Solving Differential Equations to Solving 1/y' = (1/y)+(1/x)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation given by 1/y' = (1/y) + (1/x). Participants explore various methods and approaches to tackle the equation, including separation of variables and transformations, while expressing uncertainty about their progress and understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests help in solving the differential equation.
  • Another participant suggests rewriting the equation and expresses uncertainty about their ability to proceed further.
  • A different participant claims to have made more progress but does not share specific steps, inviting others to contribute.
  • One participant mentions using Mathematica to solve the equation but reports no success, questioning their input method.
  • Another participant proposes trying separation of variables but admits to struggling with the continuation.
  • A beginner in differential equations shares their attempt at manipulating the equation but expresses doubt about the correctness of their approach.
  • One participant points out a potential mistake in the previous manipulation of the equation.
  • Another participant suggests exploring a change of variables, such as polar coordinates, to simplify the equation.
  • Several participants inquire about the formatting of mathematical expressions and the tools used for posting them, indicating a desire to contribute more effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and progress, with no consensus on a specific solution or method. Multiple competing approaches are presented, and uncertainty remains about the correctness of the manipulations and methods discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate limitations in their understanding of differential equations, and there are unresolved steps in the mathematical manipulations presented. The discussion reflects a range of familiarity with the topic, from beginners to those with more experience.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students learning differential equations, individuals seeking collaborative problem-solving approaches, and those interested in mathematical reasoning and exploration of different methods for solving equations.

drdolittle
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somebody slove this differential equations

1/y' = (1/y)+(1/x)

thanx in advance
 
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Perhaps looking at it like this:

[tex]\frac{1}{\frac{dy}{dx}} = \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{x}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dx}{dy} = \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{x}[/tex]

[tex]x\frac{dx}{dy} = \frac{x}{y} + 1[/tex]

lol, I'll stop there because I suddenly realize this is beyond me (but it looks in a 'nicer' form, perhaps it will help you)
 
Your solution is just a peanut compared to where i have gone...there is still more to go...anyhow thanks for trying,do try nmore and figure out the solution.

regards
drdolittle
 
Well can you post what you have done please so others can help.
 
I ran this through Mathematica: DSolve[1/(y'[x]) == 1/x + 1/y[x], y[x], x]

And it gave me nothing sorry.

Edit: Although I'm not used to using Mathematica and have yet to get it to solve the simplest thing I think I have inputed it right.
 
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try separation of variables...after that iam struggling to cotinue...
 
Even though I just started learning differential equations, I thought I'd give this a try:

[tex]\frac{dx}{dy}=\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{x}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{xy}{x+y}[/tex]

[tex]x\frac{dy}{dx}+y\frac{dy}{dx}=xy[/tex]

[tex]y+x\frac{dy}{dx}+y\frac{dy}{dx}=y+xy[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d(xy)}{dx}+\frac{1}{2}\frac{d(y^2)}{dx}=y(1+x)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{y}\,d(xy)+\frac{1}{2y}\,d(y^2)=(1+x)\,dx[/tex]

I don't know what to do now, and I don't know if any of this is right, but I hope it'd be of some use.
 
Err I still think this is beyond me but I think you made a mistake on the LHS going from the 4th to the 5th line as:

[tex]\frac{d(xy)}{dx} = x\frac{dy}{dx} + y[/tex]
 
I added a y to the LHS in the 4th step.
 
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What I see when I look at that equation is a family of hyperbolas very much like the simple lens equation. There is a change of variables and a rotation that will reduce this equation to something which may be separable. Unfortunately I do not have the time to do all of the algebra for you.

Explore doing a change of variables, perhaps to polar coordinates, see what you get.
 
  • #11
How do you guys write the nice format of dy/dx and the fractions? Which program do you use, and you post them as photos?

I'll help in solving it, but after knowing how to post a math solution :wink:
 
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iSamer said:
How do you guys write the nice format of dy/dx and the fractions? Which program do you use, and you post them as photos?

I'll help in solving it, but after knowing how to post a math solution :wink:

They use LaTeX. See this thread for more info :smile:.
 

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