Dreams: A Window Into Our Ancestor's Lives?

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The discussion explores the concept of whether dream experiences from ancestors can be inherited genetically. Participants consider the implications of genetic memory and the potential for dreams to reflect ancestral experiences, while also debating the nature of genetic information and its limitations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if bizarre dreams could be a replay of ancestors' life experiences, suggesting a genetic transmission of such memories.
  • Another participant asserts that the germ-line is set at birth, indicating that acquired traits or experiences, including dreams, cannot be passed down genetically.
  • A participant proposes that genes encode information beyond biology, potentially at multiple scientific levels, and predicts that this understanding will evolve over time.
  • Some participants challenge the idea that dreams can be encoded in DNA, arguing that DNA is relatively static and can only undergo mutation or shuffling.
  • There is a discussion about the potential for using genetic engineering to store written language in DNA, with references to encoding various forms of data.
  • One participant raises the concept of genetic computing, questioning its definition and relevance in the context of the discussion.
  • Another participant highlights the evolving understanding of 'junk DNA' and its potential significance, suggesting that our knowledge of genetic material may be incomplete.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the inheritance of dreams and the capabilities of genetic material. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing opinions on the nature of genetic information and its implications for memory and data storage.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about genetic transmission and the functions of DNA, particularly regarding the evolving understanding of genetic material and its roles.

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Can dream experience's from our Parents/Ancestors lives, be passed on via Genetic hereditary?

For instance, can some of my most bizarre dreams, actually be a replay of one of my ancestors life-experience..event?

The Timeline of experience (events), played out in my dreams seem to have no baring on my own real-life experience, so I am wondering if it is possible that genetic code somehow retains information of my ancestors/parents, and somehow throws it into my sub-conscious, which leaks out as Dream?
 
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The germ-line is set at birth, so no acquired traits and/or dreams will be passed.

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Olias said:
Can dream experience's from our Parents/Ancestors lives, be passed on via Genetic hereditary?

For instance, can some of my most bizarre dreams, actually be a replay of one of my ancestors life-experience..event?

The Timeline of experience (events), played out in my dreams seem to have no baring on my own real-life experience, so I am wondering if it is possible that genetic code somehow retains information of my ancestors/parents, and somehow throws it into my sub-conscious, which leaks out as Dream?

The 'PRIMITIVE TRACES' of what you are thinking now already exist. I have thoght long and hard on this for many years, but I am quite sure that no scientist in his/her clear mind would give this even a glance, let alone accept it. I am taking this your thinking a step further ... Parents will in the very nearest future write 'Gene-letters' to their future grand children, and so will eternal lovers.
 
The BIG Problem: Scientists only annex less than what the genes are capable of doing. Genes are an information coding system and this is not limited to biology. Genes also code information at multiple scientific levels, especially, substantially, at the level of physics. I predict that until we come to the appreciation of this fact, scientists would for a very long time to come underate and underutilise 'genetic abilities'.
 
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Philocrat, you are joking right? DNA is relatively static and can only mutate or shuffle: information such as dreams can not become coded.
 
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Monique said:
Philocrat said:
I am taking this your thinking a step further ... Parents will in the very nearest future write 'Gene-letters' to their future grand children
Philocrat, you are joking right? DNA is relatively static and can only mutate or shuffle: information such as dreams can not become coded.
Philocrat is not speaking of dreams. He is speaking of using genetic engineering to encode written language into "unused" portions of DNA. If we used four DNA bases per character, we would have 256 possibilities for each character (4[itex]^4[/itex]). This many possibilities would allow the 26 letters of the alphabet, plus many puncuation characters and special characters, just like ASCII and ISO-8859, etc. On the other hand, we might just skip the plain text and instead encode HTML or JAVA or special programs. We might even add another chromosome to the human genome, just for storing computer programs. Thanks for the idea, Philocrat. I might put this in one of my novels.
 
Monique said:
Philocrat, you are joking right? DNA is relatively static and can only mutate or shuffle: information such as dreams can not become coded.

I am not joking...shuffling is a much smarter way to code. Yes, you may be right about DNA, but it's decisively so. By the way, I say 'Amen!' to your prayer.
 
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hitssquad said:
Philocrat is not speaking of dreams. He is speaking of using genetic engineering to encode written language into "unused" portions of DNA. If we used four DNA bases per character, we would have 256 possibilities for each character (4[itex]^4[/itex]). This many possibilities would allow the 26 letters of the alphabet, plus many puncuation characters and special characters, just like ASCII and ISO-8859, etc. On the other hand, we might just skip the plain text and instead encode HTML or JAVA or special programs. We might even add another chromosome to the human genome, just for storing computer programs. Thanks for the idea, Philocrat. I might put this in one of my novels.

Are you suggesting the possibility of 'GENETIC COMPUTING'? I thought that this was already possible? Am I wrong?
 
Genetic computing

Philocrat said:
Are you suggesting the possibility of 'GENETIC COMPUTING'?
No. I was only suggesting storing socially-significant-but-gentetically-insignificant data in genetic material. What is genetic computing besides an extra-genetic data-mining method specific to genomic data?
 
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hitssquad said:
No. I was only suggesting storing socially-significant-but-gentetically-insignificant data in genetic material. What is genetic computing besides an extra-genetic data-mining method specific to genomic data?

Thanks for clearing that up, pal!
 
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hitssquad said:
No. I was only suggesting storing socially-significant-but-gentetically-insignificant data in genetic material. What is genetic computing besides an extra-genetic data-mining method specific to genomic data?
This pre-supposes that we know what 'genetically-insignificant' in genetic material is! IIRC, what was once called 'junk DNA' is now seen - at least in part - as performing rather important functions (having rather important roles?); the genome may turn out to be even richer and more complex than our current understanding. (or not).
 

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