First Step in Finding an Integration Reduction Formula for (4-x^2)^n

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The discussion revolves around finding an integration reduction formula for the integral of the function (4 - x²) raised to the power of n, specifically over the interval from 0 to 2. Participants explore various methods and approaches, including integration by parts, substitutions, and potential simplifications, while sharing their progress and challenges.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on starting the integration process for the integral of (4 - x²)ⁿ.
  • Another suggests using integration by parts or binomial expansion as potential methods.
  • A participant claims to have a solution and requests a few minutes to verify it.
  • One participant proposes a substitution (x = 2 sin u) to simplify the integral, leading to a trigonometric form.
  • Another participant questions the validity of letting m = 2n - 1 for n > 0 in the context of reduction formulas.
  • A participant shares a detailed solution involving integration by parts and a clever manipulation of the integral, concluding with a formula relating Iₙ and Iₙ₋₁.
  • One participant expresses regret for not recognizing a previously seen method in the solution provided.
  • A later reply inquires about the initial steps of the solution shared by another participant.

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Participants express various methods and approaches, but there is no consensus on a single solution or method. Some participants agree on the validity of certain approaches, while others raise questions about their applicability.

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Some participants mention challenges in recalling techniques and the potential complexity of the reduction formula, indicating that assumptions and familiarity with certain methods may affect the discussion.

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I'm trying to find an integration reduction formula for the following equation:

[tex] {{I}_n}=\int _{0}^{2}{{\big(4-{x^2}\big)}^n}\delta x[/tex]

Any indication on how to begin would be much appreciated as I've tried many different approaches but all have ended in failure.

Thanks
 
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I'd try to repeatedly integrate by parts or possibly use the binomial expansion.
 
I think I have a solution just give me 5 mins to see if it works.
 
O.K it's been quite a few months since I've done this, so I can't remember if this reduction formulae is fairly simple.

If you use the substitution:

[tex]x = 2 \sin u[/tex]

It becomes:

[tex]\frac{1}{2}4^n\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \left( \cos^{2n-1} u \right) du[/tex]

I'm sure that can be done with a few trig identities and standard results but it's too late for me to think about it sorry.
 
Thanks for the swift responses guys I'll have a go at that tomorrow.
 
I'm not sure about this but referring back to my previous post could you just let m = 2n - 1 for n > 0 and then that's a fairly standard reduction formulae. I've never done something like that for a reduction formulae but I don't see why it can't be done.
 
You may well be able to do that, Zurtex, and I also don't see why it wouldn't work, the only trouble is that it wouldn't prove the relation I was asked to prove.

I managed to solve it (with help from maths teacher) using a very clever trick indeed. The solution is as follows if anyone is interested:

[tex] {I }_n}\multsp =\int _{0}^{2}{{\big(4-{x^2}\big)}^n}\delta x \\\noalign\vspace{1.08333ex}} \\= {{{{\big[x{{\big(4-{x^2}\big)}^n}\big]}_0}}^2}+2n\int _{0}^{2}{x^2}{{\big(4-{x^2}\big)}^{n-1}}\delta<br /> x \\\noalign{\vspace{1.08333ex}} \\ \multsp \multsp \multsp \multsp \multsp \multsp =\multsp 2n\int _{0}^{2}\big(4-\big[4-{x^2}\big]\big){{\big(4-{x^2}\big)}^{n-1}}\delta x[/tex]

[tex] \noalign{\vspace{1.08333ex}} \\ {{I }_n}\multsp \multsp =\multsp 8n\int _{0}^{2}{{\big(4-{x^2}\big)}^{n-1}}\delta x-2n\multsp {{I }_n} \\ \noalign{\vspace{0.833333ex}}[/tex]

[tex] {{I }_n}\multsp \multsp =\multsp 8n\multsp {{I }_{n-1}}-2n\multsp {{I }_n}[/tex]

[tex] \noalign{\vspace{0.916667ex}} \\<br /> {{I }_n}\multsp \multsp =\multsp \frac{8n}{2n+1}{{I }_{n-1}[/tex]

The trick, which I wouldn't have thought of for a very long time, was to write the [tex]x^2[/tex] term as [tex](4-[4-x^2])[/tex]
 
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I thought I'd seen that before, that's really silly of me not to spot. Well done for working it out.
 
What happens in the very first step of the solution?
 

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