Heat equation in a sphere surface

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the heat equation on the surface of a sphere, focusing on the implications of an initial temperature distribution that varies with azimuth and zenith angles. Participants explore the nature of boundary conditions, particularly in the context of periodicity and the long-term behavior of temperature distribution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the solution to the heat equation will converge to a uniform temperature over time, despite the initial non-uniform profile.
  • Another participant proposes a method for solving the heat equation using spherical harmonics, suggesting that the initial temperature can be expressed as an infinite sum of these functions.
  • The solution for each spherical function is presented, leading to a general solution that incorporates the initial conditions through a series representation.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of apparent boundary conditions, with one participant emphasizing the physical implications of this absence.
  • Another participant asserts that the initial temperature distribution is the only necessary boundary condition, while questioning the classification of angular periodicity as a boundary condition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of boundary conditions and the implications of periodicity. While there is some agreement on the role of the initial temperature distribution, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the classification of angular periodicity and its effects on the solution over time.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the dependence of the solution on the definitions of boundary conditions and the implications of periodicity in spherical coordinates. The discussion also highlights uncertainty regarding the specific properties of the spherical Laplace operator.

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I was wondering what happens if I want to solve the heat equation in a sphere surface, neglecting its thickness. I have one initial condition for T(t=0), in particular this initial profile can depend on azimuth and zenith angles, it is not uniform. Perhaps I have saying something stupid but I think for large times the temperature would be uniform in all over the surface. The question is I have not any boundary condition, except those of angular periodicity. Or do you think the solution is precisely the initial profile?.
 
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I've figured out a way of solving it, I'm not sure if it works. Anyway here I go:

The initial temperature distribution can be written as an infinite sum of spherical functions,
[tex]T(\theta, \phi, t=0) = \sum_{l=0}^\infty \sum_{m=-l}^{+l}a_{l,m} Y_{l,m}(\theta, \phi)[/tex]
The heat equation for one of those spherical functions can be solved easily because they have the property [tex]\Delta_{S^2} Y_{l,m}(\theta,\phi)=l(l+1)Y_{l,m}(\theta,\phi)[/tex] with the spherical Laplace operator [tex]\Delta_{S^2}[/tex] (it might be l(l-1) instead of l(l+1), I'm not sure anymore).
The solution to this particular initial condition is (the constants set equal to 1) [tex]T(\theta,\phi,t)=Y_{l,m}(\theta,\phi)e^{-l(l+1)t}[/tex].

Since the heat equation is linear one can solve it separately for each part of the infinite sum, and therefore the solution with general initial conditions is
[tex]T(\theta, \phi, t) = \sum_{l=0}^\infty e^{-l(l+1)t} \sum_{m=-l}^{+l}a_{l,m} Y_{l,m}(\theta, \phi)[/tex].

So the problem is practically solved if you have found the series representation of the initial condition.
Perhaps I have saying something stupid but I think for large times the temperature would be uniform in all over the surface.
Yes, that's true.
 
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:eek: Bufff!

I was hoping such an answer given by a mathmatician. I just was referring to the physical problem of the non-existence of apparent boundary conditions. Your answer is very technical, although is always welcomed of course. :biggrin:
 
The only necessary boundary condition is indeed the initial temperature distribution. With that and the condition that no heat leaves or "enters" the thin surface the whole development in time is determined.

I'm not sure if the angular periodicity can be called a boundary condition...its more something that comes up when you use spherical coordinates. I guess when the initial condition is periodic then the solution to the heat equation is automatically periodic for all times. I'm sure one can derive this somehow directly from the equation, though I don't know how.
 

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