B value for water in osilations

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The discussion centers around the damping constant "b" for water in the context of damped oscillations. Participants explore the definition of "b," its implications for different substances, and the factors influencing its value in experimental setups.

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  • One participant inquires about the specific value of the damping constant "b" for water in damped oscillations.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the meaning of "b," leading to a definition that describes it as the damping constant of a substance affecting oscillations.
  • A participant explains that the damping constant for water can vary with temperature and suggests that it can be calculated using the mass of the object, spring constant, and angular velocity.
  • One participant argues that a single damping coefficient for water cannot be specified due to the complexity of the system, indicating that the damping coefficient is dependent on the entire dynamical system and must be extracted from experimental data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the damping constant for water, with some suggesting it can be calculated under certain conditions while others emphasize its variability and dependence on the system.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of determining a single damping coefficient for water, which may depend on various factors including temperature and the specifics of the experimental setup.

johnny b
I was just wondering if anybody knew the b value of water, when it is concered with damped isolations, any input would be great thanks
 
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It would help if you shared the meaning of b.
 
replay to meaning of b

the value "b" refers to the costant that a subsatnce would have when damping an osolation. Such as when a device is a attached to a spring, (with the attached device placed in a sunbstance) and the attached device is put in honey the honey would dampen the vibrations more then say if the attached device was placed in water. Therefore the b value is the value referring to the damping constant of the substance used. And it is the b value for water that I am wondering.
 
Viscosity?
η=ρvλ/3, where:
ρ is the density
v=√(8RT/πμ)
λ=0.057μ/ρr2
 
b = damping constant

The damping constant of water changes with tempature.
You can figure it out if you have the mass of the object(m), the spring constant(k), and the angular velocity(w).

http://www.kingsu.ab.ca/~brian/phys/phys205/labs/lab2/lab2.html

Hope this helps you.

Thomas
 
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I believe that you will find that you cannot specify a single damping coefficient for water. It is much more complex then that, the damping coefficient will be dependent upon the entire dynamical system. Generally this parameter will have to be extracted from your data, not a reference book.
 

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