I dont understand how conditional probabilty works

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The discussion revolves around understanding conditional probability, specifically the calculation of P(A|B) in the context of a family with two children. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the application of the formula and the reasoning behind the correct answer in a specific scenario involving gender combinations of children.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conditional probability formula but questions the validity of their calculations. They explore the specific example of determining the probability of having two boys given that at least one child is a boy. Other participants provide alternative reasoning and interpretations of the problem, emphasizing the elimination of certain outcomes.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on the calculation of probabilities. Some provide clarifications regarding the independence of events and the correct interpretation of the sample space. There is no explicit consensus, but various approaches are being explored to enhance understanding.

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There is a mention of the assumption that all outcomes are equally likely, and participants are questioning the implications of this assumption on the calculations. The original poster also notes a discrepancy between their calculations and the answer provided in a textbook.

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so P(A|B) = P(A intersect B)/ P(B).

so, P(A intersect B) is the same as P(A) * P(B) right? so doesn't the P(B) always cancel out, and the answer will always be P(A)? That doesn't makes sense at all... :confused:

for example: A family has 2 children, and all possibilites are equally possible.

boy boy, boy girl, girl girl, girl boy.

what is the probability of getting Both boys, given that at least one is a boy.

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ok, so since each is equally possible, then there is 1/4 chance for each outcome.

and to have at least one boy, there is 2 chances, out of the 4 chances, which makes that 1/2.

so plug in the formula, and I get the wrong answer...(1/4 * 1/2)/1/4...which is wrong...

the book says the answer is 1/3...

so how do they do that? I don't understand the formula.
 
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The probability of both children being boys is [itex]\frac {1/4}{3/4} = \frac {1}{3}[/itex]. You can see this directly since the only possibilities are BB, BG, GB only one of which gives both boys.
 
semidevil said:
for example: A family has 2 children, and all possibilites are equally possible.

boy boy, boy girl, girl girl, girl boy.

what is the probability of getting Both boys, given that at least one is a boy.
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Put away the formula. The probability is: the number of ways the desired result can occur / the number of all possible results. There are 3 possible ways of having at least one boy (eliminate the girl girl possibility). There is only one way of having two boys. Therefore the probability of having two boys, given that the girl girl possibility is eliminated, is 1/3.

AM
 
semidevil said:
so, P(A intersect B) is the same as P(A) * P(B) right?
Only if A and B are independent (which they aren't in this case)

semidevil said:
and to have at least one boy, there is 2 chances, out of the 4 chances, which makes that 1/2.
There is at least one boy in 3 of the 4 cases
 

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