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TheoreticalPhysics
Jan25-09, 06:00 AM
Is there any method of showing the wave nature of EMR other than via
electron interaction?

Sue...
Jan25-09, 06:00 AM
On Jan 24, 3:10*pm, TheoreticalPhysics <phys...@graduate.org> wrote:
> Is there any method of showing the wave nature of EMR other than via
> electron interaction?

Indeed. Use positron interaction. :-)

Assuming the electrons in computer circuits don't
qualify as interacting:

There are decades of complex simulations which
assume wave characteristics in all three dimensions
and for array complexities far more elaborate than
this.

http://www.myerseng.com/Patron/UL-350A-B354-E-Plane.gif

The simulation consistently predicts nulls and lobes
of intensity where the wave model says they should
be.

Sue...

TheoreticalPhysics
Jan27-09, 06:00 AM
On Jan 25, 10:12*am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 3:10*pm, TheoreticalPhysics <phys...@graduate.org> wrote:
>
> > Is there any method of showing the wave nature of EMR other than via
> > electron interaction?
>
> Indeed. *Use positron interaction. :-)

Hi Sue, thanks for the reply. Sorry - I should have been a little more
precise there!

> Assuming the electrons in computer circuits don't
> qualify as interacting:
>
> There are decades of complex simulations which
> assume wave *characteristics in all three dimensions
> and for array complexities far more elaborate than
> this.
>
> http://www.myerseng.com/Patron/UL-350A-B354-E-Plane.gif
>
> The simulation consistently predicts nulls and lobes
> of intensity where the wave model says they should
> be.
>
> Sue...

Do you think that this implies a wavefront? Or could this be a
standing-wave set up in the antenna by the interaction of photons? The
analogy is throwing a stone in to a pond and watching the ripples in
the water. The frequency of the waves produced is a function of the
water - there is no ripple (wavefunction) in the stone.

Army1987
Jan29-09, 06:00 AM
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:10:19 +0000, TheoreticalPhysics wrote:

> Is there any method of showing the wave nature of EMR other than via
> electron interaction?

Try looking at the rainbow-like effect of the reflection of light off the
surface of a CD, due to the fact that the tracks act as a diffracting
grate ... Nevermind, that requires light to interact with electrons in
the metallic layer of the CD to work. :-)

[[Mod. note -- I suppose you could have a suitable (radio) EMR
interact with non-electron (eg proton, ion, ...) charged-particle
beam. -- jt]]

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TheoreticalPhysics
Jan30-09, 06:00 AM
> [[Mod. note -- I suppose you could have a suitable (radio) EMR
> interact with non-electron (eg proton, ion, ...) charged-particle
> beam. =A0-- jt]]

Does anyone have a references to this type of interaction?

whit3rd
Jan31-09, 06:27 AM
On Jan 29, 1:59*pm, TheoreticalPhysics <phys...@graduate.org> wrote:
> > [[Mod. note -- I suppose you could have a suitable (radio) EMR
> > interact with non-electron (eg proton, ion, ...) charged-particle
> > beam. =A0-- jt]]
>
> Does anyone have a references to this type of interaction?

The little one in my microwave oven, working on electrons,
is called a 'magnetron'. Examples of other particle twiddlers
are 'proton synchrotrons', 'heavy-ion accelerators',
'mass spectrometers', 'sputtering guns', etc.