Has Relativity Mathematically Failed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the claim that relativity has mathematically failed, as suggested by a link shared by a participant. The scope includes mathematical reasoning, conceptual challenges to established physics, and the potential for debunking claims against relativity.

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  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the validity of the claim regarding relativity's failure and seeks clarification from others.
  • Another participant asserts that the claim is not true without providing further details.
  • A participant suggests that convincing the individual behind the claim would require extensive teaching in mathematics and physics, implying a belief that the individual is unlikely to change their opinion.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the willingness of the claim's proponent to engage in learning or to accept corrections.
  • There is a shared sentiment that the claim and the associated website are not credible, with one participant humorously requesting compensation for time spent reading the content.
  • Another participant reinforces the idea that the claim is nonsense and suggests a light-hearted approach to the situation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree with the claim that relativity has mathematically failed, with multiple voices expressing skepticism about the validity of the original assertion. However, there is no consensus on how to effectively address or debunk the claim.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of opinions on the credibility of the claim and the motivations of the individual behind it, but lacks detailed mathematical or technical analysis of the claim itself.

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I found this link that says it has. My math is not strong enough to prove it wrong. Could someone tell me if this is true?

http://members.aol.com/crebigsol/awards.htm :rolleyes:
 
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't'aint true.
 
So all you have to do to convince the person offering the award is to convince him that his is wrong. Do to that you would have to teach him mathematics and physics from the ground up. Chances are that he is not only not interested in learning, but incapable as well. He would not change his opinion if you flew a length contracted Titanic through his house.

This sounds like a topic for Debunking.
 
Maybe I'm just a hopeless optimist, but I like to think they're capable of learning -- they're just too stubborn.
 
Hurkyl said:
Maybe I'm just a hopeless optimist, but I like to think they're capable of learning -- they're just too stubborn.

Yes, you are. If it means losing $50,000, I imagine nothing will change his mind. That seems to be the problem with all these awards: It's possible to set them up so they're almost impossible to prove.

That website, btw, was put up in 1996. I'm guessing nobody was able to prove him wrong, at least not to his satisfaction.
 
Well I'd like my 15 minutes that I wasted reading the crap hosted on that site back please
 
No doubt about it - this is nonsense.

One fifteen minute credit for each reader is available in the lobby. :biggrin:
 

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