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lolgarithms
Jun29-09, 07:42 PM
ok...

some faith healers/televangelists have websites where people can post prayer/healing requests and praise reports. where do these praise reports that say they has been healed really come from?

(This is not a discussion about religious dogma, but about scientifically falsifiable cases of faith healing.)

mgb_phys
Jun29-09, 07:59 PM
Well obviously by people who been cured by their faith.
You don't think there might be something underhand going on do you - you sceptic?

lolgarithms
Jun29-09, 08:03 PM
edit: "faith healing" is not limited to being cured by faith, some evangelists believe that god is healing people.

are there any verifiable reports or better yet, videos taken by a 3rd party ?

aquitaine
Jun29-09, 10:33 PM
edit: "faith healing" is not limited to being cured by faith, some evangelists believe that god is healing people.


Same difference.

Ivan Seeking
Jun29-09, 11:01 PM
Would the so-called strong placebo effect [assuming it is real] be considered a form of faith healing?

DaveC426913
Jun29-09, 11:05 PM
edit: "faith healing" is not limited to being cured by faith, some evangelists believe that god is healing people.

are there any verifiable reports or better yet, videos taken by a 3rd party ?

Wait. Did you just ask if there are any verifiable reports of people being healed by God?

:bugeye::biggrin:

Ivan Seeking
Jun29-09, 11:30 PM
Wait. Did you just ask if there are any verifiable reports of people being healed by God?

:bugeye::biggrin:

Yes, you know, it would be like the end of the The Stand. :biggrin:

I guess such a claim would require about as much...

arunma
Jun30-09, 02:36 AM
I've heard that the televangelist Benny Hinn (I think he's currently under a federal investigation) has claimed to heal many people of deadly illnesses. If you check the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Hinn), you'll find that these claims are highly questionable.

lolgarithms
Jun30-09, 02:50 AM
also, are there any verifiable or otherwise notorious reports of congenital disabilities being healed?

math_04
Jun30-09, 08:09 AM
Would the so-called strong placebo effect [assuming it is real] be considered a form of faith healing?

I guess it inadvertently causes healing. There is quite a debate about the placebo effect and whether it really does contribute to healing.


are there any verifiable reports or better yet, videos taken by a 3rd party ?

Probably not, I can just imagine the rage that a CEO of a major pharmaceutical company would have at the mere mention of the words 'faith healing'. :rofl:

Moonbear
Jun30-09, 10:57 AM
Would the so-called strong placebo effect [assuming it is real] be considered a form of faith healing?

Perhaps it treats faith illness?

drizzle
Jun30-09, 02:30 PM
this reminds me of some [pseudo science] necklaces that have the power to heal! as assumed by some people who like to sell those necklaces and uses scientific wording like [nano] to convince the lay people!!

DaveC426913
Jun30-09, 03:57 PM
I've heard that the televangelist Benny HinnIs that what Benny Hinn does?? I had no idea. All I know if the title of the show.

Whenever I see the title flash by on my TV guide, I always immediately think "Benny Hill".

mgb_phys
Jun30-09, 04:27 PM
I guess it inadvertently causes healing. There is quite a debate about the placebo effect and whether it really does contribute to healing.
There's a Dilbert(?) cartoon like that.
In trials the placebo worked better than our product - what do we do?
New marketing slogan = Nothing works better than New Super Drug(tm)

lolgarithms
Jun30-09, 05:15 PM
Probably not, I can just imagine the rage that a CEO of a major pharmaceutical company would have at the mere mention of the words 'faith healing'.

Haha. if faithhealing really worked for everyone, then all the pharmaceuticals should have gone bankrupt.

In trials the placebo worked better than our product - what do we do?
my slogan would be: Focus the power of your mind on these [placebo]. let the healing power power will amplify and reflect upon you! :)