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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Feb10-09, 06:00 AM
Just musing on Many Worlds and the possibility that the LHC might create
an instantly global catastrophic event at full energy.

If both are true all we will ever see is the LHC constantly breaking
down when there is any attempt to run it at full power.

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Dirk

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Uncle Al
Feb10-09, 06:00 AM
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>
> Just musing on Many Worlds and the possibility that the LHC might create
> an instantly global catastrophic event at full energy.
>
> If both are true all we will ever see is the LHC constantly breaking
> down when there is any attempt to run it at full power.

Long Island's heavy ion collider. No Raganarok, no Seventh Seal. The
universe got all its kinks worked out during inflation.

The aborning LHC disaster is no Higgs and no SUSY partners. Modern
theory evolves from deep symmetries but physical observables evolve
from symmetry breakings. Modern theory will be demonstrated to be
magnificently wrong. Perturbation treatments, if extrapolated, are
all but guaranteed to be predictively wrong.

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Tom Roberts
Feb11-09, 06:11 AM
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> Just musing on Many Worlds and the possibility that the LHC might create
> an instantly global catastrophic event at full energy.
> If both are true all we will ever see is the LHC constantly breaking
> down when there is any attempt to run it at full power.

Why should a factor of 7 make such a huge difference in this? -- after
all, it does not happen at the Tevatron.

For that matter, why should a factor of 1 or a factor of 0.001 make such
a difference? -- after all this does not happen for very high energy
cosmic rays (of 14 TeV or 14 PeV total energy).


Tom Roberts

Igor Khavkine
Feb11-09, 06:11 AM
On Feb 9, 6:13 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just musing on Many Worlds and the possibility that the LHC might create
> an instantly global catastrophic event at full energy.
>
> If both are true all we will ever see is the LHC constantly breaking
> down when there is any attempt to run it at full power.

It's also possible that, if both are true, that the LHC functions
without a hitch and the resulting global catastrophic event
significantly shortens everyone's life spans.

Needless to say, that these are highly hypothetical questions.

Igor

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Feb11-09, 06:11 AM
Igor Khavkine wrote:
> On Feb 9, 6:13 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Just musing on Many Worlds and the possibility that the LHC might create
>> an instantly global catastrophic event at full energy.
>>
>> If both are true all we will ever see is the LHC constantly breaking
>> down when there is any attempt to run it at full power.
>
> It's also possible that, if both are true, that the LHC functions
> without a hitch and the resulting global catastrophic event
> significantly shortens everyone's life spans.
>
> Needless to say, that these are highly hypothetical questions.

True.
I'm not trying to claim that any of the above is plausible.
Just where the logic goes if one takes a couple of bizarre axioms.
Still, if the LHC (or any similar machine) still hasn't run at full
power in 20 years time I would like the effect named after me :-)

[[Mod. note -- John G. Cramer has a science fiction novel
"Einstein's Bridge" based on a vaguely similar theme. -- jt]]

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Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff