the distinction between random speculation and theorizing, which requires experimental evidence.
  • Some participants discuss the nature of entropy, suggesting it holds true wherever statistical laws apply, using coin flipping as an analogy for ordered versus unordered states.
  • A later reply introduces the idea that an inverse universe must have a negative time dimension and could be produced from the annihilation of pairs of universes, implying a universe without a beginning or end.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of speculative ideas without reaching a consensus. There are competing views on the nature of entropy across universes and the implications of a collision between them. Disagreements arise regarding the validity of speculative claims versus those requiring empirical support.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on definitions of universes and entropy that remain unresolved. The discussion includes speculative reasoning that lacks empirical backing, and assumptions about the nature of time and existence in hypothetical universes are not universally accepted.

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In thought experiments that I have done, I've always thought that there was another universe that is sort of an inverse to ours. It is composed of antimatter (it has "reversed" gravity-a force that repels) and its laws of physics are governed by imaginary numbers (i). If these two universes collide, all gravitational forces will be canceled and all laws of physics will be false.
 
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Originally posted by Astronomer107
I've always thought that there was another universe that is sort of an inverse to ours. If these two universes collide, all gravitational forces will be canceled and all laws of physics will be false.
 
well, let's hope that never happens!
 
I wonder though... does entropy work between universes? Does it apply to laws of nature, as well as energy?
 
Originally posted by FZ+
I wonder though... does entropy work between universes? Does it apply to laws of nature, as well as energy?


no. what happens in another universe can have no observable consiquences in ours.
 
I'm just randomly speculating. This would however help explain a number of useful things. Like the discovery recently that dark energy appeared suddenly billions of years after the big bang could be explained by forces leaking into this universe from another... We might be in the middle of this collision as we speak... :wink:

EDIT: To please the experts in semantics.
 
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No, you are just randomly speculating. That's very different from "theorizing" which requires that your theory be supported by at least some experimental evidence.
 
Originally posted by FZ+
I wonder though... does entropy work between universes? Does it apply to laws of nature, as well as energy?

Let's do an experiment and see:

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candyman
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candyman

Uh oh
 
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I think entropy would hold true anywhere that the laws of statistics do, since that's all entropy is, unfortunately

Ordered states are less numerous than unordered ones, and with random actions, you're more likely to end up in a likely state than an unlikely one

For example:
If you have fifty coins, and you consider an ordered state one where they're all heads or all tails and start it off that way, then flip them all at random, there's very little chance you'll keep ordered, and not just end up with a random selection of coins
 
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Originally posted by Astronomer107
In thought experiments that I have done, I've always thought that there was another universe that is sort of an inverse to ours.
Such universe must have a negative time dimension to exist.

If the pair can annihilate each other, it can also be produced from the photons created in the annihilation of the previous pair of universes. This is like quantum fluctuation when pair of antiparticles appear out of nothing and annihilate each other again.

This is another idea on how the universe comes from! But this would mean that the universe has no beginning and ending!

And the universe is virtual!

physicskid
 

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