Finding the Zeros of f(x)=e^xsin(x) on [0,2π]

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The discussion revolves around finding the zeros of the function f(x) = e^xsin(x) within the interval [0, 2π]. Participants are exploring the implications of the function's components and their contributions to the zeros.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Some participants initially consider the derivative of the function to find critical points, while others clarify that the focus should be on where the function itself equals zero. There is a discussion about the role of e^x in the function and its effect on the zeros.

Discussion Status

Participants have identified that the function is zero at specific points (x=0, x=π, x=2π) and are questioning the significance of the e^x term in relation to the zeros of the function. There is an ongoing exploration of the behavior of the function and its graphical representation.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the terminology used, particularly the term "annulates," and seek clarification on its meaning in this context. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to reconcile different understandings of the problem.

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I'm not quite sure what the question is asking:
"If [tex]f(x)=e^xsin(x)[/tex], then the number of zeros of [tex]f[/tex] on the interval [o,2pi] is?"

I took the derivative of this and found where it was equal to zero:
[tex]f(x)=e^xsin(x)[/tex]
[tex]f'(x)=e^xsin(x)+e^xcos(x)[/tex]
[tex]0=sin(x)+cos(x)[/tex]

I got zero. However, tha answer is 3, any suggestions?
 
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No, it wants where the function is zero, not where the gradient of the curve is zero. Where is sin x zero in that interval?
 
you mean when [tex]0=e^xsin(x)[/tex]?
 
UrbanXrisis said:
I'm not quite sure what the question is asking:
"If [tex]f(x)=e^xsin(x)[/tex], then the number of zeros of [tex]f[/tex] on the interval [o,2pi] is?"

I took the derivative of this and found where it was equal to zero:
[tex]f(x)=e^xsin(x)[/tex]
[tex]f'(x)=e^xsin(x)+e^xcos(x)[/tex]
[tex]0=sin(x)+cos(x)[/tex]

I got zero. However, tha answer is 3, any suggestions?

[tex]e^{x}\sin x=0\Rightarrow \sin x=0[/tex]
Solve the last equation on the interval [itex][0,2\pi][/itex]

Daniel.
 
UrbanXrisis said:
you mean when [tex]0=e^xsin(x)[/tex]?


Yes, yes I do (sorry had to lengthen my post).
 
it's is zero when x=0, x=pi, x=2pi

so it hits three times!

thanks! Also, why doesn't the e^x make a difference?
 
UrbanXrisis said:
it's is zero when x=0, x=pi, x=2pi
so it hits three times!
thanks! Also, why doesn't the e^x make a difference?

It never annulates.Not even for complex arguments.

Daniel.

EDIT:Cause it never annulates,it does not affect the zero-s of the function.Plot the graph of 'f'.U'll see quite an interesting behavior.It has no limit for x->+infty.At minus infty it goes to zero.
 
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so e^x only increases the sinX amplitude, never now far it streatchs, so it doesn't effect how many times sinX crosses the x-axis
 
"Annulates"? I assume you mean "is never equal to 0" but the only definition I can find of "annulate" is "ring shaped".

UrbanXrises: It's not so much that it is 'always increasing'. In order to solve AB= 0, you solve A= 0 and B= 0. Since ex is never 0, The only solutions of exsin(x)= 0 are where sin(x)= 0.
 
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