Very simple polar covalent bond questions

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The discussion revolves around the nature of polar covalent bonds, specifically addressing the conditions under which they occur, examples of such bonds, and the relative polarity of different bonds. Participants explore concepts related to electronegativity and molecular structure, with a focus on chemistry.

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  • Some participants assert that polar covalent bonds occur when one atom is more electronegative than another, while others clarify that a significant difference in electronegativity may lead to ionic bonds instead.
  • There is a discussion about specific examples of polar covalent bonds, with C-H being mentioned as a polar covalent bond but not very polar compared to others like H-F.
  • One participant explains that water is a classic example of a polar covalent bond due to the electronegativity of oxygen compared to hydrogen.
  • Another participant introduces acetone as an example of a compound with polar covalent bonds, highlighting the polar C=O group.
  • It is noted that any bond between dissimilar atoms is polar, but the C-H bond has a low polarity due to the small difference in electronegativity and the size of the atoms involved.
  • Some participants mention the implications of bond polarity in organic reactions, referencing +R and +I effects.

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Participants express varying views on the definition and examples of polar covalent bonds, with no consensus reached on the extent of polarity in specific bonds like C-H. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nuances of bond polarity and its implications.

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Participants reference different examples and conditions under which bonds are considered polar, indicating a reliance on definitions of electronegativity and molecular structure that may not be universally agreed upon.

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polar covalent bonds occur because one atom is much more electronegative than the other right?

so..an example of a polar covalent bond is C-H ?
 
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not necessarily much more... if the differnce in electronegativity is too high the bond is likely ionic but within covalent bonds polar covalent bonds is basically "unfair sharing" while in ionic bonds there's no sharing. a c-h bond is polar covalent but not that polar. but a H-F bond is prolly as polar you can get within covalent bonds.
 
This should be under chemistry, but the answer to your first question is yes, the stronger the electronegative force, the more likely the atom is to form a bond, that is, it is more reactive. Water is polar covalent, Oxygen needing only 2 electrons to stabilize its outer shell, so it takes 2 electrons from 2 hydrogen atoms leaving just 2 protons (though it's covalent not ionic so they are still sharing electrons)

C-H would not react like so. [tex]C-H_4[/tex] is what would happen, with Carbon acting like a metal (carbon is a metalloid) and Hydrogen acting as a gas. Carbon has 6 protons so its nucleus charge is 6+ a greater charge than Hydrogen 1+, so it is more electronegative. But in this case it still needs 4 electrons to fill its outer shell. This is because a full 2nd energy level ([tex]2s^2 2p^6[/tex]) has 8 electrons. That is when 8 are in its second energy level, it is stable and inert. Carbon [tex]2s^22p^2[/tex] only has 4 (2+2, the exponent says how many electrons are in that shell) so it needs 4 more, therefore it takes 4 from hydrogen making a covalent molecule. Because it is tetrahedronal it will not be as polar as water.
So in order to make carbon tetrahydride you would need 4 times as much hydrogen then carbon. :biggrin:
 
Hello, acetone ([itex]\displaystyle (H_3C)_2-C=O[/itex]) is a good example for polar covalent bonds. In this compound, a polar C=O group is present, in which there are sufficiently different electronegativities of the participating atoms. As other friends said, C-H bond is not very polar, so alkanes are the least polar groups, but acetone is much more polar than alkanes.
 
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Any bond between two dissimilar atoms is polar.

The greater the difference in electronegativity and the larger the atoms, the greater is the polarity (or dipole moment). The electronegativity difference between C and H is nearly the smallest it can be among any pair. Also, both atoms are tiny. So, in fact, such a bond has a fairly low polarity.

Still, there is some non-negligible polarity in this bond, which plays an important role in organic reactions via what are known as +R and +I effects.
 

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