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klusener
Dec14-04, 09:01 AM
I truly find it ironic that the initial spread of Christianity and well into the 1900 hundreds, was through violence, what's ironic about this is that Jesus of Nazareth advocated peace and brotherhood, but his word spread around the world due to violence, like the Spanish conquistadors, etc... Why?

klusener
Dec14-04, 09:06 AM
I want to emphasize that i am not undermining his teachings or Christians... this is just a question that has persisted in mind after one of my relatives told me about how one of his ancestors was shot by the British, after he refused to become a Christian...

fomenkoa
Dec14-04, 09:39 AM
I believe that the answer to your question is that it simply IS ironic. I don't believe in any religion for many reasons, yours being one of them.

Anton

selfAdjoint
Dec14-04, 11:24 AM
Buddhism, another religion preaching peace, was spread by violent conquest in Southeast Asia.

russ_watters
Dec14-04, 12:19 PM
Most religions teach peace and most religions have at one time or another been spread via violence. Violence, historically, is simply the most effective way to spread any idea.

kat
Dec14-04, 12:27 PM
I truly find it ironic that the initial spread of Christianity and well into the 1900 hundreds, was through violence, what's ironic about this is that Jesus of Nazareth advocated peace and brotherhood, but his word spread around the world due to violence, like the Spanish conquistadors, etc... Why?
Actually, the initial spread of Christianity was non-violent, it was not until over 300 years later when Constantice co-opted the religion, making it a state religion and enforcing it..did it become violent.

kat
Dec14-04, 12:30 PM
Buddhism, another religion preaching peace, was spread by violent conquest in Southeast Asia. I had never known that, do you have any good links for reference?

Macgyver
Dec14-04, 12:39 PM
I may be wrong (history, especialy religious history is not my strong suit), but i don't think Judaism was ever forcibly spread. They don't try to convert anyone.

Extenuating religions aside, I think Kat had it right the problem occurred when a government embraced a religion. That gave a religious bias to the enforcement of their laws and to any wars they engaged in.

Phobos
Dec16-04, 04:01 PM
Christianity (and probably just about every religion) has spread both peacefully and forcefully. The questions is: "To what extent?"

I may be wrong (history, especialy religious history is not my strong suit), but i don't think Judaism was ever forcibly spread.

Would Israeli settlements (and the military protection thereof) count?

chound
Dec18-04, 04:12 AM
Hinduism wasnt spread forcibly.

selfAdjoint
Dec18-04, 10:36 AM
Hinduism wasnt spread forcibly.

But look at Hindu violence at present in India; murder of Christians, destruction of mosques, and mob violence condoned by the recent national government. Religions are composed of people, and true believing people can always be violent.

plus
Dec18-04, 12:27 PM
Hinduism wasnt spread forcibly.

What is your evidence for this. Hinduism was just a method to keep segregation in place.