PDA

View Full Version : Evaluate integration


CellCoree
Sep3-04, 02:03 AM
Evaluate \int t^{14} ln(t) dt


using integration by parts and formula uv-\intv du

u=ln(t)
du=1/t
dv=t^14
v=t^15/15

lnt*t^15/15-\intt^15/15*1/t

lnt*t^15/15-t^14*log(t)

i dont know what im doing wrong, please help

jamesrc
Sep3-04, 02:20 AM
First step is fine. You're over-thinking the second step:

\int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225}

So the answer should read:

\int{\left(\ln t\right) t^{14} dt} = \frac{t^{15}}{15} \left(\ln t - \frac{1}{15} \right)

arildno
Sep3-04, 04:46 AM
Evaluate \int t^{14} ln(t) dt


using integration by parts and formula uv-\intv du

u=ln(t)
du=1/t
dv=t^14
v=t^15/15

lnt*t^15/15-\intt^15/15*1/t

lnt*t^15/15-t^14*log(t)

i dont know what im doing wrong, please help

DO NOT USE THIS HORRIBLE MIXTURE OF INTEGRATION BY PARTS AND INTEGRATION BY SUBSTITUTION!!
Write:
\int{uv'}dt=uv-\int{u'v}dt
u=ln(t)\to{u}'=\frac{1}{t}
v'=t^{14}\to{v}=\frac{1}{15}t^{15}

CellCoree
Sep3-04, 08:25 AM
DO NOT USE THIS HORRIBLE MIXTURE OF INTEGRATION BY PARTS AND INTEGRATION BY SUBSTITUTION!!
Write:
\int{uv'}dt=uv-\int{u'v}dt
u=ln(t)\to{u}'=\frac{1}{t}
v'=t^{14}\to{v}=\frac{1}{15}t^{15}


what do you mean? your setup is just like mines

arildno
Sep5-04, 09:20 AM
what do you mean? your setup is just like mines
Nope!
1. "Using formula uv-du"
Complete nonsense
If you want to use this method properly, write:
udv=d(uv)-vdu
2.Furthermore
you use a meaningless constuction like du=1/t
If you want to use this method, you must write du=1/t*dt
3. Your integral lacks dt, and is therefore meaningless as well

CellCoree
Sep6-04, 08:26 PM
First step is fine. You're over-thinking the second step:

\int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225}

So the answer should read:

\int{\left(\ln t\right) t^{14} dt} = \frac{t^{15}}{15} \left(\ln t - \frac{1}{15} \right)


ok i know how you got \int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt

but how did you get

\int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225}

i know you got the anti-derv. of it, and i tried to look in my book for a form like that, but i cant find it. can you explain to me how you did that?

for \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt i used u-du sub.

u=14
du=u+1

so... t^u/du but i cant seem to find that form in the book

Dr Transport
Sep6-04, 09:38 PM
\int \frac{t^{14}}{15} dt = \frac{1}{15}\int t^{14} dt = \frac{1}{15}\frac{t^{15}}{15} =

\frac{t^{15}}{(15)^{2}} = \frac{t^{15}}{225}