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relinquished™
Sep29-04, 08:45 AM
I'm supposed to prove that in a geometric distribution, the expected value,


\mu = \frac{1}{p}


without the use of moment generating functions (whatever that is)

I start off with the very definition of the expected value.


\mu_x = E(x) = \sum x \cdot p \cdot (1-p)^{x-1}



\mu_x = p \sum x \cdot (1-p)^{x-1}



\mu_x = p \sum x \cdot (1-p)^x \cdot (1-p)^{-1}



\mu_x = \frac{p}{1-p} \sum x \cdot (1-p)^x


Now I get stuck because I don't know how to evaluate the summation. Can anyone help me out?

btw, x starts from 1 to n

matt grime
Sep29-04, 09:19 AM
can you sum y^r as r goes from 1 to n. what if you differentiate both sides?

relinquished™
Sep29-04, 12:09 PM
I am assuming that y^r is (1-p)^x. If I would convert the summation into its series and differentiate both sides, what would be the derivative of \mu_x?

matt grime
Sep29-04, 12:20 PM
erm, what? i indicated to you how to sum a certain kind of series, the series you wanted to sum. i'm not doing anything with differentiating mu_x.

relinquished™
Sep29-04, 12:24 PM
err... sorry, my bad. So, when you said differentiate both sides I thought both sides of the equation. What you really mean is that in order to evaluate the summation you need to differentiate, am I understanding it right?

matt grime
Sep30-04, 03:35 AM
you know a formula :

S(n) = sum 1 to n of y^r

that is anequation in y, diff wrt to y and you'll find a formula for a sum that looks a lot like the one you want to sum in your problem. you've pulled that factor of 1/(1-p) out when you shouldn't have: it'll make it more transparent when you put it back in.