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I don't want to, I love my place. It's my dream place. But my older daughter, the Spawn of Evo, has just moved in with her dad to save money, and now my youngest, Evo Child wants to move in with me to save money and cut down an almost 100 mile daily commute.
The problem is that I have a 1 bedroom apartment now and we'll need two bedrooms if she moves in.
We've been looking at the 2 bedroom apts here in my complex, and they are gorgeous, but there are pros and cons to each, the worst for me is that I will leave my ravine with the babbling brook and the beautiful stone arch over my patio and my squirrels and bunnies.
More to follow on the pros and cons of the two units we're considering.
One has no kitchen space, but a gorgeous garden bath that is to die for and a huge living room. It has no garages though, and no nearby parking.
The other has an attached two car garage, a large kitchen, and a lot of windows. Unfortunately it has a very steep staircase that ends in a tiled floor and a large window in front. This means I will tumble down the stairs, bounce off the tile and fly through the glass window. Evo Child is terrified. She estimates I will kill myself in less than a week.
Moonbear
Nov22-09, 10:39 PM
I for one am glad to hear you will be moving further from the ditch of doom! And, with what you've been talking about at your own workplace perhaps putting your job on the line in the near future, it sounds like a wise move to cut expenses just in case the worst happens.
I don't know why you should move if the need for two bedroom is only temporary which I assume it is.
I'm so sorry to hear this :cry:.
Why don't we all pool our resources, buy a bar/scuba shop in the Caribbean, and go live happily ever after?
I for one am glad to hear you will be moving further from the ditch of doom! And, with what you've been talking about at your own workplace perhaps putting your job on the line in the near future, it sounds like a wise move to cut expenses just in case the worst happens.
Actually, my expenses will increase several hundred dollars to pay for the 2 bedroom. The Evo child wants to cut costs by moving in with me, I will be taking on the added rent so that she can cut back on work and concentrate more on school. But then she says when she graduates she will take care of me. :uhh:
OK, if you're willing to toughen up and learn to tolerate (not love!) Maine winters, there is a 2-br house located above a double-car garage very nearby. It is $123K and is quite fancy inside. You might have to suck up to somebody at TDS in order to get employment, but that's not all that hard.
This is the main thing, Evo Child wants the one with this bathtub. That bathroom is 11 x 12 feet and has a separate shower and double sink. That's a jacuzzi.
This is the main thing, Evo Child wants the one with this bathtub.
A deep recession is the perfect opportunity to learn the difference between a want and a need :smile:.
A deep recession is the perfect opportunity to learn the difference between a want and a need :smile:.Yes, and she realizes that we aren't geting the deluxe 3 bedroom.
I want my ravine. :(( She says that she won't let up on the apartment manager until I get a 2 bedroom back on my ravine, they are just occupied right now.
Moonbear
Nov22-09, 11:32 PM
Actually, my expenses will increase several hundred dollars to pay for the 2 bedroom. The Evo child wants to cut costs by moving in with me, I will be taking on the added rent so that she can cut back on work and concentrate more on school. But then she says when she graduates she will take care of me. :uhh:
I didn't realize this was "make mom pay for my rent" type of cutting expenses. I thought it was "cut down on cost of commuting and share rent with mom instead of paying for my own place" type of cutting expenses. If she thinks you're paying all the rent, ask her what color blanket she'd like for the couch. :rolleyes:
I didn't realize this was "make mom pay for my rent" type of cutting expenses. I thought it was "cut down on cost of commuting and share rent with mom instead of paying for my own place" type of cutting expenses. If she thinks you're paying all the rent, ask her what color blanket she'd like for the couch. :rolleyes:LOL. Actually I did. I told her she could move into my place for free.
She's offered to pay up to $200 a month. And take care of me. And all of my errands, do the shopping and the house cleaning, laundry, do my car maintenance, do the dog, etc...
So basically, I have nothing to do once I come home from work. She'll be my personal slave. Not too bad.
Hope you find a nicer place!:smile:
PS: How about asking her to move in with her bf?:biggrin:
martharon
Nov23-09, 05:23 AM
I think this recession has created a issue of oneness and many people will know what is true love and affection. i am happy for you that your daughter will be joining you and can have a happy joint family.
She'll be my personal slave. Not too bad.
Not too realistic. You are too soft.
Hope you find a nicer place!:smile:
PS: How about asking her to move in with her bf?:biggrin:
Poor Evo child bf has been strong armed into moving in with Evo.
Am I the only one to read between lines "to cut on costs we will make Evo pay for everything, even if she may lose her job any time"?
Topher925
Nov23-09, 10:44 AM
Your daughter could always move in with me, Evo. :!!)
Am I the only one to read between lines "to cut on costs we will make Evo pay for everything, even if she may lose her job any time"?That is a scary thing. If I were working for Evo's employer, I'd be looking for any way to create a soft(er) landing in case the ax falls, and not be taking on a more expensive lease. Maybe spring for a futon for the living room and double up in the current place.
My sister-in-law had worked at the local telecom for decades, and when she was about to turn 55, she was "offered" early retirement instead of termination. The greatly-reduced benefits looked better than 26 weeks of unemployment checks with no real prospect for a new job, so she took it.
Moonbear
Nov23-09, 11:12 AM
Am I the only one to read between lines "to cut on costs we will make Evo pay for everything, even if she may lose her job any time"?
Nope, that's how I'm reading it too. And I agree that past history suggests those promises of indentured servitude will only last until she's moved in, and then will vanish. Perhaps it's about time for her to learn that all those other indulgences are expenses that can be cut before you expect mom to pay the rent for you. Vacations...no. Nights out for dinner and drinking...no. New clothes...no. Buying lunch rather than making it...no.
No offense Evo, but your daughters have been over-indulged and have not learned to be frugal when times require it. They should be looking for ways to help cut YOUR expenses now too, especially now that they are both adults and should be independent and you're the one facing losing your job.
Vacations...no. Nights out for dinner and drinking...no. New clothes...no. Buying lunch rather than making it...no.
No:cry:
TheStatutoryApe
Nov23-09, 11:52 PM
Unfortunately it has a very steep staircase that ends in a tiled floor and a large window in front. This means I will tumble down the stairs, bounce off the tile and fly through the glass window. Evo Child is terrified. She estimates I will kill myself in less than a week.
Strategically placed cushions?
Vanadium 50
Nov24-09, 01:14 AM
This means I will tumble down the stairs, bounce off the tile and fly through the glass window. Evo Child is terrified. She estimates I will kill myself in less than a week.
Yes, but the bright side of this is that then she'll only need a one-bedroom. And I know where there's a vacancy with a beautiful view of the ravine.
Yes, but the bright side of this is that then she'll only need a one-bedroom. And I know where there's a vacancy with a beautiful view of the ravine.
:rofl: :uhh:
rolerbe
Nov24-09, 09:57 AM
Recalling an earlier thread, just make sure to check out the smoking neighbors in the new place. Fresh air!!
Recalling an earlier thread, just make sure to check out the smoking neighbors in the new place. Fresh air!!I think I've decided on the upstairs apartment because it has a practical kitchen. I've been by there a number of times and haven't seen crowds of people hanging around outside smoking like at my current place.
Although they all smoke, except for the guy to the north of me, we are really good friends, and I'm going to miss them. We are all squirrel and bunny lovers and we keep the critters pretty well fed. I'm going to really miss our "nature chats". The smokers are always thanking me for setting the food up on the squirrels "dinner tables". As soon as I start setting the feed out, their entire family comes out on the balcony to watch the action.
Although the new place is on the other side of the ravine, I won't have ground level access to set out food. Evo Child says I can toss food to them, but I was thinking that with all of the brilliant engineers here, that someone could devise a squirrel elevator to bring them up to my balcony to eat. I'm certain they could be trained to use it. :biggrin:
Although the new place is on the other side of the ravine, I won't have ground level access to set out food. Evo Child says I can toss food to them, but I was thinking that with all of the brilliant engineers here, that someone could devise a squirrel elevator to bring them up to my balcony to eat. I'm certain they could be trained to use it. :biggrin:You don't need an elevator for squirrels. If you hang a rope from your balcony railing, and they know there's food there, they'll climb up all by themselves. Just set out a bird-feeder with black-oil sunflower seeds in it. Squirrels know that when flocks of seed-eating birds are congregating, dinner's on.
... But then she says when she graduates she will take care of me. :uhh:
She didn't by any chance use the phrase "Bada bing, bada boom" at any time during that conversation did she?
She didn't by any chance use the phrase "Bada bing, bada boom" at any time during that conversation did she?Or "An offer you can't refuse."? :eek:
JasonRox
Nov24-09, 01:58 PM
My parents would never let me move in for FREE!
They would rather give me money to stay out of the house if I needed help financially. But no way can I move in and save money at their expense.
My parents would never let me move in for FREE!
They would rather give me money to stay out of the house if I needed help financially. But no way can I move in and save money at their expense.My ex husband offered my older daughter $700 a month to not move in with him, she moved in on him anyway.
Turns out Evo Child plans to pay me the difference between the old and new place, I didn't understand that. She also won a gift card for the Cheesecake Factory and she surprised me yesterday at lunch (she drove to my office) with a piece of white chocolate raspberry cheesecake. Then last night she dropped by with a hot apple turnover that she knew I liked. :!!)
I know where you can find a nice house overlooking a beautiful stream in a quiet neighborhood. Just be careful pulling into the garage.
How much does a house weigh, anyway? (http://majorhitwaves.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/bedtime-stories-5/)
"Let's see, my car insurance is with Geico and my home insurance is with State Farm. You think I should call AAA for this?"
Monique
Nov24-09, 05:39 PM
I know where you can find a nice house overlooking a beautiful stream in a quiet neighborhood. Just be careful pulling into the garage.
How much does a house weigh, anyway? (http://majorhitwaves.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/bedtime-stories-5/)
"Let's see, my car insurance is with Geico and my home insurance is with State Farm. You think I should call AAA for this?"
:rofl:
Moonbear
Nov24-09, 06:08 PM
Turns out Evo Child plans to pay me the difference between the old and new place, I didn't understand that.
That's much better! Though, still, it might be a better idea to set up a futon or something in the current place and take your time looking for another apartment until you're more sure of your job situation. You wouldn't want to get locked into a new, more expensive lease and lose your job unless your daughter could afford more of the rent in a pinch. And that would give you more time to look around and see if you could find something as nice but for less rent.
I know where you can find a nice house overlooking a beautiful stream in a quiet neighborhood. Just be careful pulling into the garage.
How much does a house weigh, anyway? (http://majorhitwaves.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/bedtime-stories-5/)
"Let's see, my car insurance is with Geico and my home insurance is with State Farm. You think I should call AAA for this?"
:rofl: Watch the first step out the front door!
:rofl: Watch the first step out the front door!They could cut out the end walls and hollow the interior and have a nice New England-style covered bridge!
She's offered to...do the dog, etc...
GASP!!!!
NO!!...REALLY????
Surely you're NOT going to let her do the dog!!!!
:rofl: :rofl::rofl:
They could cut out the end walls and hollow the interior and have a nice New England-style covered bridge!
There's probably no way they can repair the bridge without moving the house first. Otherwise, that would be such a cool idea! Especially if at least a few remnants of the intereior are left intact - kitchen sink, toilet, fireplace (of course, I doubt a mobile home has a fire place).
Come to think of it, did they ever find something to do with all those mobile homes FEMA bought after Katrina?
GASP!!!!
NO!!...REALLY????
Surely you're NOT going to let her do the dog!!!!
:rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl: tsu you crack me up, I wish that you'd post more often. You could win the funniest member award hands down!!
BTW, the annual funniest member voting will be starting in the next couple of weeks.
She's offered to pay up to $200 a month. And take care of me. And all of my errands, do the shopping and the house cleaning, laundry, do my car maintenance, do the dog, etc...
So basically, I have nothing to do once I come home from work. She'll be my personal slave. Not too bad.
Perfect. Yea PF. You could really get some work done here now.
But I would miss you going out on Sunday mornings feeding the birds and squirrels during chat.
So I take it that the job situation is not a problem?
But I would miss you going out on Sunday mornings feeding the birds and squirrels during chat.:cry: Me too.
So I take it that the job situation is not a problem?Her idea is that if I lose my job that she can cut some classes and work more to make up the difference. :uhh:
My boss says that since I'm the top ranked employee in our branch that I don't have to worry. Yeah, right.
If I did lose my job, I could just move back into a one bedroom again, but it wouldn't be in the woods with a babbling brook. I'm in my dream location right now. I thought I'd live here until I was carted away. :frown:
OH DEAR GOD, THERE IS A FLY IN HERE AND IT WON'T DIE. I've been spraying the sucker with Raid flying insect instant kill, and it's still flying. I thought I had drowned it a minute ago, it was completly covered in poison foam. IT WON'T DIE. :surprised
OH DEAR GOD, THERE IS A FLY IN HERE AND IT WON'T DIE.
Think about it - if you will not move, you will have to deal with it for the rest of your live.
magpies
Nov26-09, 03:30 AM
Interesting insects have become immune to raid already :)
physics girl phd
Nov27-09, 02:44 PM
I think this recession has created a issue of oneness and many people will know what is true love and affection.
That's what we think of our two bedroom for five!... usually... :biggrin:
:cry: Evo Child found a renter and they want to move in next week, and she said ok!!!!
So we're taking a model we don't really want becuase the one we want won't be read until Feb 6th.
:frown: :frown: :frown:
I mean, it's not bad, but the other one was PERFECT. I had squirrel trees, no one behind us, just a hill, wilderness, bunnies. The one we're taking would have a greater appeal to *normal* people, a nice groomed and landscaped large area. Not a squirrel in sight. Just pristine recently planted trees and shrubs and people with lovely patio furniture. :cry:
I HATE IT. It also has less windows, and a weird curved driveway.
Does anyone want an old Evo to move in with them? You have to have wilderness, a creek and wild animals.
Where's my Prozac?
Oh yeah, I don't take Prozac. :frown:
rewebster
Jan22-10, 08:30 PM
bummer---
well....what's your new address? I can catch and send one of the squirrels around here.
bummer---
well....what's your new address? I can catch and send one of the squirrels around here.Can you send a pair that can mate?
rewebster
Jan22-10, 08:34 PM
Can you send a pair that can mate?
well, yes, I CAN!!
but, first...
do you have enough nuts around the place?
zomgwtf
Jan22-10, 08:36 PM
Can you send a pair that can mate?
Evo what kind of things are you into :eek:
Evo what kind of things are you into :eek:You really don't want to know...
do you have enough nuts around the place?I'm nutty enough for a flock of squirrels. What do you call a bunch of squirrels?
Also, how many 22-23 year old men would be thrilled about moving in with their girlfriend's mother?
I feel so sorry for Evo Child's boyfriend, he's such a sweet guy. This has got to be the last thing he'd ever want.
But you cannot say no to her. She is so logical and so persuasive. And then she has those huge robin's egg blue almond shaped eyes with thick, long lashes, and that face she makes. Her friends all tell me it's not fair. They can't say no to her when she makes "the face".
rewebster
Jan22-10, 08:52 PM
I'm nutty enough for a flock of squirrels. What do you call a bunch of squirrels?
Also, how many 22-23 year old men would be thrilled about moving in with their girlfriend's mother?
I feel so sorry for Evo Child's boyfriend, he's such a sweet guy. This has got to be the last thing he'd ever want.
But you cannot say no to her. She is so logical and so persuasive. And then she has those huge robin's egg blue almond shaped eyes with thick, long lashes, and that face she makes. Her friends all tell me it's not fair. They can't say no to her when she makes "the face".
a bunch of squirrels? hmmm, an infestation or a squirrellot---
your daughter sounds cute---did she get it from her dad?
moving, and moving from a nice place to 'not a nicer place' are two diff things
your daughter sounds cute---did she get it from her dad?hmmmph.
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2874/mevy9.jpg
rewebster
Jan22-10, 09:03 PM
can you post the unphotoshopped version?
I can't imagine moving---I just can't---you've been there, for what 2-3 years already?
can you post the unphotoshopped version?The original looked purple due to the light, a friend made me look human, I posted both photos here, and everyone chose the human one. The purple one is on here.
Here you go
http://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5633&d=1132548752
Another http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/158/fmd2rv7.jpg
And another http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/4029/picture2684px.jpg
rewebster
Jan22-10, 09:23 PM
so, which one do you think looks more like 'you' ?
are those all freckles? everywhere?
my friends used to call me when they were moving
(because I had either a truck or a van all the time)---helping someone move was a lot easier than my moves
TheStatutoryApe
Jan22-10, 09:25 PM
Those are some lovely pictures of your daughter Evo. ;-)
There's lots of squirrels at my work here. One day I had one run right up to me and look up at me like "Hey bub, got any nuts?"
We only have fake streams though and the apartments are all really close together.
so, which one do you think looks more like 'you' ?
are those all freckles? everywhere?I don't have many freckles, probably uneveness on my chest from sun exposure.
Evo Child last summer http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8252/evochild1.jpg
TheStatutoryApe
Jan22-10, 09:29 PM
Evo Child last summer
She doesn't look quite the same as she does in those other pictures. :-/
She doesn't look quite the same as she does in those other pictures. :-/yeah, she looks 32 years younger. :tongue2:
rewebster
Jan22-10, 09:36 PM
you gotta find some guy to shack up with soon,evo, esp. if her boyfriend is moving in too. Men need that 'alone time' with their woman...
how soon do YOU have to move from your place now?
you gotta find some guy to shack up with soon,evo, esp. if her boyfriend is moving in too. Men need that 'alone time' with their woman...
how soon do YOU have to move from your place now?Eh, no one wants me, I'm fine with that.
I'm going to keep my place for a few weeks so I can move out slowly.
rewebster
Jan22-10, 09:53 PM
oh, evo, probably every guy wants you--I don't think that's the problem
good--at least you're not going to be rushed to pack
Dang, it's going to be tough to move with all that snow on the ground :frown:...I hope you'll have lots of help!
Dang, it's going to be tough to move with all that snow on the ground :frown:...I hope you'll have lots of help!Just the hired help. :frown:
rewebster
Jan22-10, 10:04 PM
hasn't there been (more than) a few sit coms with a couple and a parent living with them?
1) King of Queens
2)
I gotta start thinking about a theme song for you and 'the kids'
hey, your daughter and her bf will be there to help you to pack and move
Evo what kind of things are you into :eek:Power tools, dangerous hand-tools, life-threatening situations in general. You know...
I'm nutty enough for a flock of squirrels. What do you call a bunch of squirrels?A Mafia.
Eh, no one wants me, I'm fine with that.
I'm going to keep my place for a few weeks so I can move out slowly.Durn! I'm currently engaged (35 years next month) or I'd offer you a place to store your kit. Only 'cause you're nice, though. I ain't convinced you can hoe a row of corn or bake a pot o' beans. Just sayin'
Proton Soup
Jan22-10, 11:28 PM
there's always chipmunks
there's always chipmunksHere's one of my 'munks climbing me to see if I have seeds for her. Sweeties!
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/munkonleg.jpg
zomgwtf
Jan22-10, 11:48 PM
If a chimpmunk ever got close enough to me to climb up my leg I would try to stomp on it for sure. I like nature and animals and all but squirels and the like I'd rather have my distance from.
If a chimpmunk ever got close enough to me to climb up my leg I would try to stomp on it for sure. I like nature and animals and all but squirels and the like I'd rather have my distance from.'Munks are sweeties. They are the cuddliest wild critters ever, and they will steal your heart if you ever get to know them. They will act all excited when they see you and dash to you as quickly as they can. They are not vocal, but they are very demonstrative.
BTW, I shoot red squirrels on sight.
TheStatutoryApe
Jan23-10, 12:07 AM
'Munks are sweeties. They are the cuddliest wild critters ever, and they will steal your heart if you ever get to know them. They will act all excited when they see you and dash to you as quickly as they can to you. They are not vocal, but they are very demonstrative.
They sing a great christmas carol too.
Just the hired help. :frown:
You have said something about Evo Child and her BF? Let him know what it means to live with you-want-me-as-a-mother-in-law - the sooner the better.
Jokes aside: they really should be involved in moving. After all you sacrifice place you like to help them.
rewebster
Jan23-10, 10:07 AM
I was wondering (unless I missed it) why you are moving in with them. Wouldn't be better, in a lot of ways, just to help them a little with the rent (does your ex help at all?) ?
Moonbear
Jan23-10, 10:10 AM
Hmm...if a place you like better becomes available Feb 6 and your daughter needs to be out of her place sooner, is that really sufficient reason to hastily move to a place that isn't as desireable? You're already sacrificing a lot to help her financially, and Feb. 6 is not that far away. Surely she and her bf could camp out on sofas or an inflatable mattress on the floor for a couple weeks until the better apartment is ready. They're still plenty young enough to manage that for a short time in the interest of finding a place you'll enjoy more in the long term. Afterall, they could decide to move back out in 6 months and you're stuck there...it should be a place you enjoy. Really, it's not that implausible that an adult child and her boyfriend living with her mom is not going to work well as a long-term living arrangement, no matter how good of a relationship the two of you have (how long will the bf be able to stand it for?).
rewebster
Jan23-10, 10:20 AM
Hmm...if a place you like better becomes available Feb 6 and your daughter needs to be out of her place sooner, is that really sufficient reason to hastily move to a place that isn't as desireable? You're already sacrificing a lot to help her financially, and Feb. 6 is not that far away. Surely she and her bf could camp out on sofas or an inflatable mattress on the floor for a couple weeks until the better apartment is ready. They're still plenty young enough to manage that for a short time in the interest of finding a place you'll enjoy more in the long term. Afterall, they could decide to move back out in 6 months and you're stuck there...it should be a place you enjoy. Really, it's not that implausible that an adult child and her boyfriend living with her mom is not going to work well as a long-term living arrangement, no matter how good of a relationship the two of you have (how long will the bf be able to stand it for?).
good thinking, MB
Hmm...if a place you like better becomes available Feb 6 and your daughter needs to be out of her place sooner, is that really sufficient reason to hastily move to a place that isn't as desireable? You're already sacrificing a lot to help her financially, and Feb. 6 is not that far away. Surely she and her bf could camp out on sofas or an inflatable mattress on the floor for a couple weeks until the better apartment is ready. They're still plenty young enough to manage that for a short time in the interest of finding a place you'll enjoy more in the long term. Afterall, they could decide to move back out in 6 months and you're stuck there...it should be a place you enjoy. Really, it's not that implausible that an adult child and her boyfriend living with her mom is not going to work well as a long-term living arrangement, no matter how good of a relationship the two of you have (how long will the bf be able to stand it for?).Evo Child made a convincing case. She said the other apt faces an open field and the trees are pretty far away and we could see no squirrel nests, she said I'd probably just attract field mice. The apt that's available now is about a block from the ravine and the squirrels will have a clear view of my patio. If I put up a bird feeder, they will see the activity and will be at my patio like white on rice. :biggrin: I guess it is pretty pathetic that my main activity is watching rodents scurrying around. :uhh:
Aren't you old (:uhh:) enough to start thinking about the place you want to live after retiring? :biggrin:
Evo Child made a convincing case.
Hardly suprising:
But you cannot say no to her. She is so logical and so persuasive. And then she has those huge robin's egg blue almond shaped eyes with thick, long lashes, and that face she makes. Her friends all tell me it's not fair. They can't say no to her when she makes "the face".
I was wondering (unless I missed it) why you are moving in with them. Wouldn't be better, in a lot of ways, just to help them a little with the rent (does your ex help at all?) ?Their utilities aren't included in their rent, they have to pay water, trash, cable, internet and electricity. Except for internet and electricity, everything else is included in my rent for a flat fee, $10 a month covers water and trash, for example, I just paid a $230 for her water bill, that was a 2 month bill. With all of her utilities, she pays more per month for her place than I pay for mine. So having them move in with me, even though it's a larger place, will save about $600 a month, and I won't have to help them out anymore, they can easily pay me the difference in the rent. Plus her boyfriend is a neat freak, so he loves to clean, he'll be doing a lot of the housework, which is fine with me.
Hardly suprising:She wants to be a lawyer, perfect choice. :tongue:
Moonbear
Jan23-10, 07:06 PM
Evo Child made a convincing case. She said the other apt faces an open field and the trees are pretty far away and we could see no squirrel nests, she said I'd probably just attract field mice. The apt that's available now is about a block from the ravine and the squirrels will have a clear view of my patio. If I put up a bird feeder, they will see the activity and will be at my patio like white on rice. :biggrin: I guess it is pretty pathetic that my main activity is watching rodents scurrying around. :uhh:
Hmm...with that information, I would agree with her. A block from the ravine sounds like a MUCH better location for you. :biggrin:
I hope she and her boyfriend round up every friend they have to help you move. Last time you moved, you broke too many things trying to do it yourself...mostly your bones! :eek: Since you're moving within the same apartment complex, it should be quick work if they round up a bunch of people to just pick up stuff and carry it and immediately put it away in a similar place to where it came from so you don't have to pack and unpack.
Moonbear
Jan23-10, 07:07 PM
Plus her boyfriend is a neat freak, so he loves to clean, he'll be doing a lot of the housework, which is fine with me.
Hmmm...I have a spare bedroom. :uhh:
Edit: Wait a minute! Which of them is running up a $230 water bill for just two months?! I can't remember ever having more than a $50 water bill QUARTERLY, even when watering the lawn and garden in the summer! How does someone run up that much of a bill living in an apartment?
rewebster
Jan23-10, 07:18 PM
... and I won't have to help them out anymore, they can easily pay me the difference in the rent.
well, that's the (your) plan...
:wink:
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Everytime I've ever made the move to co-habitate, for some reason, no money was 'saved'---more was spent than before, with all the new activities
When I was in college, I was a Spartan. Minimal furnishings, shelves made of cinderblock and boards, or perhaps milk-crates and boards, and the place was spotless. I can clutter up the place with stuff now, but I'm still a fan of "clean".
There were two young ladies who lived across the street from me in college, and they would rave about my apartment. I'd cook for them and they'd bring wine and appetizers. I had an older friend in Bangor who was gay (flamboyantly so!) and he kept his apartment perfectly clean, also. We all got along. I loved attending Tommy's parties - he and his buddies were geniuses at laying out opulent spreads for parties on a shoestring budget. I'd bring some top-shelf liquor as gifts to replenish what they would lay out, but there was no way to properly compensate him or his friends for all the other treats.
Hmmm...I have a spare bedroom. :uhh:
Edit: Wait a minute! Which of them is running up a $230 water bill for just two months?! I can't remember ever having more than a $50 water bill QUARTERLY, even when watering the lawn and garden in the summer! How does someone run up that much of a bill living in an apartment?I know, I was shocked when I saw what her bills run. They're not home that much and they eat out most of the time, so very few dishes. When I was at her place around Christmas, there were no leaky faucets, the toilet shut off properly. I'm wondering how accurate those water readings are. I may ask her for more copies of bills. I wonder if there could be a leak between her apartment and the water main, or a faulty meter.
rewebster
Jan23-10, 07:31 PM
I know, I was shocked when I saw what her bills run. They're not home that much and they eat out most of the time, so very few dishes. When I was at her place around Christmas, there were no leaky faucets, the toilet shut off properly. I'm wondering how accurate those water readings are. I may ask her for more copies of bills. I wonder if there could be a leak between her apartment and the water main, or a faulty meter.
Is she the daughter that left a lot of stuff including that almost new vacuum behind when she moved one time?
I got a funny feeling that the daughter and her BF will be saving some of their money on rent and utilities at least.
Moonbear
Jan23-10, 07:38 PM
I know, I was shocked when I saw what her bills run. They're not home that much and they eat out most of the time, so very few dishes. When I was at her place around Christmas, there were no leaky faucets, the toilet shut off properly. I'm wondering how accurate those water readings are. I may ask her for more copies of bills. I wonder if there could be a leak between her apartment and the water main, or a faulty meter.
I would very much suspect a leak somewhere. That's easy to test. Turn all the water off in the place, check the meter, go do something for a couple hours, check the meter again and see if it has changed. Unless she and her boyfriend are each taking 2 hour showers every day, it makes no sense otherwise.
rewebster
Jan23-10, 07:42 PM
I would very much suspect a leak somewhere. That's easy to test. Turn all the water off in the place, check the meter, go do something for a couple hours, check the meter again and see if it has changed. Unless she and her boyfriend are each taking 2 hour showers every day, it makes no sense otherwise.
That was happening a lot at that period of my life--not 'each' though
TheStatutoryApe
Jan23-10, 10:26 PM
That was happening a lot at that period of my life--not 'each' though
I was thinking something similar.
Proton Soup
Jan23-10, 10:35 PM
I would very much suspect a leak somewhere. That's easy to test. Turn all the water off in the place, check the meter, go do something for a couple hours, check the meter again and see if it has changed. Unless she and her boyfriend are each taking 2 hour showers every day, it makes no sense otherwise.
i would check the toilets. a leaky flapper valve will do it, or otherwise maladjusted. just keep your ears open and you'll hear it running.
i would check the toilets. a leaky flapper valve will do it, or otherwise maladjusted. just keep your ears open and you'll hear it running.I checked that, it was fine.
GeorginaS
Jan23-10, 11:08 PM
I'd check the faulty metre idea. I had a faulty power metre in one apartment I was living in. Every few months the metre reading guy would actually take a reading -- rather than the utility company estimating -- and I'd wind up with a $200+ power bill. It made no sense. It was a one-bedroom apartment, I worked all day and didn't leave lights on. I did one load of laundry a week. I didn't ever use the dishwasher. And yet, somehow, I was eating up hundreds of dollars worth of power for around 850 square feet of space in a month, whereas my 2,500+ square foot house had power bills of around $70 a month. And that was with living with someone who did laundry every other day and ran the dishwasher in between. Who left every light on, constantly, and left teevees going and ran air conditioners and, and, and.
After three ginormous bills, and several serious arguments with the power company, I was finally able to get the building manager involved to check my metre for me. It was in a locked utility room in the building's basement. The little wheel on the metre was just spinning. I'm amazed the power company hadn't reported me to the RCMP as a suspected grow-op, because my power usage -- according to the metre -- was off the charts.
Anyway, fixed metre, bill dropped to between $15 and $20 a month. So.
rewebster
Jan24-10, 11:11 AM
even if they did use a lot of water before, they may change their habits when you all move in together
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evo, you're still pretty happy about getting to be 'closer' to your daughter and her boyfiend, right?
Astronuc
Jan24-10, 01:42 PM
I know, I was shocked when I saw what her bills run. They're not home that much and they eat out most of the time, so very few dishes. When I was at her place around Christmas, there were no leaky faucets, the toilet shut off properly. I'm wondering how accurate those water readings are. I may ask her for more copies of bills. I wonder if there could be a leak between her apartment and the water main, or a faulty meter. Sounds like a water leak after the meeter. As some suggested - one would have to shut everything off and check over a 24 or 48 period to see if the meter needle moved.
Astronuc
Jan24-10, 01:45 PM
Their utilities aren't included in their rent, they have to pay water, trash, cable, internet and electricity. Except for internet and electricity, everything else is included in my rent for a flat fee, $10 a month covers water and trash, for example, I just paid a $230 for her water bill, that was a 2 month bill. With all of her utilities, she pays more per month for her place than I pay for mine. So having them move in with me, even though it's a larger place, will save about $600 a month, and I won't have to help them out anymore, they can easily pay me the difference in the rent. Plus her boyfriend is a neat freak, so he loves to clean, he'll be doing a lot of the housework, which is fine with me. Hopefully the savings can go into an annuity or some other investment.
rewebster
Jan26-10, 06:53 PM
Evo Child last summer http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8252/evochild1.jpg
I went back reading some of the thread---
I guess I was thinking this but didn't write it:
yes---you and your daughter do have some similar traits---
rewebster
Jan27-10, 03:47 PM
I don't have many freckles, probably uneveness on my chest from sun exposure.
Those 'freckles' I think are made in the camera. I jist found a photo that was taken of me in low light with my low pixel camera and it's (I've) got the same type of 'freckles'.
rewebster
Feb5-10, 07:07 PM
:cry: Evo Child found a renter and they want to move in next week, and she said ok!!!!
So we're taking a model we don't really want becuase the one we want won't be read until Feb 6th.
:frown: :frown: :frown:
I mean, it's not bad, but the other one was PERFECT. I had squirrel trees, no one behind us, just a hill, wilderness, bunnies. The one we're taking would have a greater appeal to *normal* people, a nice groomed and landscaped large area. Not a squirrel in sight. Just pristine recently planted trees and shrubs and people with lovely patio furniture. :cry:
I HATE IT. It also has less windows, and a weird curved driveway.
Does anyone want an old Evo to move in with them? You have to have wilderness, a creek and wild animals.
Where's my Prozac?
Oh yeah, I don't take Prozac. :frown:
I bet evo is having a lot of fun these last few days
The saga continues...
Ok, that last renter vanished, so we didn't move. BUT, Evo child's lease is up the end of May, and as luck would have it, my next door neighbor that has the unit we want is moving to California the end of May!!! I have already notified the office that we are taking it. We have a tentative move in date of June 12th.
This is perfect, I'm only moving 10 feet away.
The down side is that their patio only gets half as much sun as my patio, so I may not be able to grow anything. :frown:
Greg Bernhardt
Apr15-10, 01:50 PM
so I may not be able to grow anything. :frown:
only regret and resentment! jk, seems cool! go for it!
The down side is that their patio only gets half as much sun as my patio, so I may not be able to grow anything. :frown:All is not lost. Forget tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, cukes, etc, but there are lots of greens that thrive in shade/partial sun. Kale, chard, lettuce, spinach... You'll at least have the basics for salads, and you can plant most of them over and over again. No need with Black-Seeded Simpson leaf lettuce though. Cut it as you need it and it grows right back all season long, into the fall.
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/VegFruit/vegshady.htm
rewebster
Apr15-10, 02:35 PM
only regret and resentment! jk, seems cool! go for it!
yeah, go for it---what could go wrong?!
yeah, go for it---what could go wrong?!
Good Lord, man! :surprised Remember who you're talking about!!!! :rofl:
All is not lost. Forget tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, cukes, etc, but there are lots of greens that thrive in shade/partial sun. Kale, chard, lettuce, spinach... You'll at least have the basics for salads, and you can plant most of them over and over again. No need with Black-Seeded Simpson leaf lettuce though. Cut it as you need it and it grows right back all season long, into the fall.
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/VegFruit/vegshady.htmLooks like lettuce it will be.
I'm thinking of getting this non-bolting mix, just incase we get any heat this summer.
http://www.burpee.com/product/id/105542.do?KickerID=100421&KICKER
Good Lord, man! :surprised Remember who you're talking about!!!! :rofl:Tsu!! Yeah, don't forget that the day I moved here I fell within three feet of the back door and broke my arm, and now I've got to move 10 feet carrying boxes.
Just had a nice chat with the neighbor whose place we're moving into. He loves living on the ravine too. I'm going to miss him and his wife, such nice people.
I sure hope that the person thast moves into my place loves squirrels, they've become tame enough to knock on the windows when they're hungry. That might freak them out.
Will you have to rent a moving truck?
rewebster
Apr15-10, 05:03 PM
Tsu!! Yeah, don't forget that the day I moved here I fell within three feet of the back door and broke my arm, and now I've got to move 10 feet carrying boxes.
and the second of the ten plagues were the fleas
Will you have to rent a moving truck?Evo Child will hire movers for her stuff. My upstairs neighbors said to buy some beer and they'd help me move. I will most likely pay her mover's to carry my bulky furniture over to the garage for storage, we're going to be using her furniture.
and the second of the ten plagues were the fleasOh, that was awful.
Frame Dragger
Apr15-10, 05:58 PM
Well, having perused this thread I'm glad you lucked out! I hope Evo Child appreciates what momma is doing, not everyone would be this excellent.
EDIT: btw, the squirrels will almost certainly track you down by scent... they may not be geniuses, but they're not dim for small mammals either.
My upstairs neighbors said to buy some beer and they'd help me move.
Sounds like a good way to get the new apartment initiated with fresh tobacco smoke and maybe a little beer on the carpet as a bonus.
Anyway. Good luck on the move. Give me a call if you need some help.
Best idea for moving day: Tell Evo Child to shrink-wrap you to the couch and then let the movers in. :biggrin:
Frame Dragger
Apr15-10, 08:21 PM
Best idea for moving day: Tell Evo Child to shrink-wrap you to the couch and then let the movers in. :biggrin:
In your vision, there are air holes... yes? :wink:
In your vision, there are air holes... yes? :wink:
Well, :surprised of COURSE!!11 She IS my twin separated at birth, you know. :biggrin: Now, I'm not really all that sure what Evo Child's vision might be, tho... :devil:
Finally got the Evo Child moved into my place. (she had to move out of hers May 31st) Then the new place will be ready June 15th and we will need to move again.
I don't think my blood pressure can get any higher, this morning at the doctor it was 215/135
I don't think my blood pressure can get any higher, this morning at the doctor it was 215/135
Geez :eek: sounds like my Mom 30 years ago, after being called to see my teachers. But she had high bp even without my help.
I have seen my doc last week and she measured my blood pressure - so far, I am going by the book, 120/80 or something like that. I don't even know precisely, she just told me it was perfect. I can take some of your millimeters any time, just let me know where to collect them.
I don't think my blood pressure can get any higher, this morning at the doctor it was 215/135 With that kind of a blood pressure you should be in the ER! A diastolic pressure above 120 mm is a hypertensive emergency.
With that kind of a blood pressure you should be in the ER! A diastolic pressure above 120 mm is a hypertensive emergency.He thought his gauge had malfunctioned, so he took it several times with two gauges.
I can tell I don't feel right. I took 2 mg of ativan when I got home in addition to my BP med. This wasn't my normal doctor.
With that kind of a blood pressure you should be in the ER! A diastolic pressure above 120 mm is a hypertensive emergency.
I was just about to say this. Wow.:eek:
That is a rediculously high blood pressure to just be walking about.
In fact I thought that hypertension starts at 140 for sys. or 90 for dia. and that's just for stage one. Evo did you make a typo?
I don't know what the upper limit is for a blood pressure, but what you are describing is extremely high. The doctor assumed it was equipment malfunction? I think you should take a look at post no. 25 and the replies in this thread: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=405740&page=2. You really should check your blood pressure.
I don't know what the upper limit is for a blood pressure, but what you are describing is extremely high. The doctor assumed it was equipment malfunction? I think you should take a look at post no. 25 and the replies in this thread: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=405740&page=2. You really should check your blood pressure.
I know when you are having a stroke your blood pressure will be around 240/210 or something of that sort. I believe with Evo's BP she would be classified as hypertension stage 3. That's a world-scale though and I know Evo lives in USA, I don't know how it works down there. :tongue: I assume however that Evo's doctor is following procedure for such a patient, but maybe she should see another doctor to get their opinion. Especially with the sense that something is 'wrong' with her. (that she described in her last post)
I don't know what the upper limit is for a blood pressure, but what you are describing is extremely high. The doctor assumed it was equipment malfunction? I think you should take a look at post no. 25 and the replies in this thread: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=405740&page=2. You really should check your blood pressure.After he verified the reading was correct he looked a bit shocked, but he was doing a work physical and not supposed to get involved.
evo?
(stopping alarmist behavior now)
After he verified the reading was correct he looked a bit shocked, but he was doing a work physical and not supposed to get involved. It is shocking and very dangerous if the reading is correct. Your organs and blood vessels cannot handle high pressure. Anything above 160/95 is hypertensive, above ---/120 is an urgency.
It is shocking and very dangerous if the reading is correct. Your organs and blood vessels cannot handle high pressure. Anything above 160/95 is hypertensive, above ---/120 is an urgency.I'm glad you pointed that out. I'm going to have to go by the clinic.
I'm glad you pointed that out. I'm going to have to go by the clinic. Please do so. Taking a blood pressure only takes a minute, you really need to verify that nothing serious is going on. I hope it really was a wrong reading, but you need to know for sure.
ViewsofMars
Jun2-10, 06:08 PM
And Evo, don't drink coffee or smoke cigarettes for 30 minutes prior to the test! :smile:
How Is Blood Pressure Tested?
A blood pressure test is easy and painless. This test is done at a doctor's office or clinic.
To prepare for the test:
- Don't drink coffee or smoke cigarettes for 30 minutes prior to the test. These actions may cause a short-term rise in your blood pressure.
- Go to the bathroom before the test. Having a full bladder can change your blood pressure reading.
- Sit for 5 minutes before the test. Movement can cause short-term rises in blood pressure.
To measure your blood pressure, your doctor or nurse will use some type of a gauge, a stethoscope (or electronic sensor), and a blood pressure cuff.
Most often, you will sit or lie down with the cuff around your arm as your doctor or nurse checks your blood pressure. If he or she doesn't tell you what your blood pressure numbers are, you should ask.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/Hbp/HBP_Diagnosis.html
Don't worry, be happy.:smile: Hey, you look like a relative of mine only she has blonde hair.
I don't think my blood pressure can get any higher, this morning at the doctor it was 215/135
:bugeye: You should buy a bp cuff to keep track of it and report your records to your doctor. You've got to do something Evo.
I'm glad you pointed that out. I'm going to have to go by the clinic.
Do it. Do it now.
I have seen my doc last week and she measured my blood pressure - so far, I am going by the book, 120/80 or something like that.
Us skinny guys have similar pressures. I just took mine; 110/80. But I did have a beer which could have relaxed me some.
And Evo, don't drink coffee or smoke cigarettes for 30 minutes prior to the test! :smile:
Don't worry, be happy.:smile: Hey, you look like a relative of mine only she has blonde hair.I don't smoke, and I had no coffee this morning, only water.
ViewsofMars
Jun2-10, 09:36 PM
I don't smoke, and I had no coffee this morning, only water.
That's good news!:biggrin: How are you feeling? Did you go to the clinic?
That's good news!:biggrin: How are you feeling? Did you go to the clinic?Thanks for your concern. I just stayed in bed. The excruciating headache finally went away, so I think my BP went down.
:bugeye: You should buy a bp cuff to keep track of it and report your records to your doctor. You've got to do something Evo. I am going to buy a home BP unit.
ViewsofMars
Jun2-10, 10:30 PM
Thanks for your concern. I just stayed in bed. The excruciating headache finally went away, so I think my BP went down.
Evo, you are a smart cookie. Only you can decide if you should see a doctor. No one can make you, because you are an adult. :wink: I'm so pleased to learn that your headache is gone. Take it easy.
I'm going to tell you what I am going to do for myself right now, the girly thing. One strawberry bubble bath while indulging in a cup of strawberry sorbet. :biggrin: A subline relaxation. Ahhh to the seventh degree. :biggrin:
Nooooo! You cannot feel whether your bloodpressure goes down! And you have a suspected high bp and an escrutiating headache? Please do something, I don't want you suffering a stroke.
Actually, my expenses will increase several hundred dollars to pay for the 2 bedroom. The Evo child wants to cut costs by moving in with me, I will be taking on the added rent so that she can cut back on work and concentrate more on school. But then she says when she graduates she will take care of me. :uhh:
A Mother's love is the most selfless kind in existence. No bargain was needed, I'm sure.
Loren Booda
Jun3-10, 12:09 AM
Listen to Monique, Evo. Double check your blood pressure with your doctor. I believe the cuff is supposed to be held at heart-height.
Set aside a couple of hours for relaxation exercises. Treat yourself to some fruit.
Try not to ingest sodium, alcohol and caffeine in excess. Replace cigarettes with gentle physical exercise (like isometrics, which can be done anywhere).
Wishing you a fantastic wonderland for a yard, and a resplendent 2BR, too.
Proton Soup
Jun3-10, 12:50 AM
Listen to Monique, Evo. Double check your blood pressure with your doctor. I believe the cuff is supposed to be held at heart-height.
Set aside a couple of hours for relaxation exercises. Treat yourself to some fruit.
Try not to ingest sodium, alcohol and caffeine in excess. Replace cigarettes with gentle physical exercise (like isometrics, which can be done anywhere).
Wishing you a fantastic wonderland for a yard, and a resplendent 2BR, too.
i believe you also need to have a cuff appropriate to your arm size and place the tube over the brachial artery.
also, would like to re-echo the concerns here. that BP is dangerously high. talk to your doc about it. hopefully your kidneys haven't shut down or something else bad.
Math Is Hard
Jun3-10, 01:10 AM
Replace cigarettes with gentle physical exercise (like isometrics, which can be done anywhere).
Evo, doesn't smoke. But I think her BP goes up just before she gets fed up and tazes the smoker neighbors next door.
Just noticed Evo has her own "tag" below. :approve:
Nooooo! You cannot feel whether your bloodpressure goes down! And you have a suspected high bp and an escrutiating headache? Please do something, I don't want you suffering a stroke.
Exactly why it's called "the silent killer."
The doctor requires us to take our BP every day before medication and for my husband throughout the day x2.
TubbaBlubba
Jun3-10, 08:29 AM
I'd definitely get it checked up a few times, if you had a blood pressure that high, there's a risk that you've got an elevated blood pressure all the time, which can cause long-term damage. There's very effective medication against it with minimal bieffects (although there's a lot to go through before they give it to you). High blood pressure can also indicate a number of problems (primarily kidney obstructions and aorta obstructions, I believe).
Evo,
One more brick on the cart to say drop everything and go right now to get this checked.
You are a smart cookie and can make decisions by yourself, its true, but you cannot 'feel' your BP and not everyone knows how critical those levels are.
As was pointed out above, if those readings are true, there is real risk of stroke and organ damage. The doc who took them should have taken direct action at that moment regardless of what capacity he was operating in.
Here's a link: http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/guide/frequently-asked-questions
and the pertinent extract:
5. How Do I Know if I Have High Blood Pressure?
High blood pressure often doesn't have any symptoms, so you usually don't feel it. For that reason, hypertension is usually diagnosed by a health care professional on a routine visit. This is especially important if you have a close relative who has hypertension or embody risk factors for it.
If your blood pressure is extremely high, you may have unusually strong headaches, chest pain, and heart failure (especially difficulty breathing and poor exercise tolerance). If you have any of these symptoms, seek treatment immediately.
Hope all is well for you Evo. But don't fool around.
Thanks everyone for the concern. I am on BP medicine. The problem is my BP tends to have huge swings, sometimes it drops very low. I'm definitely getting a home BP machine so I can monitor it closer and if it seems to be running consistently high, I'm going to request that they increase the dosage.
Good news, Evo. BP needs monitoring, and you should keep a chart that you can take to your medical exams. If you want, you can write the readings on an old calendar (the day of the week doesn't matter, just the daily readings and the trends). You don't want to lose random functions, abilities, or sensations to a stroke (please take my word on this one!). Be well.
... If you want, you can write the readings on an old calendar (the day of the week doesn't matter, just the daily readings and the trends). You don't want to lose random functions, abilities, or sensations to a stroke (please take my word on this one!). Be well.
Good advice for someone experiencing problems.
For anyone with no problems, for example the many young healthy college students that come here, I recommend donating blood. Aside from the good altruistic deed you will be doing, you will get a blood-donor card with a record of your BP recorded every 8 weeks (if you give on time).
To highlight why this is important, I'll give a personal example. Although I donated blood, just to do a good deed, it turned out to be important for me because I had a clear record of my BP once I came down with a kidney disease. The doc measured 185/120, which was quite alarming, but his first question was what my past history was. I would have had no idea if I did not donate blood - hell, I didn't even know normal number range back then. However, I was able to take the donor card right out of my wallet and show it to him. It turned out my typical blood pressure before had been a consistent 90/60 (quite low). This told the doctor something different than if I had a natural borderline high BP of 140/80, for example.
Yes, you can buy your own BP machine and write it on a card, but that costs money and let's face it, you won't keep the card in your pocket. Plus, you won't get free cookies if you do it that way. :tongue2:
Oops, ... it looks like I just made a commercial. Oh well, so be it.
Good news, Evo. BP needs monitoring, and you should keep a chart that you can take to your medical exams. If you want, you can write the readings on an old calendar (the day of the week doesn't matter, just the daily readings and the trends). You don't want to lose random functions, abilities, or sensations to a stroke (please take my word on this one!). Be well.
I bought a monitor from Walgreens for about $30 and it has a memory feature that allows you to store 96 measurements with date and time stamps.
I bought a monitor from Walgreens for about $30 and it has a memory feature that allows you to store 96 measurements with date and time stamps.That's a nice feature. My wife has a rather primitive electronic meter that gives pretty repeatable results but still, the readings need to written down to establish trends so the doctor can adjust her meds.
rewebster
Jun3-10, 03:32 PM
Thanks everyone for the concern. I am on BP medicine. The problem is my BP tends to have huge swings, sometimes it drops very low. I'm definitely getting a home BP machine so I can monitor it closer and if it seems to be running consistently high, I'm going to request that they increase the dosage.
then it may not the the right strength, or the right med at all---I'd present that to the doctor next time you see him/her
When I worked in Psych, the adjusting of the strength of the different meds was often the most beneficial thing, ---counseling came in second place---so, take up meditation, too.
:confused: I can't believe it. Did you at least get it re-measured in the few days that have already passed?
:confused: I can't believe it. Did you at least get it re-measured in the few days that have already passed?
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She must have.
TubbaBlubba
Jun4-10, 09:33 AM
then it may not the the right strength, or the right med at all---I'd present that to the doctor next time you see him/her
Agreed. I don't know what treatment you're taking, but there are at least three mainstream medications that may work well on their own, or have to be synergized by eachother - Calcium inhibitors, ACE inhibitors and beta inhibitors. I eat calcium and ACE inhibitors myself, 10 milligrams a day. I have rather absurdly high blood pressure for my age (170/95 in a 17-year-old, good going).
... there are at least three mainstream medications that may work well on their own, or have to be synergized by eachother - Calcium inhibitors, ACE inhibitors and beta inhibitors...
Similar to ACE inhibitors are ACE blockers. I started on ACE inhibitors and experienced some side effects, even though they are supposed to have few of those. I had much better luck with the ACE blockers. The main difference is that the blocker simply binds to the enzyme and effectively deactivates it, while the inhibitor tries to prevent the manufacture of the enzyme. (at least that is a simple explanation from a layman to a layman)
I simply mention this for the benefit of anyone who tried, and did not like ACE inhibitors. There is another option available now.
TubbaBlubba
Jun4-10, 12:03 PM
Similar to ACE inhibitors are ACE blockers. I started on ACE inhibitors and experienced some side effects, even though they are supposed to have few of those. I had much better luck with the ACE blockers. The main difference is that the blocker simply binds to the enzyme and effectively deactivates it, while the inhibitor tries to prevent the manufacture of the enzyme. (at least that is a simple explanation from a layman to a layman)
I simply mention this for the benefit of anyone who tried, and did not like ACE inhibitors. There is another option available now.
I think you're referring to ARB:s, which plug the Angiotensin receptor rather than inhibiting the Angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE).
(Also, Calcium inhibitor was a bit inaccurate on my part - Calcium channel blocker would be correct)
I've been on several BP meds and all had bad side effects. I'm on an angiotensin II receptor antagonist with a thiazide diuretic. I don't seem to have any side effects from it. Well, exccept that now i am on potassium supplements from a deadly loss of potasium. I scored a 1 on a scale of 1-4 and had to be given intravenous potassium in the ER.
But wikipedia says this No benefits seen for
A large randomized trial following 4100+ men and women with heart failure and normal ejection fraction (>=45%) over 4+ years found no improvement in study outcomes or survival with irbesartan as compared to placebo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irbesartan
TubbaBlubba
Jun4-10, 03:15 PM
I've been on several BP meds and all had bad side effects. I'm on an angiotensin II receptor antagonist with a thiazide diuretic. I don't seem to have any side effects from it. Well, exccept that now i am on potassium supplements from a deadly loss of potasium. I scored a 1 on a scale of 1-4 and had to be given intravenous potassium in the ER.
But wikipedia says this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irbesartan
You lost the potassium due to the diuretic? Ouch!
I hope you find a set of medication that works for you.
I hope you find a set of medication that works for you.
We all hope. But I guess she is looking for a correct one for several years, and knowing Evo correct one just doesn't exist. She is in general... different.
Sometimes I wonder if she is not an alien.
rewebster
Jun4-10, 06:09 PM
We all hope. But I guess she is looking for a correct one for several years, and knowing Evo correct one just doesn't exist. She is in general... different.
Sometimes I wonder if she is not an alien.
if she moved to Poland without the right papers, she would be
ViewsofMars
Jun5-10, 06:37 PM
I don't want to, I love my place. It's my dream place. But my older daughter, the Spawn of Evo, has just moved in with her dad to save money, and now my youngest, Evo Child wants to move in with me to save money and cut down an almost 100 mile daily commute.
The problem is that I have a 1 bedroom apartment now and we'll need two bedrooms if she moves in.
We've been looking at the 2 bedroom apts here in my complex, and they are gorgeous, but there are pros and cons to each, the worst for me is that I will leave my ravine with the babbling brook and the beautiful stone arch over my patio and my squirrels and bunnies.
More to follow on the pros and cons of the two units we're considering.
One has no kitchen space, but a gorgeous garden bath that is to die for and a huge living room. It has no garages though, and no nearby parking.
The other has an attached two car garage, a large kitchen, and a lot of windows. Unfortunately it has a very steep staircase that ends in a tiled floor and a large window in front. This means I will tumble down the stairs, bounce off the tile and fly through the glass window. Evo Child is terrified. She estimates I will kill myself in less than a week.
and
Thanks everyone for the concern. I am on BP medicine. The problem is my BP tends to have huge swings, sometimes it drops very low. I'm definitely getting a home BP machine so I can monitor it closer and if it seems to be running consistently high, I'm going to request that they increase the dosage.
Ok. Here's my last post to you. Seems like you are going to consult with your doctor. That's good news!
Thanks for bringing up this topic. Hey, lookie what I found. High blood pressure (hypertension) - Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research (MFMER):
8. Reduce your stress
Stress or anxiety can temporarily increase blood pressure. Take some time to think about what causes you to feel stressed, such as work, family, finances or illness. Once you know what's causing your stress, consider how you can eliminate or reduce stress.
If you can't eliminate all of your stressors, you can at least cope with them in a healthier way. Take breaks for deep-breathing exercises. Get a massage or take up yoga or meditation. If self-help doesn't work, seek out a professional for counseling.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-blood-pressure/HI00027/NSECTIONGROUP=2
There's a great article, The Science of Heartache by Amy Sutherland, that covers stress hormones.
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/sex-and-relationships/heart-hurts
Evo, you earlier mentioned having a very bad headache. Interesting article here too about stress and headaches: http://www.jci.org/articles/view/41508?key=JtWzBvLn9C3r9GYN8BN8
I like what Gary Lewandowski, Ph.D. said, "Whatever cheers the mind may help cure the body.":smile: Wishing you the happiness you deserve. :smile:
We started moving yesterday. I'm worthless, I can't lift or bend. Evo Child and her BF are exhausted, and we still have an entire household (mine) to move. Evo Child also hurt her back. The fibers in the air from the new carpet and the paint fumes from my bathroom have made my eyes swell up and burn, and I can't stop sneezing. I did take some allergy meds, but they don't help much.
NO cabinets in the kitchen, insane, so I bought a nice shelving unit so I can turn the hall closet into a pantry. Says, "no tools required". Then you need a wrench and a rubber mallet (disclaimer is that these are *suggested*, as in "if you want to assemble this, we *suggest* you have the following tools".
The fibers in the air from the new carpet and the paint fumes from my bathroom have made my eyes swell up and burn, and I can't stop sneezing. I did take some allergy meds, but they don't help much.
:eek: On a day like today with temps in the 90s, opening the windows and using a fan to blow the stuff out wouldn't be an option?
:eek: On a day like today with temps in the 90s, opening the windows and using a fan to blow the stuff out wouldn't be an option?It would be if I wanted to add heat stroke to the list. :surprised
After 3 hours and constant setbacks, I am proud to have achieved a major milestone in assembling my shelves, all four posts are upright.
Unfortunately the little plastic brackets are too small to snap around the posts, and as a result they won't fit into the holes in the corners of the shelf, so if a fly lands on it, it will topple over again.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8371/017qa.jpg
It would be if I wanted to add heat stroke to the list. :surprised
:rofl:
After 3 hours and constant setbacks, I am proud to have achieved a major milestone in assembling my shelves, all four posts are upright.[/IMG]
Stop there. It's perfect for your new
http://www.americantechsupply.com/images/knurr-mec20056_small.jpg
network.
Astronuc
Jun26-10, 08:04 PM
After 3 hours and constant setbacks, I am proud to have achieved a major milestone in assembling my shelves, all four posts are upright.
Unfortunately the little plastic brackets are too small to snap around the posts, and as a result they won't fit into the holes in the corners of the shelf, so if a fly lands on it, it will topple over again.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8371/017qa.jpg Looks a bit like a medieval torture rack. :uhh:
:biggrin:
Aren't the 4 legs supposed to be parallel?
GeorginaS
Jun26-10, 08:11 PM
You lost the potassium due to the diuretic? Ouch!
Yep, I take prescription potassium -- Apo-K 600 mg -- to off-set loss as a result of a diuretic.
:rofl:
Stop there. It's perfect for your new
http://www.americantechsupply.com/images/knurr-mec20056_small.jpg
network.The link doesn't work.
Looks a bit like a medieval torture rack. :uhh:
:biggrin:
Aren't the 4 legs supposed to be parallel?:grumpy:
Moonbear
Jun27-10, 07:02 PM
He thought his gauge had malfunctioned, so he took it several times with two gauges.
I can tell I don't feel right. I took 2 mg of ativan when I got home in addition to my BP med. This wasn't my normal doctor.
What sort of doctors do you have in your area? First you have one put you on a diuretic without monitoring potassium until you were at dangerously low levels (potassium monitoring is standard for patients on diuretics), and then this one let you walk out after confirming a BP reading that high? I think you need to start bringing a lawyer with you on your doctor's visits. I've never heard of someone walking out the door of a doctor's office with a BP that high. Generally, they are transported out by ambulance to the nearest hospital ER!
If all these doctors trained at the same med school, I'd start looking for a doctor who trained somewhere else.
What sort of doctors do you have in your area? First you have one put you on a diuretic without monitoring potassium until you were at dangerously low levels (potassium monitoring is standard for patients on diuretics), and then this one let you walk out after confirming a BP reading that high? I think you need to start bringing a lawyer with you on your doctor's visits. I've never heard of someone walking out the door of a doctor's office with a BP that high. Generally, they are transported out by ambulance to the nearest hospital ER!
If all these doctors trained at the same med school, I'd start looking for a doctor who trained somewhere else.
That second doctor was for a company paid physical, he didn't even have a nurse. He's not supposed to share any diagnosis or give me medical advice, but I think this is a bit too much. Thanks for the feedback from everyone about this reading, I am going to make a complaint with the company.
The first doctor is my regular doctor, I know he's laid back and doesn't follow up. His nurse apparently realized this and a few months ago when my blood work was so bad, (not the potassium, the ER caught that, this was something else) the next time I came in she handed me a copy of it and said "this is serious", did he tell you this is serious? Uhm, no.
That second doctor was for a company paid physical, he didn't even have a nurse. He's not supposed to share any diagnosis or give me medical advice, but I think this is a bit too much. Thanks for the feedback from everyone about this reading, I am going to make a complaint with the company.
The first doctor is my regular doctor, I know he's laid back and doesn't follow up. His nurse apparently realized this and a few months ago when my blood work was so bad, (not the potassium, the ER caught that, this was something else) the next time I came in she handed me a copy of it and said "this is serious", did he tell you this is serious? Uhm, no.
:bugeye:
ViewsofMars
Jun28-10, 12:01 AM
It's been approximately 26 days since last I posted (#163) to this topic. Evo, you gave me the impression that you were going to see your primary care doctor and 'request that they increase the [BP medicine] dosage' and get a BP machine since I last posted here. Just wondering if you did see your primary care doctor since last I posted here? You just now stated, "The first doctor is my regular doctor, I know he's laid back and doesn't follow up. His nurse apparently realized this and a few months ago when my blood work was so bad, (not the potassium, the ER caught that, this was something else) the next time I came in she handed me a copy of it and said "this is serious", did he tell you this is serious? Uhm, no."
Evo, now you mention, "The fibers in the air from the new carpet and the paint fumes from my bathroom have made my eyes swell up and burn, and I can't stop sneezing. I did take some allergy meds, but they don't help much." Oh my! If I am in a field of weeds hiking, I have to take a tablet of over the counter Allergy Relief D though my primary care physician has prescribed an inhaler if I need it. I get to decide when I think I need it. That inhaler has lasted over a year and a half. I rarely need it. I try to avoid weeds when possible. :biggrin: I hope all goes well with your health issues.
Looks like you and your daughter moved in! :biggrin: Building shelves, eh? Lol, I just finished painting a metallic Venetian Gold on the trim of three freshly painted "Seattle Red" wooden shelves. Venetian Gold under my nails as I type this. :biggrin:
Moonbear, you said to Evo, “I think you need to start bringing a lawyer with you on your doctor's visits.” I’m curious, how many lawyers do you know that do that? How much do they charge the client? I’ve never known a lawyer to escort a patient to a doctor’s office nor have I ever heard a doctor mention that a patient was escorted by a lawyer to his/her office.
R.e. lawyers at a doctors office, FWIW:
We had to have a meeting with the staff from a hospice several years back. They wanted to kick my father-in-law out as he was 'not dying fast enough' (hospice gets paid a certain rate based on an average length of stay).
We had been getting nothing but run around and wanted to make sure we spoke with the Director, not just the nurses. So I dressed up in full suit and tie and brought a nice leather bound legal pad with me. They knew daughters 1 and 2. When they asked me who I was, I said "I'm just here to represent them" (the daughters).
Within minutes we were talking to the Director and established that there were no hard stay limits, just their averages for reimbursement. No more problems after that.
Moonbear
Jul1-10, 06:48 PM
Moonbear, you said to Evo, “I think you need to start bringing a lawyer with you on your doctor's visits.” I’m curious, how many lawyers do you know that do that? How much do they charge the client? I’ve never known a lawyer to escort a patient to a doctor’s office nor have I ever heard a doctor mention that a patient was escorted by a lawyer to his/her office.
Evo's known me long enough to understand my sense of humor. You might too and just be ribbing me back, but I don't know for certain, so in case it wasn't clear, it was my way of telling her that she doesn't seem to be getting good medical care from either her primary care physician or this second one, enough so that from at least what she tells us here, it raises questions of malpractice.
I would NOT choose a physician who is laid back and doesn't follow up. When their nurse tells you "this is serious" and goes behind the physician's back to tell you that, red flags should be raising up all over the place. This tells me that the nurse is aware the proper standards of care are not being followed and is speaking up out of her own ethical obligations to watch out for the best interests of the patients.
And, regardless of the role of the second physician, if he actually holds an M.D. degree and is licensed to practice, he should know the difference between high blood pressure that requires a referral to a regular physician and dangerously high blood pressure that is an emergent situation.
Evo, you've had such a plethora of health concerns that I really do think you need to find a new primary care physician who pays attention to all of them. I'm concerned there is something underlying all of them that is being missed. Maybe you can call the doc who saw you in the ER when your potassium plummeted dangerously low, and ask him or her for a referral to a primary care physician who is more competent since you landed in the ER because your current physician wasn't paying much attention.
Ditto what Moonbear said. IMHO, your tales, Evo, for both doc's are not even borderline malpractice, they are way over the line. It's an easter-egg hunt and a PIA to find the right MD for you, but its a critical investment in the future.
rewebster
Jul2-10, 11:59 AM
After 3 hours and constant setbacks, I am proud to have achieved a major milestone in assembling my shelves, all four posts are upright.
Unfortunately the little plastic brackets are too small to snap around the posts, and as a result they won't fit into the holes in the corners of the shelf, so if a fly lands on it, it will topple over again.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8371/017qa.jpg
it looks like it should be turned 180 degrees (it looks backward)---the long vertical looks like it should be against the wall---
then maybe you could put a screw through a couple of the vertical posts' holes to attach it to the wall
it looks like it should be turned 180 degrees (it looks backward)---the long vertical looks like it should be against the wall---
then maybe you could put a screw through a couple of the vertical posts' holes to attach it to the wallThe posts are leaning because it's missing the other 3 shelves.
It has been decided that it will take 3 people to assemble the shelves. I know how to assemble them, but don't have 5 arms and Evo Child and her BF aren't mechanically inclined, so they will function as supports for the heavy metal poles and shelves. We are waiting until all three of us are available at the same time.
Evo, you've had such a plethora of health concerns that I really do think you need to find a new primary care physician who pays attention to all of them. I'm concerned there is something underlying all of them that is being missed. That's what I'm thinking, each time they find something, they go "that's it!" and they stop looking. After the treatment fails I have to push very hard for them to start over.
The move is unending, I just had to pay for another week of rent on the old place because we still haven't moved all of my stuff out.
This is the new place, what a mess!!! The kitchen counter is covered with stuff as boxes are emptied and can't figure out where to put any of it.
I seriously don't know where we're going to put any of this, we've run out of room. We're going to have to sift through and decide what we can't live without and put the rest into the garage, which I am using as a storage space.
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2623/007waf.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2530/001klq.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2292/002wa.jpg
Of course the cows have to stay...that's a given.
Of course the cows have to stay...that's a given.NO ONE touches my cows!!! And I have several more boxes of cows and hippos (cows are kitchen, hippos are bedroom).
Lacy asked for a picture from the new place. You can see the creek below and this is my flat squirrel. He had me worried because he drags himself around like this, but I saw him stand up the other day, so he's ok, just weird.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6998/007wv.jpg
Astronuc
Jul2-10, 03:23 PM
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2292/002wa.jpg We have the same wooden chairs. :biggrin:
... and this is my flat squirrel. He had me worried because he drags himself around like this, but I saw him stand up the other day, so he's ok, just weird.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6998/007wv.jpg
Dang. I don't know what the deal is but I had to reload this page four time go get the full view of the squirrel.
Okay. I think I understand why his behavior. Either he's trying to sun himself or he actually has some reptile in him.
Dang. I don't know what the deal is but I had to reload this page four time go get the full view of the squirrel.
Okay. I think I understand why his behavior. Either he's trying to sun himself or he actually has some reptile in him.
Maybe his belly is itchy.
We have the same wooden chairs. :biggrin:
Guess, what: I have those chairs as well :rofl:
rewebster
Jul4-10, 11:00 AM
NO ONE touches my cows!!! And I have several more boxes of cows and hippos (cows are kitchen, hippos are bedroom).
Lacy asked for a picture from the new place. You can see the creek below and this is my flat squirrel. He had me worried because he drags himself around like this, but I saw him stand up the other day, so he's ok, just weird.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6998/007wv.jpg
he's a male squirrel---males like to lay like that...
We have the same wooden chairs. :biggrin:
Guess, what: I have those chairs as well :rofl:
Add me to the list also. :tongue:
Add me to the list also. :tongue:
That's a very popular and practical style of chair.
It took three of us, but the shelves are up. I'll post a picture later.
My blood pressure is down today, 159/117. I did buy a BP home monitor.
Ai, that is still way too high. It would be good to make a chart of how your bp varies during the day, now that you have a home meter. Please follow Moonbear her advice and find a good doc, we care about you!
Astronuc
Jul5-10, 08:58 PM
My blood pressure is down today, 159/117. I did buy a BP home monitor. That's down?!?!?!? :bugeye: :surprised :frown:
That's down?!?!?!? :bugeye: :surprised :frown:It was 215/135. I'm supposed to be in the hospital right now. I had quite a fight today with my doctor's nurses. He want's me admitted for a week. I can't do it.
Ack, now it's 179/109.
It was 215/135. I'm supposed to be in the hospital right now. I had quite a fight today with my doctor's nurses. He want's me admitted for a week. I can't do it.
Ack, now it's 179/109. You should place nothing above your health, you have your daughters who can take care of things while you are at the hospital. Seriously, consider it. Bring wireless internet with you so that you can surf the net while you're there.
How is it that we have people dropping these messages that their health is in danger, but they don't want to visit a doctor/ the hospital?
TubbaBlubba
Jul6-10, 03:12 AM
It was 215/135. I'm supposed to be in the hospital right now. I had quite a fight today with my doctor's nurses. He want's me admitted for a week. I can't do it.
Ack, now it's 179/109.
... Get into a freaking hospital NOW.
It was 215/135. I'm supposed to be in the hospital right now. I had quite a fight today with my doctor's nurses. He want's me admitted for a week. I can't do it.
Ack, now it's 179/109.
I'm sorry to say that if you keep on as you are, you may not have to go into the hospital, or finish the move, or anything else.
You are seriously freaking us out here. Please, please (please) get the medical attention you need.
I have a dr's appointment this afternoon. The last time I was in the hospital (last summer) my doctor agreed to discharge me 2 days early due to the incompetant nursing staff. I was better off at home, so I have no desire to go to the hospital. I definitely will never return to that hospital.
TubbaBlubba
Jul7-10, 10:49 AM
Walking around with a blood pressure like that WILL beyond a shadow of a doubt cause heart failure in the long-term (not to mention the risk of internal bleeding), so I sure hope you get to deal with it. Please, please take care of yourself.
Astronuc
Jul7-10, 11:16 AM
I have a dr's appointment this afternoon. The last time I was in the hospital (last summer) my doctor agreed to discharge me 2 days early due to the incompetant nursing staff. I was better off at home, so I have no desire to go to the hospital. I definitely will never return to that hospital. Um - find a different hospital. Is that possible out there? How about across the river?
With something like 179/109, my sister went to the ER.
With 215/135 - one could end up in the morgue. :frown:
Um - find a different hospital. Is that possible out there? How about across the river?
With something like 179/109, my sister went to the ER.
With 215/135 - one could end up in the morgue. :frown:It was 205/109last night. 199/117 after waking up from a nap. I'm hoping it's down when I go to the doctor, last time it was much lower and they didn't want to let me leave the office. Which is the wrong thing to do. It just stressed me out more.
Astronuc
Jul7-10, 11:27 AM
It was 205/109last night. 199/117 after waking up from a nap. I'm hoping it's down when I go to the doctor, last time it was much lower and they didn't want to let me leave the office. Which is the wrong thing to do. It just stressed me out more. Have EC or someone drive you to the docs. 199/117 is still too high. One should not be driving with such high bp.
At most it should be 120/80 and ideally 110/70 or thereabouts.
TubbaBlubba
Jul7-10, 11:49 AM
Have EC or someone drive you to the docs. 199/117 is still too high. One should not be driving with such high bp.
At most it should be 120/80 and ideally 110/70 or thereabouts.
It's hard to say how much is "too much", I've got 145/75 (on rather high medication), for instance. While the diastolic pressure is high, it's not really dangerous since the systolic is still low, which means it doesn't really wear too much on the heart (and it's expected to go down once I get off venlafaxine anyway). The mechanics are quite complicated.
It's hard to say how much is "too much", I've got 145/75 (on rather high medication), for instance. While the diastolic pressure is high, it's not really dangerous since the systolic is still low, which means it doesn't really wear too much on the heart (and it's expected to go down once I get off venlafaxine anyway). The mechanics are quite complicated.That's high for your age.
It was 205/109last night. 199/117 after waking up from a nap. I'm hoping it's down when I go to the doctor, last time it was much lower and they didn't want to let me leave the office. Which is the wrong thing to do. It just stressed me out more.
Evo, I do understand your feelings re the medical establishment and hospital stays, etc. I really do (trust me).
I hope you have a good visit with the MD today, but if they tell you to go to the Hx, do not pass go, do not collect $200, (and I can't really see them NOT saying that...) please take them up on it. The risk of stroke or organ failure in the near term, and heart disease in the long(er) term is just way too high for you at these levels.
Evo, I do understand your feelings re the medical establishment and hospital stays, etc. I really do (trust me).
I hope you have a good visit with the MD today, but if they tell you to go to the Hx, do not pass go, do not collect $200, (and I can't really see them NOT saying that...) please take them up on it. The risk of stroke or organ failure in the near term, and heart disease in the long(er) term is just way too high for you at these levels.My last stay at the hospital (and I paid extra to have a private room) was so bad, it made my BP skyrocket, too much noise and constant interruptions, so I couldn't sleep, an insane nurses aid, I reported her to the head nurse and as it turned out, that was her (the head nurse) last day there because she had tried to bring up this insane woman and the practices there to no avail. She gave me complaint forms and said she was only sharing what she knew because she already had another position elsewhere. I agreed not to name her specifically in my complaint. The nurses would hide out in my room in order to catch up on their record keeping (there were computer stations in every room). It was unbelievable.
Jimmy Snyder
Jul7-10, 12:24 PM
Evo's report was one of the positive ones.
TubbaBlubba
Jul7-10, 12:28 PM
That's high for your age.
Perhaps I should clarify; I eat 10mgs of enalapril (ACE inhibitor) and felodipin (calcium channel blocker) daily for my blood pressure; it's up in the 180ies without them. Medicated it used to be around 130/70 but has gone up, probably due to my usage of Venlafaxine (SNRI and SSRI), which I plan to replace (for blood pressure reasons) once I've adjusted my lithium dosage.
It's pretty absurd to have a blood pressure that high at the age of 18 - well, I was 16 when I started medicating it, - but my heart and kidneys are fine, so it's just some stupid genetic mix that can be medically treated, my father has high blood pressure as well but he didn't get it until his fourties.
Jimmy Snyder
Jul7-10, 12:46 PM
I just had a c___scopy. You know, where they take a camera (presumably with a flash) and stick it where the sun don't shine. A few quick snaps and they're done. They found a polyp, removed it, and sent it off to the FBI for investigation. I hope they waterboard the sucker. The doctor says that these are usually benign, but if it turns out otherwise then he just cured me of cancer. Apparently removing it solves the problem. I'll find out soon which it was. Anyway the clinic was a model of efficiency. They put something in my IV that made my eyelids very heavy. Just as I made my mind up to fight it, I was waking up. From the time I entered the door to when I exited was no more than two hours. Not enough time for that crazy nurse to cause any trouble.
My last stay ... was so bad, it made my BP skyrocket...
Uhmmm, given the readings you've been reporting, exactly where could it possibly skyrocket to? :eek:
I need a good report from you Evo so that my BP can go back down LOL.
TubbaBlubba
Jul7-10, 12:59 PM
Uhmmm, given the readings you've been reporting, exactly where could it possibly skyrocket to? :eek:
Well, my great grandmother died with a BP of 300/xxx due to (SPOILER!) acute cerebral hemorrhage.
I just had a c___scopy. You know, where they take a camera (presumably with a flash) and stick it where the sun don't shine. A few quick snaps and they're done. They found a polyp, removed it, and sent it off to the FBI for investigation. I hope they waterboard the sucker. The doctor says that these are usually benign, but if it turns out otherwise then he just cured me of cancer. Apparently removing it solves the problem. I'll find out soon which it was. Anyway the clinic was a model of efficiency. They put something in my IV that made my eyelids very heavy. Just as I made my mind up to fight it, I was waking up. From the time I entered the door to when I exited was no more than two hours. Not enough time for that crazy nurse to cause any trouble.Yes, if they get it in time, it is one of the cancers that is preventable. Hope the results turn out ok.
Proton Soup
Jul7-10, 03:08 PM
evo, have you talked to a doc yet about anti-anxiety meds ?
evo, have you talked to a doc yet about anti-anxiety meds ?
I've already got some. :biggrin:
One of the reasons my BP is elevated is the pain I'm in, perhaps one too many falls down flights of stairs?
Math Is Hard
Jul7-10, 04:48 PM
One of the reasons my BP is elevated is the pain I'm in, perhaps one too many falls down flights of stairs?
Maybe you should cut back on falling.
Proton Soup
Jul7-10, 05:05 PM
I've already got some. :biggrin:
One of the reasons my BP is elevated is the pain I'm in, perhaps one too many falls down flights of stairs?
ah, good to hear.
pain is a tough one. some types, like say from inflammation, can be alleviated with high dose fish oil to cut off prostaglandins at the pass, so to speak. probably not so much for stairalgia, tho.
Astronuc
Jul7-10, 05:12 PM
Maybe you should cut back on falling. I recommend she cut that out altogether. :biggrin:
Vanadium 50
Jul7-10, 05:54 PM
I recommend she cut that out altogether.
Cold turkey? That's tough love.
As promised, the finished shelves.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/508/shelves.jpg
Astronuc
Jul8-10, 05:07 PM
Now that's more like it. Nice job!
I think we have the same measuring bowl.
As promised, the finished shelves.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/508/shelves.jpg
I've seen those shelves and yea, they are heavy. Since it's setting on carpet, are you going to put some coasters under the legs to keep them from cutting through?
I hope you have been to the doctors appointment and you can get a handle on the BP now.
I've seen those shelves and yea, they are heavy. Since it's setting on carpet, are you going to put some coasters under the legs to keep them from cutting through?
I hope you have been to the doctors appointment and you can get a handle on the BP now.I wanted to put a heavy rubber down mat to cover the entire carpeted area in the closet. But coasters will be going down. The surrounding floor is tile, no idea why the closet is carpeted. :confused:
I went to the Dr and have my BP meds.
I went to the Dr and have my BP meds.
Yea. :smile: I wish you luck with the meds. I've been very worried like everyone else here.
Jimmy Snyder
Jul8-10, 09:08 PM
The results were just some benign lymphoid tissue, not actually a polyp.
Astronuc
Jul8-10, 09:16 PM
I wanted to put a heavy rubber down mat to cover the entire carpeted area in the closet. But coasters will be going down. The surrounding floor is tile, no idea why the closet is carpeted. :confused: Tiled floor and carpeted closet? :rolleyes:
I went to the Dr and have my BP meds. And?
Astronuc
Jul8-10, 09:17 PM
The results were just some benign lymphoid tissue, not actually a polyp. Congrats and best wishes for continued good health!
The results were just some benign lymphoid tissue, not actually a polyp.Very good!
The results were just some benign lymphoid tissue, not actually a polyp.
Yay!
hypatia
Jul10-10, 05:28 AM
Glad to hear everyone is doing better, lets all try and remain accident/illness free for a long time.
It's been almost three months and finally, today, I can see the floor and the couches. Now we need to hang curtains and pictures. And get a coffee table.
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Jimmy Snyder
Aug13-10, 06:43 PM
It's been almost three months and finally, today, I can see the floor and the couches. Now we need to hang curtains and pictures. And get a coffee table.
http://a.imageshack.us/img152/9500/004xq.jpg
That sofa is screaming take a nap on me.
That sofa is screaming take a nap on me.Oh yeah, both of those are soooo comfortable, especially the one along the wall. No one stays awake on that one.
Very nice Evo.
I could see a zoobyshoe being on your wall.
Math Is Hard
Aug13-10, 07:04 PM
Very nice Evo.
I could see a zoobyshoe being on your wall.
I hope you meant a "Zoobyshoe painting". Otherwise, it's a little scary.
... Otherwise, it's a little scary.
You'd have to ask Evo about that.
Very nice Evo.
I could see a zoobyshoe being on your wall.ooh, I could see a zooby over my couch too!! :biggrin:
Oh that's great, looks so comfy and cozy!
Astronuc
Aug13-10, 08:49 PM
It does look warm and cozy.
It's been almost three months and finally, today, I can see the floor and the couches. Now we need to hang curtains and pictures. And get a coffee table.
http://a.imageshack.us/img152/9500/004xq.jpg What is our lamp doing in the corner of your living room?!
It needs several piles and shelves of textbooks in mathematics, physics, materials, engineering, and history. :biggrin:
None of the furniture in the house is mine, mine is either gone or in storage. The lamp was given to Evo child and I love it. Evo Child goes for making comfort nests. She is converting my bedroom into a nest. My bed is piled so high with pillows and stuffed comforters, the fruit bat needs a step stool to get on the bed now.
The bed she gave me is like a cloud. When I go to bed at night, I sink in. Reminds me of being at my grandmother's place up in the Alps. She'd come at night and tell me and my sister to get into whichever position we wanted for the rest of the night and then dump a 500 pound down comforter on us. You could not move once that thing was on you, even though my sister and I would try together to raise it, so we could turn over under it, and I was 18 at the time. Her place was a stone hunting lodge that belonged to one of the early Louis kings of France and there was no heat up where our room was.
It's been almost three months and finally, today, I can see the floor and the couches. Now we need to hang curtains and pictures. And get a coffee table.
http://a.imageshack.us/img152/9500/004xq.jpg
Cozy :smile:
But if I understand correctly what I see it raises a question. Just carpet? I prefer to have something difficult to burn facing fireplace. Metal plate, or some ceramic tiles.
Wow, Marzena said she likes your fireplace more than our own.
Astronuc
Aug14-10, 06:48 AM
None of the furniture in the house is mine, mine is either gone or in storage. The lamp was given to Evo child and I love it. Evo Child goes for making comfort nests. She is converting my bedroom into a nest. My bed is piled so high with pillows and stuffed comforters, the fruit bat needs a step stool to get on the bed now.
The bed she gave me is like a cloud. When I go to bed at night, I sink in. Reminds me of being at my grandmother's place up in the Alps. She'd come at night and tell me and my sister to get into whichever position we wanted for the rest of the night and then dump a 500 pound down comforter on us. You could not move once that thing was on you, even though my sister and I would try together to raise it, so we could turn over under it, and I was 18 at the time. Her place was a stone hunting lodge that belonged to one of the early Louis kings of France and there was no heat up where our room was. Cool. Do you have pictures?
I might be moving again, back into my old place. Evo Child moved out and has an incredible new house, so I am all alone now. I don't even go into the other side of the apartment, the master bedroom, which was hers, faces the street and has too many windows, I use it as a sunroom for plants, her room does have the incredible master bath though, which is wasted since I use my bathroom attached to my bedroom. I still think of it as her bathroom.
I've gotten to love the layout for the living and dining room in this place, and they are much bigger than my old place and make more sense. The living room at my old place only had one solid wall which is the only place a couch can go, the opposite wall is a fireplace, and the wall on the side has a door to the backyard and a window, so there is no place to put a tv or stereo, it's crazy, which is why I never used the living room.
On the plus side, my kitchen at the old place is bigger and has more cabinets and the pation is larger and has the lovely stone arch around it.
If I get the price I want on my old unit, I'll save $300+ a month, which is the main reason I am thinking about moving, but I have to sign the papers in the next few days, and I only found out that my old unit is available yesterday. :cry: STRESS!!!
Of course both units are next door to each other, so it's still here on the RAVINE OF DOOM.
What do I do?
Hard to tell. Every single time I have moved, I have lost some items. One time I lost a hand-forged carbon steel Thiers Issard 6" chef's knife. That was a VERY sad day! Moving next door might not be so bad, but when my wife and I were first married, we moved from one rat-hole apartment to another so I could chase construction jobs.
Oh, and my BP meds were just changed, (referring to the BP posts earlier in this thread) seems the one I was on was found to cause cancer.
Oh, and my BP meds were just changed, (referring to the BP posts earlier in this thread) seems the one I was on was found to cause cancer.Please tell your doctor if you are planning surgery. Side effects may include death.
Please tell your doctor if you are planning surgery. Side effects may include death.According to a recent drug commercial death is now referred to as "adverse fatal events". I guess that is opposed to "non-adverse fatal events". :uhh:
According to a recent drug commercial death is now referred to as "adverse fatal events". I guess that is opposed to "non-adverse fatal events". :uhh:I can come up with a few people whose "fatal effects" I would not consider adverse.
I hate watching the drug commercials that run during the national news. If drugs with perhaps minimal benefits pose a risk of liver-damage or kidney failure, why are they even on the market? I've signed up with a new doctor and will see him next month for the first time. He's an osteopath, and my wife loves his approach. My last doctor was a quick-draw with the prescription pads, and I had to resist his tendency to prescribe drugs. Not a bad guy, but too reliant on drugs, IMO.
Evo Child moved out
Actually I was thinking about whether the new place is not too large for you now ever since Evo Child moved out (if I recall correctly, that happened quite some time ago?).
there is no place to put a tv
You have a TV set? I recall your TV was broken, I don't remember reading about a new one :wink:
I'll save $300+ a month
I would love to be able to do so :grumpy:
I can come up with a few people whose "fatal effects" I would not consider adverse.
I hate watching the drug commercials that run during the national news. If drugs with perhaps minimal benefits pose a risk of liver-damage or kidney failure, why are they even on the market? I've signed up with a new doctor and will see him next month for the first time. He's an osteopath, and my wife loves his approach. My last doctor was a quick-draw with the prescription pads, and I had to resist his tendency to prescribe drugs. Not a bad guy, but too reliant on drugs, IMO.I went to an osteopath when I was younger, it was my mother's choice, couldn't ever leave without the *necessary* bone alignment cracks.
I might be moving again, back into my old place....
What do I do?
Didn't your old place have a better place for outdoor veggies?
I went to an osteopath when I was younger, it was my mother's choice, couldn't ever leave without the *necessary* bone alignment cracks.My favorite doctor of all was an osteopath. I was quite accident-prone (OK, I engaged in really risky activities!) and, and whenever a family member or neighbor hauled me down there, he'd say "Alright, up on the table." Followed closely by "What did you do this time?" His older son was a trumpet-player like me, and his younger son was a nut about nature, as was I, so I spent a lot of time at their house. Years later, the younger son told me that his father held me up as an example of how NOT to behave!
OmCheeto
Aug20-11, 04:00 PM
According to a recent drug commercial death is now referred to as "adverse fatal events". I guess that is opposed to "non-adverse fatal events". :uhh:
hmmm....
Sometimes, when people ask me how I'm doing, I respond with; "I'm not dead. How are you?"
Perhaps in the future, I'll use that line; "I've had no recent adverse fatal events, so I think I'm doing great! And how badly is your day going?"
:tongue2:
Actually I was thinking about whether the new place is not too large for you now ever since Evo Child moved out (if I recall correctly, that happened quite some time ago?).Yes, she moved out, then a few months later moved back in, then in the middle of the move back in, decided to get her own place again.
You have a TV set? I recall your TV was broken, I don't remember reading about a new one :wink:Evo Child got one from someone that had an extra one, not new but free.
Didn't your old place have a better place for outdoor veggies?Yes, the bigger patio.
I am glad you moving back to your dream place! :smile:
I am glad you moving back to your dream place! :smile:
Thanks rootX, except the new place has grown on me. But my old place is cheaper and has a bigger kitchen, so I love it too. :cry:
I want both. And now the new place had sentimental value because Evo Child has a bedroom here. :cry:
micromass
Aug20-11, 09:52 PM
I'm sure your old place will grow back on you. Soon you won't even remember that you left it!!
I'm sure your old place will grow back on you. Soon you won't even remember that you left it!!The fruit bat and I just got back from my old place, the door was open. Yeah, I really do love my old place. And I'll have a fancy new digital refrigerator!
Ok, I can do this.
The fruit bat and I just got back from my old place, the door was open. Yeah, I really do love my old place. And I'll have a fancy new digital refrigerator!
Ok, I can do this.Get a surge-protector for that new refrigerator!! My wife bought a mini-fridge (U-Line) for a couple of hundred bucks earlier this year, and a power surge cleaned out the controller. It will keep things cold to 45 degrees or so, but it is worthless otherwise. Really pretty brushed-stainless mini-fridge that isn't worth crap.
Well, it might be worth crap, but that's about it's top value.
The fruit bat and I just got back from my old place, the door was open. Yeah, I really do love my old place. And I'll have a fancy new digital refrigerator!
Ok, I can do this.
You have our moral support :biggrin:
If not for the distance we could also drive to you to help. You know, we would sit around and wait for beer, pretending to be moving heavy pieces of furniture.
If not for the distance we could also drive to you to help. You know, we would sit around and wait for beer, pretending to be moving heavy pieces of furniture.Someone has to be in charge of the move, making sure things go where they belong. It's a hard job to sit there drinking beer and make sure it all gets done right. Thank you for your support!! :biggrin:
Here ya go Evo, Moving Out and In (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuuI9Dwmcg), from a young lady, who appears to video document just about everything she does...
From your posts, sounds like you have yo-yo'ed back and forth, hopefully this works for you, better for your "green thumb" too if I understood comments in this thread correctly.
Good Luck.
Rhody... :smile:
I have officially been approved for the move. :cry: It's set for the end of Sept. :cry:
:cry:
micromass
Aug24-11, 03:00 PM
I have officially been approved for the move. :cry: It's set for the end of Sept. :cry:
:cry:
Don't cry :frown: You'll get used to your new place in no time!! It's a new start!
Don't cry :frown: You'll get used to your new place in no time!! It's a new start!
Give your old Lard a hug. <sniff>
micromass
Aug24-11, 03:03 PM
Give your old Lard a hug. <sniff>
Will I get banned if I don't? :tongue:
* hugs the giant lard *
I have officially been approved for the move. :cry: It's set for the end of Sept. :cry:
Oh come on, now, that you decided, it is not time to cry - just think about things that will get better.
It is often said that Poles are pessimistic, while Americans always think positive. Don't ruin that in my eyes!
Will I get banned if I don't? :tongue:
* hugs the giant lard *Thanks. <sniff> sticks 10,000 GOOBF cards into micro's computer.
Will I get banned if I don't? :tongue:
* hugs the giant lard *You could get banned either way, MM. Evo is an Equal-Opportunity banner with poor aim.
You could get banned either way, MM. Evo is an Equal-Opportunity banner with poor aim.
So true. Micro does hold the record for number of times to be accidently banned.
I have officially been approved for the move. :cry: It's set for the end of Sept. :cry:
:cry:
I'm trying to understand here. Why the tears? Is it just a female thing? :biggrin:
My confusions is due to your first post in this thread while you were still living in your old apartment.
I don't want to, I love my place. It's my dream place.
I'm trying to understand here. Why the tears? Is it just a female thing? :biggrin:
My confusions is due to your first post in this thread while you were still living in your old apartment.I know, now I am spoiled by the bigger place. :cry:
I know, now I am spoiled by the bigger place. :cry:How much *space* do you need? Your dog is no bigger than a typical dust-bunny! Unless you have grown a lot in the last year or so, you don't need *space* either.
How much *space* do you need? Your dog is no bigger than a typical dust-bunny! Unless you have grown a lot in the last year or so, you don't need *space* either.I never had enough storage space at the old apartment, and I couldn't use the living room because of the bizarre lack of wall space, you couldn't put a couch in a non-wall space because then you'd be trapped, and the cable for tv was in the corner between the fireplace and a window, so that made no sense. I basically lived in the bedroom. I know once I get back there, I'll be ok, but I'm going to miss the layout and space I have now.
I never had enough storage space at the old apartment, and I couldn't use the living room because of the bizarre lack of wall space, you couldn't put a couch in a non-wall space because then you'd be trapped, and the cable for tv was in the corner between the fireplace and a window, so that made no sense. I basically lived in the bedroom. I know once I get back there, I'll be ok, but I'm going to miss the layout and space I have now.
I definitely understand not having enough space. It's been a problem for me ever since I bought this place over 30 years ago. The way I look at it though is I don't have to worry about being a hoarder. Keep that in mind. I wouldn't want to see you on a television program someday. :wink:
I definitely understand not having enough space. It's been a problem for me ever since I bought this place over 30 years ago. The way I look at it though is I don't have to worry about being a hoarder. Keep that in mind. I wouldn't want to see you on a television program someday. :wink:
No worry about hoarding, I'm down to bare bones. The black thing is my old bedroom tv with an Eddie Bauer sleeping bag around it for protection.
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Astronuc
Aug24-11, 07:59 PM
No worry about hoarding, I'm down to bare bones. The black thing is my old bedroom tv with an Eddie Bauer sleeping bag around it for protection.
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http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7567/012fqs.jpg That looks very nice, very warm, and very comfy.
However, it's missing stacks of math, physics, engineering and history books. :frown:
Nice dolly. :smile:
micromass
Aug24-11, 08:00 PM
And it's missing a computer with PF on...
Astronuc
Aug24-11, 08:02 PM
And it's missing a computer with PF on... That's in the super-secret room.
That looks very nice, very warm, and very comfy.
However, it's missing stacks of math, physics, engineering and history books. :frown:
Nice dolly. :smile:Thanks. I don't even know where all of my books are. Yeah, the dolly will come in handy with the move.
Math Is Hard
Aug24-11, 09:59 PM
Nice dolly. :smile:
I have the exact same one at work! :approve:
I have the exact same one at work! :approve:We can have a race!
We can have a race!My money is on MIH. Evo will fall and injure herself before getting out of the gate.
Math Is Hard
Aug24-11, 11:30 PM
We can have a race!
A fabulous idea! Who or what will we be carting?
A fabulous idea! Who or what will we be carting?Chances are, you'd be carting Evo to the ER to get her patched up. Be sure to bring straps with ratchets to secure her to the dolly.
A fabulous idea! Who or what will we be carting?How about Astro & zooby?
Chances are, you'd be carting Evo to the ER to get her patched up. Be sure to bring straps with ratchets to secure her to the dolly.Good idea!
Astronuc
Aug25-11, 02:42 PM
How about Astro & zooby?
Good idea! :bugeye: :uhh:
Better call "dibs" on MIH, Astro. It will improve your chances of surviving the race.
Better call "dibs" on MIH, Astro. It will improve your chances of surviving the race.
Good idea. Zoobies have pretty robust bone structures; he'll be fine.
I've started moving. :frown:
Astronuc
Sep29-11, 05:03 PM
I've started moving. :frown: Hopefully, the task will be complete before winter sets in. Chin up.
I've started moving. :frown:
It should go easier now that you've gotten rid of your 8 legged houseguest. :wink:
Good luck!
You should dress like football players do, that will reduce risk of injuries.
I can barely move. Something is wrong with my left heel.
Proton Soup
Sep29-11, 06:00 PM
i'd look for a knot in the calf or the muscles of the side and bottom of the foot.
I can barely move. Something is wrong with my left heel.I have plantar fascitis in my right foot. It feels like a stabbing pain in the heel when it's bad. I have some New Balance toning shoes with good internal support and a "rocker" sole that reduces heel-strike, and I wear those whenever I take Duke out for a long walk. They have helped a lot, and even if I have to spend a lot of time on my feet I don't get the pain that I used to. PF is a pain :devil: and it can crop up in people who have suddenly elevated their level of activity or recently gained weight. I'm pretty sure it is more prevalent in men, but it could be a possibility for you.
Good luck! I wish that I lived in driving distance and could help with the move.
micromass
Sep29-11, 06:46 PM
I've started moving. :frown:
You'll be settled in before you know it :smile:
You'll be settled in before you know it :smile:And how much stuff will be hopelessly lost after the move? My wife and I lived in Spartan accommodations when we were in the first few years of our marriage, and we traveled as light as possible when we moved so I could chase construction jobs. Still, somehow, a lovely forged high-carbon steel 6" Thiers-Issard chef's knife came up missing at some point. That was my favorite kitchen knife of all time, and I had a hard time pulling $25 out of my pocket in the mid-70's to pay for that rascal, but it was well worth it. We were saving as much out of each of our checks as we could every week so that some day we would have enough money to make a down payment on our own place, but I couldn't resist that knife. It was on sale in a newly-opened cooking store for about 1/3 off and I had to have it. I should buy a replacement, but we cut and chop so many acidic vegetables these days that I opted for a SS model. Still, that carbon-steel forged blade would "sing" when you rubbed your thumb across the edge and it held an edge 'way better than SS.
There are papers that still haven't surfaced after our move here 6 years ago - some that can't be replicated. There are also small specialty tools, etc that have never emerged from all the packing boxes.
I can barely move. Something is wrong with my left heel.
I have plantar fascitis in my right foot. It feels like a stabbing pain in the heel when it's bad. I have some New Balance toning shoes with good internal support and a "rocker" sole that reduces heel-strike, and I wear those whenever I take Duke out for a long walk. They have helped a lot, and even if I have to spend a lot of time on my feet I don't get the pain that I used to. PF is a pain :devil: and it can crop up in people who have suddenly elevated their level of activity or recently gained weight. I'm pretty sure it is more prevalent in men, but it could be a possibility for you.
Good luck! I wish that I lived in driving distance and could help with the move.
Evo, FYI Turbo,
Be careful for God's sake moving... Rhody sends moving angels o:) Evo's and MIH's o:) way, I had PF as well both heels one after the other 5 years apart. Podiatrist, numbed inside heel with liquid nitrogen, then, a liberal shot of cortisone (felt nothing the heel was fooled by the cold from the liquid nitrogen) and this took care of it, sore for about three days, then pain free. I am careful not to stress ankles without warm up.
I hope you have success with the ghost seeds. Some peppers are heading your way tomorrow. It would be cool to have a trimmed ghost monster of your very own to brag about wouldn't it ?
Rhody... o:)
DoggerDan
Sep29-11, 11:00 PM
I have plantar fascitis in my right foot. It feels like a stabbing pain in the heel when it's bad. I have some New Balance toning shoes with good internal support and a "rocker" sole that reduces heel-strike, and I wear those whenever I take Duke out for a long walk. They have helped a lot, and even if I have to spend a lot of time on my feet I don't get the pain that I used to. PF is a pain :devil: and it can crop up in people who have suddenly elevated their level of activity or recently gained weight. I'm pretty sure it is more prevalent in men, but it could be a possibility for you.
It's more than a possibility. It's a reality. And yes, it came with weight gain. It doesn't necessarily go away with weight gain, however.
One of my docs suggested I follow a diet for those with gout, and I found instant relief, but only about 40%. "The rest," he said, "comes from loosing the weight and getting back into shape."
I didn't loose the weight, but when I began cycling, my PF disappeared. Don't know if it's related or not. Some folks might find cracking their own walnuts eases the symptoms. Who knows?
What I did makes sense to me. As it's basic fitness, not some pie in the sky cure, you might try it. Can it hurt? Don't think so.
Good luck! I wish that I lived in driving distance and could help with the move.[/QUOTE]
I can barely move. Something is wrong with my left heel.
In different circumstances I would offer a kiss to sooth your pain, but with my marital status and being 5000 miles away I can only comfort you by saying - poor Evo :frown:
I massaged my heel last night pretty well, hoping that the pain would end the pain and I would wake up painless.
Nope.
Good lord. I have to dismantle my computer & tv set up, there are 50 kagillion cords.
Jimmy Snyder
Sep30-11, 11:32 AM
I can barely move. Something is wrong with my left heel.You're moving and you can barely move. Not a good combination.
I can barely move. Something is wrong with my left heel.
You're moving and you can barely move. Not a good combination.
Normally I chuckle at Jimmy's zingers, not this time. Do you have the help you need ?
Rhody... concerned...
Jimmy Snyder
Sep30-11, 11:53 AM
I'm sorry if I seem callous.
I'm sorry if I seem callous.Hey, is that a reference to my heels?
I wonder if I broke a bone when I had that serious fall last month? It does look a bit swollen. It's the back of my heel, just below the ankle.
micromass
Sep30-11, 12:11 PM
I massaged my heel last night pretty well, hoping that the pain would end the pain and I would wake up painless.
Nope.
*Sends healing thoughts to Evo's heel*
*Sends healing thoughts to Evo's heel*
{{{hugs}}}}
The movers will be here this afternoon, they're moving the furniture and some heavy boxes.
micromass
Sep30-11, 12:18 PM
Nice then you can settle in tonight already in a cosy place :smile:
Do check out a doctor for that heel :shy:
Evo,
Turbo is right see a doctor, you could have a bad bruise, chipped the bone or damaged the tendon(s) (i.e. sprain). If it is a chip you should be able to move the chip, however.
Rhody...
If it is a chip you should be able to move the chip, however.
You just brought tears to my eyes. :grumpy:
You just brought tears to my eyes. :grumpy:
Ha, that makes me almost as bad as Jimmy, now, doesn't it ? My differential diagnosis is worth well, the price of the electrons it was typed on, not much. Heal quickly Evo... you know we care even if we poke you now and then.
Rhody... :blushing:
I am connected at the new place. The painter apprently thought it would be clever to fill the cable outlet with paint. I'm amazed that it's working after I scraped the paint out.
Movers are not here yet.
Jimmy Snyder
Sep30-11, 04:54 PM
I am connected at the new place.
Whereever you go, there you are. Are you in Kansas anymore?
Whereever you go, there you are. Are you in Kansas anymore?Yeah, I just moved next door. Still waiting for the movers.
Yeah, I just moved next door. Still waiting for the movers.
Do you have to be out of your old apartment today? Hopefully you'll have a place to sleep tonight. :uhh:
Proton Soup
Sep30-11, 10:35 PM
Evo,
Turbo is right see a doctor, you could have a bad bruise, chipped the bone or damaged the tendon(s) (i.e. sprain). If it is a chip you should be able to move the chip, however.
Rhody...
ugh. yeah, the bad news is that some achilles injuries can be very bad. the good news is that a lot of mild tendon inflammation is now being treated with a simple eccentric exercise regimen. but in the meantime, an epsom salt foot bath might reduce a bit of the inflammation.
Do you have to be out of your old apartment today? Hopefully you'll have a place to sleep tonight. :uhh:No, I have few days. Furniture is moved and I'm in excrutiating pain.
ugh. yeah, the bad news is that some achilles injuries can be very bad. the good news is that a lot of mild tendon inflammation is now being treated with a simple eccentric exercise regimen. but in the meantime, an epsom salt foot bath might reduce a bit of the inflammation.This is actually something that has been going on for at least a year, but this is the worst prolonged occurance. No one knows what the cause is. There are many related problems, I'm pretty sure it is neurological.
Thanks for caring. My mother used to use epsome salt foot baths for sore feet all of the time, I wish I had some.
Right now I can barely move.
Loren Booda
Oct1-11, 02:44 AM
I wish I could give you some medical advice, Evo, but that's the domain of an orthopedic appointment. I encourage you to keep to the computer this weekend -- no "feats" of strength. The Emergency Room is always there if you do need it (or if you have generous insurance).
The "happy thoughts" aimed at my heel seem to be helping. I'd now like to ask that happy thoughts be sent to my hips and tummy.
Evo Child was going to come over and help but is going to a party instead. I can't bend forward or lift things. :frown:
I moving things by packing a tiny cooler on wheels and rolling it back and forth. At this rate it will be december before I get everything moved. :cry:
Send old Evo happy thoughts, please!
Go crash your daughter's party, you might feel a lot younger after :biggrin:
micromass
Oct1-11, 04:06 PM
The "happy thoughts" aimed at my heel seem to be helping. I'd now like to ask that happy thoughts be sent to my hips and tummy.
Evo Child was going to come over and help but is going to a party instead. I can't bend forward or lift things. :frown:
I moving things by packing a tiny cooler on wheels and rolling it back and forth. At this rate it will be december before I get everything moved. :cry:
Send old Evo happy thoughts, please!
:frown:
*Sends a massive amount of happy thoughts*
OmCheeto
Oct1-11, 04:58 PM
Yeah, I just moved next door. Still waiting for the movers.
Next door?
Next time, just sneak out during the night, and switch the numbers on the apartments. They'll never know the difference.
:tongue2:
Next door?
Next time, just sneak out during the night, and switch the numbers on the apartments. They'll never know the difference.
:tongue2:Oooh! Sneaky.
I've got to buy a nice gift for the couple upstairs at my new place. Yesterday she brought me a hot cup of flavored coffe during the move. Then after the movers left, she came over with a bottle of wine so I could have some and unwind. The wine is great. She and her husband are nature lovers like me and we both support the wildlife in the ravine. :tongue2:
She's older than I am and she also fell recently and has trouble moving, so we can commiserate. I'm back next door to the nice young guy. The new old place feels like I never left. I'd forgotten how roomy it was.
Send old Evo happy thoughts, please!
Largest box I could find:
http://www.teacratepackaging.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/300x290/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/a/large_box_3.jpg
No empty space left inside, filled up with THE BEST thoughts I could find.
Astronuc
Oct1-11, 06:18 PM
I've got to buy a nice gift for the couple upstairs at my new place. Yesterday she brought me a hot cup of flavored coffe during the move. Then after the movers left, she came over with a bottle of wine so I could have some and unwind. The wine is great. She and her husband are nature lovers like me and we both support the wildlife in the ravine. :tongue2:
She's older than I am and she also fell recently and has trouble moving, so we can commiserate. I'm back next door to the nice young guy. The new old place feels like I never left. I'd forgotten how roomy it was. Sounds like the move worked out well. :approve: :cool:
micromass
Oct1-11, 06:21 PM
I've got to buy a nice gift for the couple upstairs at my new place. Yesterday she brought me a hot cup of flavored coffe during the move. Then after the movers left, she came over with a bottle of wine so I could have some and unwind. The wine is great. She and her husband are nature lovers like me and we both support the wildlife in the ravine. :tongue2:
She's older than I am and she also fell recently and has trouble moving, so we can commiserate. I'm back next door to the nice young guy. The new old place feels like I never left. I'd forgotten how roomy it was.
So basically, instead of moving, you got drunk with the neighbours... :biggrin:
Loren Booda
Oct1-11, 08:01 PM
I've got to buy a nice gift for the couple upstairs at my new place. Yesterday she brought me a hot cup of flavored coffe during the move. Then after the movers left, she came over with a bottle of wine so I could have some and unwind. The wine is great. She and her husband are nature lovers like me and we both support the wildlife in the ravine. :tongue2:
She's older than I am and she also fell recently and has trouble moving, so we can commiserate. I'm back next door to the nice young guy. The new old place feels like I never left. I'd forgotten how roomy it was.
"Good senses make good neighbors."
Proton Soup
Oct1-11, 11:02 PM
you should really get a power loader (http://www.robotoys.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=1306&p_catid=41)
Largest box I could find:
http://www.teacratepackaging.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/300x290/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/a/large_box_3.jpg
No empty space left inside, filled up with THE BEST thoughts I could find.aww, thanks Borek!
Sounds like the move worked out well. :approve: :cool:
So basically, instead of moving, you got drunk with the neighbours... :biggrin:Actually, she was nice enough to just bring me the bottle and leave it all to me.
"Good senses make good neighbors."They're are good.
you should really get a power loader (http://www.robotoys.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=1306&p_catid=41)EXACTLY what I need!
I'm still moving. :cry: Almost done. I can't lean forward, or bend down, or pick things up, or walk. If it wasn't for that tiny cooler on wheels, I wouldn't be able to do anything. My neightbor has helped some, finally last night and this morning Evo Child stopped by and moved stuff for me, but she's had a stomach virus the last couple of days so wasn't able to come over.
:frown:
The old grey mare she ain't what she used to be...
micromass
Oct6-11, 07:17 PM
I'm still moving. :cry: Almost done. I can't lean forward, or bend down, or pick things up, or walk. If it wasn't for that tiny cooler on wheels, I wouldn't be able to do anything. My neightbor has helped some, finally last night and this morning Evo Child stopped by and moved stuff for me, but she's had a stomach virus the last couple of days so wasn't able to come over.
:frown:
The old grey mare she ain't what she used to be...
:cry:
You're almost done. Just keep on going and you can finally relax. My healing thoughts are being send straight to you.
:frown:
Loren Booda
Oct6-11, 10:49 PM
Physics Forums proves to be an exercise among real concerns, virtual interactions, and their convergence.
All I can offer is good thoughts, good words and a postcard - although the PC would be wasted, as you said you don't have a key to your own mailbox. So I will pass on the postcard and concentrate on telepathy. TRANSMITTING....
All I can offer is good thoughts, good words and a postcard - although the PC would be wasted, as you said you don't have a key to your own mailbox. So I will pass on the postcard and concentrate on telepathy. TRANSMITTING....Awww, thanks!
Oh my Evo, you're moving again? Please take it easy, although you're probably an expert by now on these things. Have you planned something nice for yourself when you're done? Watch your favorite tv series or read a good book? Hang in there!
Do no worry Evo! I will send you the healing power of the dolphins! *Concentrates on Evo's well being*
Do no worry Evo! I will send you the healing power of the dolphins! *Concentrates on Evo's well being*Thank you Greg!
Are you a Dolphin Ambassador?
I never thought I could become a true Dolphin Ambassador, but then I found out that you don't actually have to ever get near a dolphin or water in order to channel the psychic healing powers of dolphins. You just need to send money. I'm saving up.
Unfortunately, people that do not come to chat regularly are not enlightened to Dolphin Healing.
In reality? Nope :) but I really do wish you well.
In reality? Nope :) but I really do wish you well.:cry: You could have lied to me. Sometimes a little white lie is good.
:cry: You could have lied to me. Sometimes a little white lie is good.
Ah, but then i'd have to charge a fee if I were an official dolphin ambassador. As an unofficial, I can do exactly the same but free of charge ;)
And I made friends with some wild dolphins off the coast of South Africa on a surfing tour. They have much better healing power.
Ah, but then i'd have to charge a fee if I were an official dolphin ambassador. As an unofficial, I can do exactly the same but free of charge ;)
And I made friends with some wild dolphins off the coast of South Africa on a surfing tour. They have much better healing power.I knew I heard them calling to me. :!!)
micromass
Oct7-11, 07:07 PM
Do no worry Evo! I will send you the healing power of the dolphins! *Concentrates on Evo's well being*
They're MY dolphins. They're MINE!! Get away or I'll attack you with my army of killer whales. (Yes, I just got my PhD in Killer whale general).
They're MY dolphins. They're MINE!! Get away or I'll attack you with my army of killer whales. (Yes, I just got my PhD in Killer whale general).I am honored Dolphin Ambassador. Please send me your Dolphin's healing powers.
(non chat people will think we're nuts)
:tongue2:
I am honored Dolphin Ambassador. Please send me your Dolphin's healing powers.
(non chat people will think we're nuts)
:tongue2:
Yep, I am a chat buddy, and dare I say, you are dabbling off the deep end... with Flipper that is.
Rhody... :blushing: :devil:
micromass
Oct7-11, 09:29 PM
(non chat people will think we're nuts)
Nuts is the new cool :cool:
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