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Lancelot59
Oct27-09, 08:42 PM
Apparently I've caught the stupid virus and absolutely fail at chemistry.

Todays prelab: 0.010L of .1000M HA with a pKa of 7.00 is titrated with 0.1000M NaOH over a series of volumes:

L NaOH
.0000
.0010
.0020
.0050
.0090
.0098
.0100
.01010
.01020
.01100
.01200

Step 1: Get the pH at zero. Hooray for ICE tables, I got the correct pH of 4.

Then I set sail for fail with a method my teacher showed us in class.

So we can see clearly that the equivalence point is at 10ml or 0.010. Oh my! It looks like we can cut everything up into nice neat percentages!

L NaOH
.0000 0%
.0010 10%
.0020 20%
.0050 50%
.0090 90%
.0098 98%
.0100 100%

For the rest of them Kb comes into the mix. Then I did this:

Ka = [H3O][A]/[HA]

Well it looks like I can just replace the [A]/[HA] with the percentage as a decimal!

Ka = [H3O](concentration coefficient)

Then after some more fun:

pH = -log(Ka/(concentration coefficient))

Which is exactly what my teacher did and class for a different setup, and wound up with me getting .25/2 on the pre-lab.

What went wrong here? Is this even right?

Borek
Oct28-09, 04:48 AM
Well it looks like I can just replace the [A]/[HA] with the percentage as a decimal!

No, percentage is not [A-]/[HA] but [A-]/[analytical concentration of the acid].

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Lancelot59
Oct28-09, 09:45 AM
The way she used it seems to make percentage the percent until completion...

Here is the slide with the work on it...attachment pending.

Borek
Oct28-09, 01:56 PM
Right down: 25/75 is OK, but it is not 25%.

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Lancelot59
Oct28-09, 11:04 PM
...Ugh. That's a massive fail. Alright, something to remember for next time. So for my situation it would be things like 98/2 and whatnot?

Gotcha. Thanks for that...I need to practice a lot more.