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She passed away on 9/Nov/2004 3pm
She lived 93 year-old.
What is the average life span of american female?
less than that, she lived a good long time, sorry for your loss.
US Life Expectancy at birth
total population: 77.43 years
male: 74.63 years
female: 80.36 years (2004 est.)
she died peacefully.
my father and uncles do a buddhism funeral ritual for her, she is a buddhist.
we spent 150USD to publish a obituary on local newspaper
she was born on 1911 in China Mainland, then shifted to malaysia with my grandpa,
my grand pa died of throat cancer in 1971 at 68 year-old, he was heavy smoker of cigar (without filter), he died in hospital in Kuala Lumpur during radiation therapy, during that time, malaysia was still very underdeveloped, only a single hospital in KL had radiation therapy, when he died, nobody was at his side .
If you don't mind me asking, whats a buddhist funeral like?
If you don't mind me asking, whats a buddhist funeral like?
Some buddhist monks/nuns will come and setup the statue of buddha, then they will lead reciting the scriptures of buddhism, and the merit will be transfered to the dead. Hope that the dead will be born in the so-called paradise of Amithaba (one of the Buddhas who lives in the west), or, at least the dead will be born again in a better situation, won't go to hell or born as animals.
Tomorrow (Saturday here) will be my grandma's funeral,
her body will be cremated (lack of land to bury dead people in malaysia, cremation is more popular now, and cheaper) and the ashes will be put in a buddhist temple at the back of my house.
About 4 weeks ago, she started to be in subsconcious condition,
couldn't eat much, my aunty only fed her with liquid milk, all relatives were informed,
her most-loved daughter, flew back from Australia to see her for ten days, went back on 8/Nov, and my grandma passed away on 9/Nov, so she can't attend her funeral.
My aunty is a nurse in Australia, she saw a lot of dead people before, she said that my grandma can't live any longer, surely to die soon. We did not feel too sad, because she is old enough to say Goodbye to this world, 93 years old is quite long !!!!
less than that, she lived a good long time, sorry for your loss.
US Life Expectancy at birth
total population: 77.43 years
male: 74.63 years
female: 80.36 years (2004 est.)
Any special reasons that female lives longer than male ?
In US, after cremation, where do you put the ashes?
For land burial, how much it will cost ?
For people who died >80 years old, the relative will wear Red instead of Black,
because it is not a bad news to die so old. :smile:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/saint2300/grandma1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/saint2300/grandma2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/saint2300/grandma3.jpg
Any special reasons that female lives longer than male ?
They Eat less McDonalds
My great grandmother died when she was around 90 years old. I had to wear white to the funeral.
Math Is Hard
Nov12-04, 12:18 AM
I am sorry for your loss, Saint. What is your favorite memory of your grandmother?
Please accept my sorry for your loss.
The good memories of you grandmother will still alive among the people who she loved adn they loved her.
A saying from my culture: "Who have sons and grandsons...will not die"
I know she ate porridge everyday.
She ate ver little meat, but more vegetables. Maybe this gives her long life.
Please accept my sorry for your loss.
The good memories of you grandmother will still alive among the people who she loved adn they loved her.
A saying from my culture: "Who have sons and grandsons...will not die"
thankyou, very wise saying.
I am sorry for your loss and thank you for treating us worthy of the news and sharing it with us. Take it easy.
Any special reasons that female lives longer than male ?
One reason is males are more likely to engage in riskier activities. They are more likely to die in work place accidents or suffer life-shortening work related injuries or diseases. They are also more likely to pursue riskier non-work related activities.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/saint2300/grandma5.jpg
I am so sorry to hear of your loss. She will continue to live in your heart.
I am so sorry to hear of your loss. She will continue to live in your heart.
YES She Will, Forever.
the coffin was put into the furnace for cremation
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/saint2300/popo1.jpg
group photo of relatives.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/saint2300/popo2.jpg
My Grandma is peaceful now, Forever!!!
i miss her, last night i dreamed her, she just appeared a while in my dream.
Holy Cow ! I did not know they burn coffin too :bugeye: .What a waste, it could be reused it.
By the way saint sorry for your relative death, be strong, soon we will also go up with the smoke :wink:
PS My grandmother died at 74, she had veins full of fat and blood simply could not get to the brain.I'm vegan now.
last night i dreamed about her again.
The_Professional
Nov21-04, 07:35 PM
last night i dreamed about her again.
Must be a nice dream ;)
Math Is Hard
Nov21-04, 07:40 PM
last night i dreamed about her again.
she's just letting you know she's happy and well in the next life. :smile:
Physics_wiz
Nov21-04, 08:15 PM
I was little when my grandma died, but I remember every second of that day. I always take a nap around 3 pm so that day I took my nap as usual. My grandma had cancer and was sick for a long time (at that time I didn't even know she had cancer). I had a dream when I was sleeping that she was in a boat, sleeping and crossing a river. On the left side of the river I saw many women and men in black crying. On the right side I saw angels playing music. The boat was moving from left to right while she was sleeping on it. It makes me wonder if there's any more to us than atheists think, but anyways, I woke up and my aunt told me that my grandma died. She died in the same hour I had that dream (maybe even the same second).
I never had anyone extremely close to me die yet (Thank God), but I thought about it a lot. People get very sad when their relatives die and I can understand why. But all of us are going to die one day, so should I start thinking about what to do when my relatives die right now when they're not dead yet? I know they're gonna die, but all I can do is live my life normally until that day, and when that day comes I can cry and be as upset as I want to be (which is stupid because that day can be tomorrow) OR not be sad when they die (which is also stupid). Ah well, we all have to face death sometime but keep in mind that no one knows what's on the other side.
Sorry to hear about your loss.
How much money did she leave you?
How much money did she leave you?
She is a housewife, my grandpa died in 1970,
do you think she has money ? :frown:
I miss her not bcoz of money.
I miss her not bcoz of money.
Yeah! right :wink:
Math Is Hard
Nov21-04, 09:56 PM
Good gracious, tumor! Why are you making those assumptions? Have you not ever lost someone you loved? How can you be so callous?
Sorry about that Saint, i got carried away.Must be my brain tumor again :rofl:
Moonbear
Nov22-04, 12:10 AM
Sorry to be so tardy...
Saint, my condolences on your loss. It sounds like your grandmother lived a long life and it was her time to go. I've been fascinated reading along and learning of the Buddhist funeral traditions. I like that the religions recognizes it isn't as sad for an older person to die, and even signify it by wearing different colors. What is in the bowls during the cremation ceromony, and what does that signify?
the bowls contained some food,
chinese believes that dead people's souls need to eat too.
Good gracious, tumor! Why are you making those assumptions? Have you not ever lost someone you loved? How can you be so callous?
It's tumor. He was that way when he came out of the production line.
the bowls contained some food,
chinese believes that dead people's souls need to eat too.
This is going into the oven too?... what a waste.
This is going into the oven too?... what a waste.
So, burning candles also a waste?
Giving offering to churches also a waste?
So, burning candles also a waste?
Giving offering to churches also a waste?
You have a point there,but i think giving to churches at least in greedy N.America is a HUGE waste.
You have a point there,but i think giving to churches at least in greedy N.America is a HUGE waste.
you think the money goes into the pocket of pastors/priests, it was not used for public wellfare.
franznietzsche
Nov22-04, 07:54 PM
you think the money goes into the pocket of pastors/priests, it was not used for public wellfare.
Yeah, pretty much.
That's a pretty well known fact.
you think the money goes into the pocket of pastors/priests, it was not used for public wellfare.
Pastor, priest or rabbi for me means thief.
Con-man, Scammer, Exploiter of the middle class.
It is easy money though.Especially here in the land of brave and stu...!
I wish I had the talent to talk gibberish :frown:, maybe should i read more Biblie?
franznietzsche
Nov22-04, 08:45 PM
It is easy money though.Especially here in the land of brave and stu...!
I wish I had the talent to talk gibberish :frown:, maybe should i read more Biblie?
But then you might become a bible hump...thumper!!
I tried reading the bible once.. I didn't get much farther than "There was Light"....
Advice#1 . always keep bible handy, in case you run out of toilet paper.
Moonbear
Nov22-04, 09:42 PM
Guys, you're being awfully callous here! I asked Saint to share with us some of the rituals in a Buddhist funeral, and here you're mocking him when he's just come from the funeral of a loved relative! That's just cruel. Whatever your differences, this is not the time or place for it.
I think it's interesting that they leave food for the deceased. Didn't ancient Egyptians have similar rituals? I love to learn of cultural differences, similarities, and how traditions have spread throughout cultures.
Physics_wiz
Nov22-04, 09:46 PM
Not sure about the food for Egyptians but I think when an Egyptian pharaoh died, they killed his servants with him so that they could serve him in the after-life.
Moonbear? don't blame me o:) , nietzsche and smurf started it :mad:
I did hear a pastor said this on the podium "If you do not give 1/10 offering, you are actually Stealing from God ; if God can't get what he wants, the Devil will come to take it from you; you may lose your money due to sickness or other misfortunes".
What do you think about his talk?
An intimidation?
The true Buddhism is vegetarian,
only fruits and vegetables will be put to worship their Buddha/Bodisatwa,
for chinese,
we put chicken, pork etc. for our ancestors.
Well..if pastor says something like that, it must be truth. :rolleyes:
Moonbear
Nov22-04, 10:03 PM
I did hear a pastor said this on the podium "If you do not give 1/10 offering, you are actually Stealing from God ; if God can't get what he wants, the Devil will come to take it from you; you may lose your money due to sickness or other misfortunes".
What do you think about his talk?
An intimidation?
I do think that was intimidation, and not very Christian sounding for a pastor. The 1/10th offering is straight from the Bible, but not many people really adhere to that much anymore.
Moonbear
Nov22-04, 10:06 PM
The true Buddhism is vegetarian,
only fruits and vegetables will be put to worship their Buddha/Bodisatwa,
for chinese,
we put chicken, pork etc. for our ancestors.
Is there a reason for including meat now when Buddhism is traditionally vegetarian, or just a shift from older traditions to newer ones or relaxing the rules?
The true Buddhism is vegetarian,
only fruits and vegetables will be put to worship their Buddha/Bodisatwa,
for chinese,
we put chicken, pork etc. for our ancestors.
So this is Buddhism a-la Chinese edition? In this case you are going to hell.
Buddhism came from India to China,
traditional chinese does not follow everything of buddhism.
It is common that chinese worship their ancestors with meat.
But buddhist chinese will not do this.
In my grandma funeral, there was no meat, only vegetarian food.
Entropy
Nov23-04, 09:59 AM
I'm sorry man. My grandmom is terminally ill and she is 83. She has had a bad series of strokes the past year. She lost some of her memory and for awhile was totally out of it. For a few weeks she thought she was 13 and didn't remember any of my relatives. Its really painful to see someone you love like that. We're going to see her for Thanksgiving. It will probably be the last time I see her, she is probably only live a few more months. I keep telling myself that she has lived a better and longer life than most people.
Math Is Hard
Nov23-04, 10:15 AM
I'm sorry, Entropy. That's a shame, and I am really sorry to hear that.
I am going through the same thing with my grandpa right now. My grandma died a couple of years ago, but he doesn't remember her death so he keeps asking my family what happened to her.
Moonbear
Nov23-04, 11:48 AM
Entropy and MIH, that's really rough. The dementia is the hardest to deal with. When my grandmother passed away, several years ago now, it was a bit of a blessing. She had been suffering from episodes of dementia, not just forgetfulness, but hallucinations (I think some of it was brought on by her addiction to percoset at the end...she was in such pain from another illness, and so old, that it was hardly worth putting her through withdrawal symptoms too to get her off the percoset, though her doctor was an idiot not to monitor her usage more carefully sooner). She had periods of lucidity in between, and those were the hardest, because she KNEW her mind was going and to her, that was far worse than her body failing. Mostly my aunts took care of her toward the end, but it would get to be too much for them at times, especially when she was really badly hallucinating and calling them at all hours of the night. When they stopped answering their phones because they couldn't take it anymore, I got the phone calls (she usually had a visiting nurse overnight, but those nurses aren't really equipped to handle mental illness like that, they can just ensure the patients are fed and have help getting to the bathroom if they need it and keep her from falling down stairs as she wanders the house, and my grandmother was so obnoxious to them, none of them lasted long). Anyway, there was nothing to be done. Sometimes if I called her back, that would help snap her out of it because there was some part of her that could still reason that if I knew where to call her, she must still be safely in her house even if she thought she was somewhere else.
So, it's rough. The more people you have around to share the burden, the better.
Thanks guys! I'm sooo depressed now :frown: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Thanks guys! I'm sooo depressed now :frown: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Crocodile's tears
i'm not kidding :cry:
by the way Saint, how much did you get it(cash)from grandma RIP?
i am able to earn money for myself, i don't hope anyone to give me money.
Crocodile's tears
I've never heard this expression before, what's it mean? where'd it come from?
I've never heard this expression before, what's it mean? where'd it come from?
It means to be insincere.
In older times people believed that crocidilles weep when eating their prey,some form of liquid must be coming out to protect eye of crocodille when exposed to the hot weather.
Shakespare and other literali started using this expression and the rest is history.
Ha ha I guess this one is widely spread in Asian Cultures [from China to Palestine]
Wel, Smurf, this means a fake tears/cry about something, and mostly as well means that that person was the cuase of the "sad/evil" which he "cry" about.
Coming from the Crocodiles who starts tearing after eating an animal! Since it is odd to interpret there tears as if they are sad about the that animal death which they croc have just killed and ate.
[BTW: I guess the scientific exp for that is the croc is getting the salt away from his body in this way to keep the salt level in the blood balanced and in its norm levels.....since animals are "salty" according to his taste mood :rolleyes: ]
haha. i was typing that post ^ when tumor replied....
Two opinions are stronger than one :biggrin:
Moonbear
Nov26-04, 01:43 PM
Hey cool, you learn something new every day! I knew what the expression "crocodile tears" meant, but I never knew the origins of the phrase. I most often hear parents referring to children's crying to get something they want as crocodile tears...they aren't hurt and have no reason to cry, they just do it for the attention.
tribdog
Nov26-04, 08:19 PM
I'll never forget when my grandma died. Hey, I told her not to make a sound. It wasn't like I hadn't warned her and she was going to call the cops. It was self defense.
Did you get her cash, or you ended empty handed like Saint?
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