Why is spam porn so hard?

[Loren Booda]

I have seen few beautiful naked bodies e-mailed me, just mostly smut degrading and violating women, even extreme perversion and sadism, and subjects implying pedophilia. Why can't sites devoted to enjoyment of sex be more common on the 'net for curious adults? Creative soft porn would be a welcome change from assaultive and manipulative obscenity, eh?

[franznietzsche]

I have seen few beautiful naked bodies e-mailed me, just mostly smut degrading and violating women, even extreme perversion and sadism, and subjects implying pedophilia. Why can't sites devoted to enjoyment of sex be more common on the 'net for curious adults? Creative soft porn would be a welcome change from assaultive and manipulative obscenity, eh?


But apparently, and unfortunately it would not sell as well.

[chroot]

A lot of people look at porn specifically because it depicts sex that is different than the normal sex they have in own normal lives. It's a spectacle.

- Warren

[loseyourname]

It might be more difficult to find legitimate advertising space for harder and more perverse porn.

[franznietzsche]

A lot of people look at porn specifically because it depicts sex that is different than the normal sex they have in own normal lives. It's a spectacle.

- Warren


So...Porn is like politics?

[Moonbear]

Creative soft porn are what daytime soap operas are for, isn't it? :confused: :rofl:

[Les Sleeth]

I have seen few beautiful naked bodies e-mailed me, just mostly smut degrading and violating women, even extreme perversion and sadism, and subjects implying pedophilia. Why can't sites devoted to enjoyment of sex be more common on the 'net for curious adults? Creative soft porn would be a welcome change from assaultive and manipulative obscenity, eh?

Final editing decision: o:)

[Chrono]

Creative soft porn are what daytime soap operas are for, isn't it? :confused: :rofl:

That and these new "reality" shows. Since when have you ever heard of a "bachelor"?

[The_Professional]

Creative soft porn are what daytime soap operas are for, isn't it? :confused: :rofl:

You mean those cheesy Nicholas Sparks novels :!!)

[franznietzsche]

You mean those cheesy Nicholas Sparks novels :!!)


There needs to be a smiley for a neck-snapping twitch.

[tribdog]

A lot of people look at porn specifically because it depicts sex that is different than the normal sex they have in own normal lives. It's a spectacle.

- Warren
you just described my sex life better than I ever could. it's a spectacle.
"I've never seen such a thing"~ P.T. Barnum

[franznietzsche]

you just described my sex life better than I ever could. it's a spectacle.
"I've never seen such a thing"~ P.T. Barnum


Your real life name isn't Christian Troy is it?

[tribdog]

I'm still busy googling Nicholas Sparks, now I gotta look up Christian Troy too? Listen if you're gonna use pop culture references let's stick to the classics: Warner Bros. Cartoons, Bonanza and Dr. Seuss.

[franznietzsche]

Or i could use good ones.

[tribdog]

I don't think we need to go THERE now do we?

[Moonbear]

I'm still busy googling Nicholas Sparks, now I gotta look up Christian Troy too? Listen if you're gonna use pop culture references let's stick to the classics: Warner Bros. Cartoons, Bonanza and Dr. Seuss.

Wyle E. Coyote then?

[franznietzsche]

I don't think we need to go THERE now do we?


Nip/Tuck > All other television.

[aychamo]

I can tell you first hand seeing porn, like hardcore ****, like a girl with multiple partners, can really **** up your sex life with a girl you really love. You see these sluts on TV or movies or whatever, and you fear the girl you love would do that. It leads to jealousy, etc. It can really ruin a relationship.

[franznietzsche]

I can tell you first hand seeing porn, like hardcore ****, like a girl with multiple partners, can really **** up your sex life with a girl you really love. You see these sluts on TV or movies or whatever, and you fear the girl you love would do that. It leads to jealousy, etc. It can really ruin a relationship.


I don't think many of us have had that problem.

[chroot]

If seeing an image on a TV screen can screw up your relationship, I'd say you didn't have much of a relationship to begin with.

- Warren

[Math Is Hard]

I have seen few beautiful naked bodies e-mailed me, just mostly smut degrading and violating women, even extreme perversion and sadism...
Gosh! I'm sorry, Loren. I thought you liked those pictures I sent you. I'll try to soften it up a little, ok? :biggrin:

[franznietzsche]

Gosh! I'm sorry, Loren. I thought you liked those pictures I sent you. I'll try to soften it up a little, ok? :biggrin:


Where's the fun in that?

[Loren Booda]

I believe most couples who experiment with pornography together find it a turn-off compared to what God gave them.

It was you who sent those spam equations, Math is Hard? In my first days at Yale I saw in a bathroom stall an equation like "the integral of e to the x equals the function of u sub n"? It still haunts me. So much for freshman sex.

[Moonbear]

I believe most couples who experiment with pornography together find it a turn-off compared to what God gave them.

What do you mean by experimenting with it? Just watching together, trying to act it out along with the actors, or filming their own? And I guess it would depend which type of pornography you meant, since much of it just adds creative scenarios to what they already do, some of it will push boundaries and maybe introduce them to some new ideas, and some of it (apparently whatever you're getting in your email box) appears pretty painful and not at all appealing to want to try unless you're afflicted with a paraphelia. For couples to experiment, though, BOTH partners have to be interested and willing. If one is suggesting it and the other is not sure and pushed into it a bit, it will probably be a turn off to the one more inhibited. Most porn is also oriented toward a male audience, so just doesn't do much of anything for the women, so that would be a problem in viewing as a couple too. There are some out there (I've been told this o:) ) that are more appealing to women or to both sexes together. And with most things couples try together, there will be things you'll both like, things one or the other will like, and things you'll both dislike, so you just have to go with whatever works for you, not what other people tell you works for them.

[Thallium]

I have seen few beautiful naked bodies e-mailed me, just mostly smut degrading and violating women, even extreme perversion and sadism, and subjects implying pedophilia. Why can't sites devoted to enjoyment of sex be more common on the 'net for curious adults? Creative soft porn would be a welcome change from assaultive and manipulative obscenity, eh?

Why porn at all? Aren't people happy with the reeeeeeaaaal thing?

[Thallium]

I can tell you first hand seeing porn, like hardcore ****, like a girl with multiple partners, can really **** up your sex life with a girl you really love. You see these sluts on TV or movies or whatever, and you fear the girl you love would do that. It leads to jealousy, etc. It can really ruin a relationship.

What is scary is not imagining your woman doing what they do on that screen, but how she will react when she discovers you watching the screen.

[franznietzsche]

What is scary is not imagining your woman doing what they do on that screen, but how she will react when she discovers you watching the screen.


You'd be surprised how many don't react negatively.

[Moonbear]

You'd be surprised how many don't react negatively.

True. I think most of the women I know realize this is just something men do, and don't really care one way or the other. Most of the rest would want to view it with them, or would use it as incentive to see how far they need to go to distract their man from viewing. Only a handful are upset by this...not surprisingly, their men are usually the ones who are viewing porn secretly to substitute for what they aren't getting in other ways.

[franznietzsche]

True. I think most of the women I know realize this is just something men do, and don't really care one way or the other. Most of the rest would want to view it with them, or would use it as incentive to see how far they need to go to distract their man from viewing. Only a handful are upset by this...not surprisingly, their men are usually the ones who are viewing porn secretly to substitute for what they aren't getting in other ways.


Its always the quiet ones...

[Les Sleeth]

When lovers are good friends first and foremost is when sex can be a lot of fun. Then what a couple does is what they've learned they both like. When there is no issue about respect (i.e., when it's firmly there), then couples may start to treat sex as an opportunity to play.

Now, if one realizes consentual sex between adults isn't shameful in any, way shape or form, then one is free to play with one's lover in great many ways. Some of the varieties of sexual play, especially that which can develop over time as a relationship matures, might appear obscene to someone relatively naive about the play aspect, or who have self-esteem or guilt issues around sex.

But what might appear obscene from the outside is really due to the fact that some people like raunchy sexual "play." A woman, for instance, may "play" a whore in the bedroom with her friend-lover, and feel assured that outside the bedroom he knows they were just playing, and that her (and his) wicked behavior during sex has absolutely nothing to do with her (or his) character. Because the friendship is there, only issue between them is discovering the ways they both enjoy, or at least feel comfortable, playing.

One of the best things I've ever learned for enjoying the experience -- beyond respect, friendship, openness, and non-judgementalness about sex -- is how much fun it can be to figure out what turns on my lover, and make her hot as a firecracker doing that. :redface: There's more to be had through that vicarious route than most (men especially) realize. I suppose that's why I like to cook for people too. :smile:

[Moonbear]

Les, you've echoed my sentiments exactly!

[Dooga Blackrazor]

Pornography can be enjoyable. I'm not religious but I don't support the industry because I believe it negatively affects social and economic issues in society. I dislike that kind of spam as well. Since I'm a guy it is especially annoying and occasionally temporarily hampers my convictions to strive away from that material - which can be difficult.

[Moonbear]

Pornography can be enjoyable. I'm not religious but I don't support the industry because I believe it negatively affects social and economic issues in society. I dislike that kind of spam as well. Since I'm a guy it is especially annoying and occasionally temporarily hampers my convictions to strive away from that material - which can be difficult.

I certainly don't intend to come across as supporting porn spam. No spam is good, and porn spam is bad because it imposes that on people who may choose not to view it and who are offended by it. Those who are interested in porn know where to find it, so they don't need it delivered to their inbox either, unless they've requested it.

[Dooga Blackrazor]

Whoops, sorry about any lack of clarification in my post. I was just making a statement to everyone because it seemed like the thread was becoming a debate on pornography. I didn't think you came across as supporting porn spam.

[tribdog]

My ex watched more porn than I ever did. Got ideas that way. There is nothing wrong with porn or with any sexual act as long as it is consentual. I'm a big fan of trying new positions and toys and role playing and games. I don't think other people should be brought into the relationship though, I'm a one man one woman sort of guy. Other than that though anything goes as long as it feels good, and it's suprising how many things do.

[Thallium]

You'd be surprised how many don't react negatively.

You'd be horrified when you saw all the negative reactions. Kill 'em all.

[Thallium]

True. I think most of the women I know realize this is just something men do, and don't really care one way or the other. Most of the rest would want to view it with them, or would use it as incentive to see how far they need to go to distract their man from viewing. Only a handful are upset by this...not surprisingly, their men are usually the ones who are viewing porn secretly to substitute for what they aren't getting in other ways.

Yes, they have given up, got used to it, and they don't think there is any cure for it. Men = beasts.

[Thallium]

Some of the varieties of sexual play, especially that which can develop over time as a relationship matures, might appear obscene to some...

Particularly and only when it is forced up in others' faces.

[Les Sleeth]

Particularly and only when it is forced up in others' faces.

True, I really dislike all spam, and especially porno spam. So intrusive! I got off subject a little over someone talking about a woman acting "slutty." My impression was that he saw certain sexual behaviors as morally wrong. I believe a lot of sexual problems (especially in the US) have been needlessly caused by the shaming of sex. While porn might not be the best way to fix it, maybe it is something people are using to help shake off some that shame.

[tribdog]

. While porn might not be the best way to fix it, maybe it is something people are using to help shake off some that shame.
Well, I use it to shake off something. Wouldn't call it shame though.

[Math Is Hard]

It was you who sent those spam equations, Math is Hard? In my first days at Yale I saw in a bathroom stall an equation like "the integral of e to the x equals the function of u sub n"? It still haunts me. So much for freshman sex.
so THAT's what that means! I get it now! :smile:

[Gokul43201]

This is the version that resides on a wall in a men's room in my dept.
\int e^x = e^x + C

written to read like sex = ex + C

[chroot]

What's C supposed to be?

- Warren

[Moonbear]

This is the version that resides on a wall in a men's room in my dept.
\int e^x = e^x + C

written to read like sex = ex + C

Okay, I had to stare at this one for a very long time. Is ex+C supposed to be read "ecstasy?" Are you supposed to read the + as a t?

[Math Is Hard]

What's C supposed to be?

- Warren

I guess it would have to be zero.


(nevermind - I think I just said something stupid. I was dazzled by the shiny new logo.)

[Gokul43201]

I'm merely reporting what I see...but my best guess was that 'ex' refers to an ex-wife/ex-gf/etc and 'C' was possibly an offspring, as in child.

No humor in that, eh ? Oh well...

Moonbear, I like the "ecstasy" interpretation.