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sin^8(x) + cos^8(x) = 97 / 128
 
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The only way I can think off the top of my head is say it is equivalent to:

[tex]128 \left[ \sin^8x + \left(1 - \sin^2x \right)^4 \right] - 97 = 0[/tex]

And really hope it is solvable.
 
I'd just keep pluggin in trig identities until you reduce things either all to single powers or maybe a quadratic equation of cosines. It shouldn't be too hard, you can use

2cos^2(x) = 1+cos(2x)
2sin^2(x) = 1 - cos(2x)
 
It would be hard to prove because it's not true.

Edit: Sorry. I assumed you meant it as being true for all x. Do you it is to be solved for x?
 
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It can be reduced to two biquadratic equations,which are solvable.
[tex]1=[(\sin^{2}x+\cos^{2}x)^{2}]^{2}=(\sin^{4}x+\cos^{4}x+2\sin^{2}x\cos^{2}x)^{2}[/tex]
[tex]=\sin^{8}x+\cos^{8}x+4\sin^{4}x \cos^{4}x+2\sin^{4}x \cos^{4}x+4\sin^{2}x \cos^{2}x (\cos^{4}x+\sin^{4}x)[/tex] (1)

From (1) it follows:
[tex]1=\sin^{8}x+\cos^{8}x+6\sin^{4}x \cos^{4}x+4\sin^{2}x\cos^{2}x[(\sin^{2}x+\cos^{2}x)^{2}-2\sin^{2}x\cos^{2}x][/tex]
[tex]=\sin^{8}x+\cos^{8}x-2\sin^{4}x \cos^{4}x+4\sin^{2}x\cos^{2}x[/tex] (2)

From (2) it follows:
[tex]\sin^{8}x+\cos^{8}x=1+2\sin^{4}x\cos^{4}x-4\sin^{2}x\cos^{2}x[/tex] (3)

I use:
[tex]\sin 2x=2\sin x\cos x[/tex](4)
to write
[tex]+2\sin^{4}x\cos^{4}x=+\frac{1}{8}(\sin 2x)^{4}[/tex] (5)
[tex]-4\sin^{2}x\cos^{2}x=-(\sin 2x)^{2}[/tex] (6)

Therefore,combining (5),(6) and (3),one gets:
[tex]\sin^{8}x+\cos^{8}x=1+\frac{1}{8}(\sin 2x)^{4}-(\sin 2x)^{2}[/tex] (7)

The initial equation
[tex]\sin^{8}x+\cos^{8}x=\frac{97}{128}[/tex] (8)
,using (7),becomes
[tex]1+\frac{1}{8}(\sin 2x)^{4}-(\sin 2x)^{2}=\frac{97}{128}[/tex] (9)
,which can be put in the form
[tex]\frac{1}{8}}(\sin 2x)^{4}-(\sin 2x)^{2}+\frac{31}{128}=0[/tex] (10)

Multiplying (10) by [itex]+8[/itex] and making the obvious substitution
[tex](\sin 2x)\rightarrow y[/tex] (11)
,the equation (8) is brought to the canonical form of an biquadratic algebraic eq. in the variable "y":
[tex]y^{4}-8y^{2}+\frac{31}{16}=0[/tex](12)
We make the substitution:[itex]y^{2}\rightarrow z[/itex] (13)
,and the eq.(12) becomes
[tex]z^{2}-8z+\frac{31}{16}=0[/tex] (14)
,with the solutions
[tex]z_{1}=4+\frac{\sqrt{225}}{4}=\frac{1}{4}[/tex] (15)
[tex]z_{2}=4-\frac{\sqrt{225}}{4}= \frac{31}{4}[/tex](16)

Comparing (11),(13) and (16),we conclude that [itex]z_{2}[/itex] is not a viable solution.
To be continued.
 
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From (13) and (15),we obtain:
[tex]y^{2}=+\frac{1}{4}[/tex] (17)
,with the solutions:
[tex]y_{1}=-\frac{1}{2}[/tex] (18)
[tex]y_{2}=+\frac{1}{2}[/tex] (19)

It can be easily checked that both solutions (18) and (19) are found in the interval (-1,+1),so they provide viable solutions to the problem.
Putting together (18),(19) and (11),we found two transcendental equations
[tex]\sin 2x=-\frac{1}{2}[/tex] (20)
[tex]\sin 2x=+\frac{1}{2}[/tex] (21)

We solve these eq.in the interval [itex](-\frac{\pi}{2},+\frac{\pi}{2})[/itex](for the 'sine' argument,which is 2x).In this case,we can apply the inverse function 'arcsine' to find
[tex]x_{1}=\frac{1}{2}\arcsin(-\frac{1}{2})=-\frac{\pi}{12}[/tex] (22)
[tex]x_{2}=\frac{1}{2}\arcsin(+\frac{1}{2})=+\frac{\pi}{12}[/tex] (23)

Daniel.

EDIT:Thank you,Krab,i wouldn't have seen it,years after...
 
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Looks like it's [itex]\pi/12[/itex]
 
krab said:
Looks like it's [itex]\pi/12[/itex]

Let's take [itex]\pi\sim 3.14[/itex]
[tex]\sin\frac{\pi}{12}\sim 0.25869[/tex]

[tex]\sin^{8}\frac{\pi}{12}\sim 2\cdot 10^{-5}[/tex](1)

[tex]\cos\frac{\pi}{12}\sim 0.96596[/tex]

[tex]\cos^{8}\frac{\pi}{12}\sim 75800\cdot 10^{-5}[/tex] (2)

Add (1) and (2) and get:
[tex]\sin^{8}\frac{\pi}{12}+\cos^{8}\frac{\pi}{12}\sim 75802\cdot 10^{-5} \sim\frac{97}{128}[/tex] (3)


Daniel.
 
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Let s = sin^2 x, c = cos^2 x be a solution to the equation.

As Zurtex Started, this equation is a quartic in s:

97/128 = s^4 + (1-s)^4

The symmetry suggests making the substitution s = t + 1/2

Note that t is in the range -1/2 <= t <= 1/2, if we assume to look for real solutions.

97/128 = (1/2 + t)^4 + (1/2 - t)^4
= 2t^4 + 3t^2 + 1/8 = 2t^4 + 3t^2 + 16/128

so

2t^4 + 3t^2 - 81/128 = 0

yielding the solution:

t^2 = -3/4 +/- (1/4) sqrt(9 + 81/16)
= -3/4 +/- (1/4) sqrt(225/16)
= -3/4 +/- (1/4) (15/4)
= -12/16 +/- 15/16
= (-12 +/- 15) / 16

t^2 = -27 / 16 or 3 / 16

However, we know that 0 <= t^2 <= 9/4, so we have the single solution:

t^2 = 3/16

so

t = sqrt(3) / 4

s = t + 1/2 = (2 + sqrt(3)) / 4

Now, s = sin^2 x, so we have:

sin x = (1/2) sqrt(2 + sqrt(3))

Where both square roots could be either positive or negative.



For some reason, I feel that knowing a lot of solutions to the original equation should help me -- if x is a solution, then so is -x, ix, and 90 - x, from which you can make lots more solutions -- but I couldn't get such an approach to help.
 
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dextercioby said:
[tex]\sin^{8}\frac{\pi}{12}+\cos^{8}\frac{\pi}{12}\sim 75802\cdot 10^{-5} \neq 1[/tex] (3)
But it's not meant to be 1; it's meant to be 97/128, which it is.

BTW, I found your error. In your equation 1, your last 2 should be a 4. Apart from this, the technique is really nice.
 
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Hurkyl,i found two solutions in the reals,in the interval [itex](-\frac{\pi}{4},+\frac{\pi}{4})[/itex],because i found it easier to use 'arcsin'.
Solving the eq.
[tex]\sin 2x=\pm \frac{1}{2}[/tex]
on the whole real exis would yield all real solutions to the equation.

If u want to inlcude complex solutions as well,u should use not circular,but hyperbolic trigonometry (identities and stuff).

Daniel.
 
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The solutions have already been given, but perhaps the most "direct" way to do this would be like so :


Let [itex]c = \cos \theta[/itex], [itex]s = \sin \theta[/itex], [itex]S = \sin 2\theta[/itex]

[tex]s^8 + c^8 = 97/128[/tex]

[tex](c^4 + s^4)^2 - 2(c^2s^2)^2 = \frac {97}{128}[/tex]

[tex]((c^2 + s^2)^2 - 2c^2s^2)^2 - 2(\frac{1}{4}S^2)^2 = \frac {97}{128}[/tex]

[tex](1 - \frac{1}{2}S^2)^2 - 2(\frac{1}{4}S^2)^2 = \frac {97}{128}[/tex]

[tex](1 - \frac{1}{2}S^2)^2 - \frac{1}{8}S^4 = \frac {97}{128}[/tex]

Expanding the LHS, rearranging and simplifying,

[tex]\frac{1}{8}S^4 - S^2 + \frac{31}{128} = 0[/tex]

which is a quadratic equation in S^2. Solving that will give the required general solution in the reals :

[tex]\theta = n\pi (+/-) \frac{\pi}{12}[/tex] or [tex]n\pi (+/-) \frac{5\pi}{12}[/tex]
 
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oh boy, anyone in high school taking the amc 12 in a few weeks?
 

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