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Rufus Anton
Jul27-04, 12:06 AM
<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>I came across this article on cnn.com\n\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/07/21/hawking.blackholes.ap/index.html\n\nThey make it sound as though Hawking claims to have resolved the black\nhole information paradox. Now, it wouldn\'t be the first time Hawking\nmakes a bold claim but at any rate this is interesting. Couldn\'t find\nany preprints etc.\n\nWho knows more?\n\n[Moderator\'s note: Urs Schreiber has described, on SPS, a lecture by \'t\nHooft who was upset about the new publicity of Hawking. I\'ve heard somewhere\nthat a paper should appear soon, abou a month from the original articles.\nLM]\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">&nbsp;&nbsp;View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>I came across this article on cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/07/21/hawking.blackholes.ap/index.html

They make it sound as though Hawking claims to have resolved the black
hole information paradox. Now, it wouldn't be the first time Hawking
makes a bold claim but at any rate this is interesting. Couldn't find
any preprints etc.

Who knows more?

[Moderator's note: Urs Schreiber has described, on SPS, a lecture by 't
Hooft who was upset about the new publicity of Hawking. I've heard somewhere
that a paper should appear soon, abou a month from the original articles.
LM]
Urs Schreiber
Jul27-04, 02:33 AM
<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>"Rufus Anton" &lt;rufusanton@gmx.de&gt; schrieb im Newsbeitrag\nnews:a1c70df8.0407261206.78f5a145-100000@posting.google.com...\n&gt; I came across this article on cnn.com\n&gt;\n&gt; http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/07/21/hawking.blackholes.ap/index.html\n&gt;\n&gt; They make it sound as though Hawking claims to have resolved the black\n&gt; hole information paradox. Now, it wouldn\'t be the first time Hawking\n&gt; makes a bold claim but at any rate this is interesting. Couldn\'t find\n&gt; any preprints etc.\n\nThere is no paper yet, which would give any details of what Hawking has in\nmind. Maybe there is not much more beyond what is said in the talk.\n\nHawking mentions AdS/CFT a lot, which sometimes makes it sound as if he\nsimply acknowledges that this solves the problem for superstrings on\nasymptotically AdS space. But maybe his claim is stronger. Nobody really\nseems to know. The talk was very vague.\n\nFor some discussion see these spr threads\n\nhttp://groups.google.de/groups?selm=40ffa192%241%40news.sentex.net\nhttp://groups.google.de/groups?selm=ce3h0n%24jj1%241%40glue.ucr.edu\n\nor these weblog entries\n\nhttp://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/000404.html#c001408\nhttp://preposterousuniverse.blogspot.com/2004/07/hawking-speaks.html\nhttp://golem.ph.utexas.edu/string/archives/000403.html .\n\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">&nbsp;&nbsp;View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>"Rufus Anton" <rufusanton@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> I came across this article on cnn.com
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/07/21/hawking.blackholes.ap/index.html
>
> They make it sound as though Hawking claims to have resolved the black
> hole information paradox. Now, it wouldn't be the first time Hawking
> makes a bold claim but at any rate this is interesting. Couldn't find
> any preprints etc.

There is no paper yet, which would give any details of what Hawking has in
mind. Maybe there is not much more beyond what is said in the talk.

Hawking mentions AdS/CFT a lot, which sometimes makes it sound as if he
simply acknowledges that this solves the problem for superstrings on
asymptotically AdS space. But maybe his claim is stronger. Nobody really
seems to know. The talk was very vague.

For some discussion see these spr threads

http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=40ffa192%241%40news.sentex.net
http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=ce3h0n%24jj1%241%40glue.ucr.edu

or these weblog entries

http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/000404.html#c001408
http://preposterousuniverse.blogspot.com/2004/07/hawking-speaks.html
http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/string/archives/000403.html .