Timecube!

[Adam]

http://www.timecube.com/

There's no need to put it in the debunking forum. No point. I put it here because it's good for a laugh. Enjoy the read. :)

[amwbonfire]

Oh, God, that's hilarious! :rofl: :rofl:

How many times did he/she say "Dumbass stupid students" and "evil students"? :rofl:


I think they have a few problems... :yuck: :uhh: :bugeye:

[Adam]

The guy was invited to a university some time ago, and delivered his theory to some students. Unfortunately the "educated stupid" students pointed out all the holes in it, and he was upset.

[Adam]

An interview with Gene Ray: http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1084027

[jimmy p]

Hmmm I wonder if anyone has emailed him to say that cubes dont have 4 corners...

[Adam]

Jimmy, you're not supposed to point out the obvious stuff. It's against the crackpot rules.

[Moonbear]

LOL! Amidst all that ranting about his four-cornered cube, he did state that a psychiatrist had diagnosed him as schizophrenic as another example of the educated stupid. I take it he has refused to take his medication.

[Gokul43201]

Nature's Time is Cubic and perpetual.
Linear Time is wrong and suicidal.

How can you not like that ? :wink: :biggrin:

Why look for a correct theory, when you can have a snazzy one ?? :rofl:

[jcsd]

YOU are the lowest form.
YOU can't procreate alone.
YOU destroyed the village.
YOU destroyed the family.
YOU destroyed childhood.
YOU destroyed naturalism.
YOU don't know the Truth.
YOU pitiful mindless fools,
YOU are educated stupid.
YOU worship cubeless word.
YOU are your own poison.
YOU create your own hell.
YOU must seek Time Cube.

Defintely one of the best sites on the web. it's been around for several years yet it constantly changes as more four-cornered cubic wisdom is added.

[jcsd]

Hmmm I wonder if anyone has emailed him to say that cubes dont have 4 corners...

..........duh! You're stupid and evil. :rolleyes:

[chroot]

How to be a crackpot:

1) Pick a piece of reputable science that seems beautiful to you, preferably one at a high-school or earlier level (since, after all, you didn't take any collegiate science courses). Bonus points are assigned for choosing a piece that has been proven wrong and abandoned by modern science. The Bohr "solar-system" model of the atom, for example, will do nicely.

2) Misunderstand some fundamental point of your pet scientific principle.

3) Read about your pet scientific principle in a variety of $5.95 paperbacks sold at the front counter of the newsstands in malls.

4) Misunderstand even the qualitative descriptions and word-bound "math" provided therein.

5) Use that one piece of trivial scientific theory to explain everything in the observable universe. Yes, the beginning of time, the size of the Universe, black holes, and all the rest. Ascribe some silly properties to things that don't actually have those properties; for example, talk about the "speed" of electrons, and use the speed to explain the beginning of time. Don't be greedy and try to involve any other bits of real science; your theory has to have a definite focal point. What better focal point is there for an all-encompassing theory of the Universe than that piece of beautiful outdated science you learned in ninth grade?

6) Forego all use of math, since math is hard (you abandoned real science for the same reason, remember?). Besides, you've already convinced yourself that no one would ever order a Universe so complex that you'd actually need something as hard as math to describe it. If you do attempt to use math, make sure it's entirely unrelated to your thesis. Make use of the prettiest symbols as often as possible -- if say, you like the looks of the symbol for an integral over a closed region, just make all of your integrals over a closed region. Since you're making up dimensions, quantities, and symbols anyway, you can do what you like. Just think of the symbols as window dressing.

7) Make up at least a dozen new words. Even better, reuse the same words scientists use, but give them new, entirely different, meanings. Be careful not to give them precise definitions, though; leave a little wiggle room. Using your new lexicon, you can escape the barrage of criticism you'll receive later by revealing "your" definitions piecemeal. This bait-and-switch tactic soon wears out any would-be critics; when they give up on you, pat yourself on the back for having created an impregnable fortress of a theory.

8) Write at least one sentence that uses all of your new words at the same time. Make liberal use of nested prepositional phrases and passive voice. Since you don't actually understand science, you read a science book and see nothing but meaningless jumbles of words grouped into complicated sentence structures; it makes sense that you should emulate this as best you can. This "topic sentence" also becomes a great tool for weeding out your crackpot fellows from the background noise of reputable scientists. Anyone who reads the sentence "The force of magnetism is the result of a torque generated by the energy vortex Shadows associate with electromagnet energy, which causes a 'tilting' of the W axis of the fourth spatial dimensions." and actually claims to "get it" is immediately identified as a colleague.

9) Do your best to ignore every shred of the contrary evidence collected by hundreds of thousands of independent scientists, in millions of experiments, over the span of hundreds of years. There are a variety of ways in which you can dodge the evidence:

- You can simply ignore it.
- You can explain that all of those scientists, helplessly unarmed by having not yet experienced the epiphany embodied in your theory, simply did the wrong experiments, or intepreted the experimental results incorrectly.
- You can refer to the International Scientific Conspiracy, who has encased all of the real scientists (who would immediately give you the Nobel prize for your discovery) in concrete, leaving only the riff-raff underachievers to do such poor experiments.
- You can make use of the paranoid idea that the only experiments which are conclusive are those which involve the human senses directly. If you can't feel it heating up with your hand, or see it glowing with your eye, then you haven't done a real experiment. Why should anyone, especially you, believe anything that a machine says? After all, the International Scientific Conspiracy certainly has a few well-stocked machine shops.

10) Whenever someone criticizes you, be sure to try to make him feel guilty for being so closed-minded that the only thing he'll accept is cold, hard reality. Tell him that scientists like Einstein invented new branches of physics only by being as open-minded as you are; ignore the fact that the assertion is not true (or invoke the International Scientific Conspiracy).

11) Submit your paper to reputable scientific authorities, like PRL and Nature. When no one bothers to even respond with a rejection letter, come to one of two possible conclusions: either that modern science has no rebuttal to your theory, you have shattered their collective scientific ego with your brilliance, and they have chosen not to respond because they are too proud to admit defeat; or that the International Scientific Conspiracy has immediately destroyed your paper because you got too close to the Truth. Either way, your theory is actually strengthened by the silent dismissal, and that's all that really matters anyway. Now you can tell anyone who cares to listen that modern science cannot rebut your theory, so it must be right. You can go a step further, become proactive, and actually solicit rebuttals directly from individuals in the reputable scientific community. When none of these scientists is willing to waste his time trying to teach you tenth-grade physics, you can proudly announce that science cannot disprove your theory.

12) Misunderstand the essence of the scientific method. Forget the fact that theories must provide falsifiable or directly verifiable predictions to be taken seriously. Since your theory is a crackpot theory, it is incapable of providing directly verifiable predictions. You were careful to avoid making your definitions precise, weren't you? The same wiggle room that allows your theory to explain just about any experimental result is also responsible for preventing your theory from making any concrete predictions of anything. It doesn't matter what number pops out of the particle physicist's machine; your theory doesn't even use math, so any number you'd like can be explained by it. Your theory is immune to the scientific method, and that makes it better. Your theory cannot be proven wrong, so it must be right.

13) Make up a name for your theory. Reputable scientific theories have wacky-sounding names like "Quantum Electrodynamics" and "Special Relativity," so yours should, too. Use latin whenever possible, since latin sounds scientific; nevermind that you don't understand how to conjugate latin verbs. "Genesis Continuous," "Shadows," and "Time Cube" are all excellent names. Bonus points are assigned for crackpots who manage to bastardize the names of reputable theories. For example, "God Almighty's Grand Unified Theory" is at least ten times as good as "Shadows," because it provokes fear and awe while simultaneously including a catch-phrase that has recently attracted a great deal of reputable attention.

14) Found your very own organization dedicated to the research of your new theory of everything. It doesn't matter if some of your compatriots are actually 18th century French poets, are imaginary, or are canines -- all that matters is that you have an organization. Give it a good official-sounding name. You've surely heard of Caltech and MIT; using the "Institute of Technology" moniker will definitely make everyone take you seriously for a change. The "Offapit Institute of Technology," for example, is repsonsible for "God Almighty's Grand Unified Theory," which is poised to change the way all of humankind thinks about science, if only the editors of PRL will give up their hubris and accept its superiority.....

- Warren

[Gokul43201]

Chroot ! This is just your way of suppressing all of us real thinkers here. Just because you're a mentor, you think you can go about trampling all over our "unconventional ideas". I'm sure you've never read any of Kaku's works....have you ? - I challenge you !

Just because your rigidly conditioned mind can not fathom the beauty of Energy Vortex Shadows, doesn't mean they don't exist !! And if they didn't exist, can you explain why atoms are not getting continuously electrocuted by the electrons that travel at nearly the speed of light, often tunneling through the nucleus ? You can't !!!

Do you know that QFT and QM, and even QED have no good explanation for 'mass' ? They just adjust parameters as they see fit, to make things look nice. And you call that science - shame on you !!!! If you even bothered to read what I've proposed, you'd see that the Mass Gap in Yang-Mills actually vanishes. But, you won't accept that, because it doesn't fit into your narrow definition of science. Bah !!!!!

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps in the ignorance of the scientific theory that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a pencil and stand opposed !!!!!!

:wink:

[jcsd]

How to be a crackpot:

...............
- Warren

That's just the kind of thing tht someone who has been educated stupid (i.e. an evil acdaemian) would say. Cublessness is a major problem in the American education system as educators refuse to recognize nature's harmonic simulatenous 4-day cube.

I've actually sent an e-mail to Gene Ray and for my troubles was called a dumbass, but I was only on the first corner of the timecube at the time.

[Gokul43201]

I've actually sent an e-mail to Gene Ray and for my troubles was called a dumbass, but I was only on the first corner of the timecube at the time.

Wow !! What did you say ? :eek:

[amwbonfire]

YOU are educated stupid.

Is that not an oxymoron? :eek:

[jcsd]

Wow !! What did you say ? :eek:

I suggested that a 4-cube, may of improved his model. But's he's quite adammant that nature's harmonic cube has only 4 corners.

[Adam]

Ignore those rules Chroot listed. He's just jealous because Gene Ray is the greatest thinker ever, the wisest human ever. It says so right there on the webpage.

[jimmy p]

Is that not an oxymoron? :eek:


I think Gene Ray needs some oxygen to his brain to stop him being a moron.

[pat777]

Gene Ray is even funnier on Television.

http://www.great-debate.com/tcc-techtv.wmv

[matthyaouw]

2 opposite sex Cubes equate to crap shoot.

I'm not even sure I want to ask what that means, but it sounds reasonably filthy...

A lot of his sentences remind me of what happens when I type a phrase into the Babelfish translator, take it through about 8 languages and then back to English, just to see how much coherency and sense it looses.

[wasteofo2]

ARE YOU JEWISH?
I Am Not Jewish, Neither
Was My Mother Or Father.

Anyone saying that Jesus
and his Jewish father had
something to do with my
birth, is a damn evil liar.

I am of Nature's Harmonic
Time Cube - in which both
word and god are outlawed.
No plant nor animal speaks
word, a fraud by evil adults.

[check]

Aww... this guy's even sadder than the www.inventor-warp-speed.com guy. LoL

[Smurf]

He's just jealous because Gene Ray is the greatest thinker ever, the wisest human ever. It says so right there on the webpage.
*Ah-Hem* Hellloo, I think you forgot someone?

[franznietzsche]

OH GOD IT BURNS!!!


AS if my headache wasn't bad enough before reading that.

[Hypercase]

WOW! chroot. Post 11 on this thread, is a perfect description of this guy who sits next to me in physics class.
Especially point no: 10. Oh my god chroot, i think we hav a match.
He droped out of physics class(high school) to pursue Quantum physics. and now he haunts the theory development thread.

[franznietzsche]

WOW! chroot. Post 11 on this thread, is a perfect description of this guy who sits next to me in physics class.
Especially point no: 10. Oh my god chroot, i think we hav a match.
He droped out of physics class(high school) to pursue Quantum physics. and now he haunts the theory development thread.


You're just educated stupid and jealous of his infinite brilliance!!

FOOLS!!!!!

[Hypercase]

Well of course!! What else could it be?? :\

[franznietzsche]

Well of course!! What else could it be?? :\

Cerebral Disfunction?

[check]

A lot of his sentences remind me of what happens when I type a phrase into the Babelfish translator, take it through about 8 languages and then back to English, just to see how much coherency and sense it looses.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I love that game!

[matthyaouw]

Lets try it:
A cube is a six sided object, with little or no relevence to the wider world, philosophy, theology and religion. Only a stupid student, or a literate dunce would think otherwise.

via about 5 different languages, we have:

"A cube n'en is a six object, provided with the sides, relevence wenigem or no one in the widest world, the philosophy, the theology and the religion. Only one idiot of participating courses or that is cultivated last one would think differently."

yeah that sounds about right...

[Tom Mattson]

RPI incurrs a Cubic curse, evil for ignoring
Time Cube. RPI professors will eat dung
before they allow students to debate Time
Cube Life, as free speech suppression.
Students must stop such evil, or perish.


Oh no! My alma mater! :eek:

[tribdog]

damn, I just did the math...this guy's right.

[matthyaouw]

So looking at this slightly more seriously- what exactly is that guy talking about? I've not been able to make much sense of any of it, apart from the bits where he's calling me stupid. Can anyone actually explain to me what he's on about?

[franznietzsche]

So looking at this slightly more seriously- what exactly is that guy talking about? I've not been able to make much sense of any of it, apart from the bits where he's calling me stupid. Can anyone actually explain to me what he's on about?


Thats the point. he's a total crackpot. No sane person could hope to understnad him. Even I, in my relative insanity, have no clue.

[matthyaouw]

Oh good, then its not just me!
He's really good at getting followers, telling every one sided stupid scholar and uneducated student with less than 3 corners they'd be better off dead. Truely a master of pursuasion...

[Moonbear]

Thats the point. he's a total crackpot. No sane person could hope to understnad him. Even I, in my relative insanity, have no clue.

Did you try reading it while you were awake last night with another bout of insomnia? Some of those posts were beginning to indicate you were sinking closer to his level. Stay awake a few more nights and let us know if you gain any insights that us stupid educated are missing out on by going to sleep at night. :rofl: :rofl:

[franznietzsche]

No, even in that insanity, i couldn't understand it. And yeah i was getting pretty bad there. As it is, i only slept for an hour. Yay for coffee.

[Moonbear]

No, even in that insanity, i couldn't understand it. And yeah i was getting pretty bad there. As it is, i only slept for an hour. Yay for coffee.

Eat lots of turkey. Even coffee isn't counteracting the drowsiness I'm fighting today after the luncheon we had here. I've given up on being productive and now am just trying to look busy in my office.

[franznietzsche]

Eat lots of turkey. Even coffee isn't counteracting the drowsiness I'm fighting today after the luncheon we had here. I've given up on being productive and now am just trying to look busy in my office.


But i have another class later tonight, so i need to be awake, at least barely.

[Moonbear]

But i have another class later tonight, so i need to be awake, at least barely.

You have night classes and still have insomnia??!! I'm afraid there's no cure for such a severe case as that! I've been a night owl my whole life, but night classes used to do me in...but, I never took anything important at night, just multivariable calc and most of my graduate level courses. :rofl:

[franznietzsche]

You have night classes and still have insomnia??!! I'm afraid there's no cure for such a severe case as that! I've been a night owl my whole life, but night classes used to do me in...but, I never took anything important at night, just multivariable calc and most of my graduate level courses. :rofl:


I ahve some dawn classes, and some night classes. Nothing in between. And yeah, i still don't sleep. It really is a disease methinks.

Of course when i think about it, maybe i shouldn't complain. Being tired is better than the nightmares.

[motai]

Oh dear god he has another webpage in addition to http://www.timecube.com...

http://www.abovegod.com

He's even corrupted Wikipedia...

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gene_Ray

and has his own personal following...

http://www.great-debate.com/links.htm

... and an online petition to have the Time Cube accepted as a scientifically credible theory in the scientific community (so far it has 864 total signatures for some reason). I'd rather not put down a link to this, it'll just further the ignorance this guy is spouting.

I did find a good summary of this guy and his "theory"...

http://www.thebestlinks.com/Time_Cube.html



bah. I gotta wash my mouth out after looking at this junk. The grammar is atrocious...