Is 1 Considered a Prime Number?

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The discussion centers around whether the number 1 is considered a prime number. Participants explore definitions of prime numbers, historical perspectives, and implications for mathematical conventions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the definition of a prime number requires it to have proper divisors, which would exclude 1.
  • Others state that the current convention is that 1 is not a prime number, citing clarity in mathematical definitions.
  • A participant mentions that historically, 1 was considered a prime number, but this view has changed for reasons related to unique prime decomposition.
  • One participant emphasizes that allowing 1 to be prime would violate the fundamental theorem of arithmetic, which relies on unique prime factorization.
  • Another participant suggests that the definition of primeness is a matter of convention and can vary.
  • Historical references are made to the Sieve of Eratosthenes, with the argument that if 1 were prime, the method would not function correctly.
  • There is a request for evidence of prominent mathematicians who have defined 1 as a prime, with references to Euclid's exclusion of 1 from his definitions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the status of 1 as a prime number, with no consensus reached. Some support the idea that 1 is not prime based on current conventions, while others argue for its historical consideration as prime.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying definitions and conventions in mathematics, highlighting the complexity and historical evolution of the concept of prime numbers.

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is "1" considered as a PRIME NUMBER?
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the4thcafeavenue said:
is "1" considered as a PRIME NUMBER?
thanks :-D

It depends on whether the definition of a "prime number" stipulates the syntagma "proper divisors".If so,1 is not a prime number,if not,then it is a prime number.

Daniel.
 
as long as i know, the definition for prime number is a natural number that is bigger than one and can be divided by only two numbers - itself and one. for example, the number seven is a prime number. it is natural, bigger than 1 and can be divided by itself (7) and one.
 
dextercioby said:
It depends on whether the definition of a "prime number" stipulates the syntagma "proper divisors".If so,1 is not a prime number,if not,then it is a prime number.

Daniel.


Apparently it doesn't,but 1 is still not a prime number.Maybe you should have checked this page first?? :-p
1 is not a prime number
However,the definition is not unique:http://odin.mdacc.tmc.edu/~krc/numbers/prime.html There's something weird with this page.According to their definition,1 should be a prime,but in the next line,when they give examples,1 is missing... :confused:
A nice discussion is here:
http://www.mazes.com/primes/one.html
Daniel.
 
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thanks guyz :-D
 
The *current* definition is that 1, as it is a unit (divides 1) is not a prime. This the is current convention. At one point it was considered to be a prime, but then for reasons that I suggest come from studying different systems of arithmetic it came to be easier and clearer for the convention to be that 1 is not prime. These other systesms are properly called rings, and in soem rings there are many other numbers that divide 1, and it was necessary to carefully distinhuish between units and non-units especially in decompositions into primes.
 
One is not a prime number because it would violate unique prime decomposition. That is 1X1= 1x1x1=1,etc.

But with a prime it only divides a given integer a unique number of times. Thus 54 = (3^3)(2). There is no way that 2 or 3 could divide it a different number of times!

1 AS A PRIME WOULD VIOLATE THE FUNDAMENTAL THEOREM OF ARITHMETIC.

In fact what had been quoted above, even if somewhat ambigious, tells you as much if you read the whole thing: http://odin.mdacc.tmc.edu/~krc/numbers/prime.html
 
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I think you have it backwards. The wording of the fundamental theorem is based upon the convention that 1 is not a prime. "primeness" as with any other definition of mathematics is purely a convention.
 
Well one of the first organized efforts on primes was the Sieve of Eratosthenes, who lived 276BC-194BC; and the method is to write out a successive list of integers beginning with the first prime 2, and when we reach the p prime remaining, to knock out every pth number in the list.

HOWEVER, if one were a prime, we would knock out every number...So the method would not work!
 
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I would love to know where and when any prominent mathematician has ever defined 1 as a prime. Apparently Euclid not consider 1 as a prime, in fact, he excluded it from his definition of a number. (See reference below.)

There is a website where the author says, I understand that a hundred years or so ago, some books actually said that one was a prime number. I've never seen such a book, but I'd love to see it. http://www.mazes.com/primes/one.html
 
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