Finding the Period of a Vertical Spring Problem

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The problem involves determining the period of motion for an object attached to a vertical spring, which falls a certain distance before coming to rest. The subject area is oscillatory motion and spring dynamics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the force constant, displacement, and the weight of the object. There is an exploration of the meaning of the displacement and the equilibrium position of the spring-object system. Questions arise about the interpretation of the distance fallen and the conditions under which the object comes to rest.

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The discussion is active, with participants clarifying concepts related to the equilibrium position and the motion of the object. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of the displacement and the dynamics of the system, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to finding the period.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the definitions of displacement and equilibrium in the context of the spring-object system. There is a noted ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the distance fallen and its implications for the calculations.

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An object of unknown mass is hung on the end of an unstretched spring and is released from rest. If the object falls 3.42 cm before first coming to rest, find the period of the motion.

Doing a summation of forces, i see that the force constant k times the displacement y is equal to the weight of the object. From this I see that (k/m)=(g/y). That means the angular frequency (omega) is equal to the square root of (g/y). Knowing that the period of the oscillation T is the inverse of the frequency, i get T=(2pie)/omega which is then (2pie) divided the square root of (g/y). Solving for T, i get 0.371 seconds. However, this doesn't seem to be the right answer. The correct answer is 0.262 seconds, but I just don't see how that answer was obtained. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Torquenstein101 said:
Doing a summation of forces, i see that the force constant k times the displacement y is equal to the weight of the object.
That's true if y is the displacement from equilibrium. But the object falls twice that distance before it reverses direction.
 
Torquenstein101 said:
An object of unknown mass is hung on the end of an unstretched spring and is released from rest. If the object falls 3.42 cm before first coming to rest, find the period of the motion.
I don't understand the meaning of "before first coming to rest"? Does it mean "before passing the point from where the object was released"?

That's true if y is the displacement from equilibrium. But the object falls twice that distance before it reverses direction.
Are we talking about the equilibrium position of the spring alone or of the spring/object system? Why would the object fall 2y?
 
e(ho0n3 said:
I don't understand the meaning of "before first coming to rest"? Does it mean "before passing the point from where the object was released"?
No. The object starts from rest at maximum amplitude from its equilibrium point, then falls past that equilibrium point to the point of maximum amplitude at the bottom of its motion.


Are we talking about the equilibrium position of the spring alone or of the spring/object system?
It's the equilbrium position of the object: where the net force on it is zero.
Why would the object fall 2y?
Because it oscillates from +y to -y about the equilibrium point.
 
Doc Al said:
No. The object starts from rest at maximum amplitude from its equilibrium point, then falls past that equilibrium point to the point of maximum amplitude at the bottom of its motion.

I see. So we're talking about the equilibrium pos. of the object. This makes more sense now. I can see why it would be 2y then.
 

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