Calculating Angular Velocity and Retarding Couple in Rotational Kinematics

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The discussion revolves around a problem in rotational kinematics involving a uniform rod and a flywheel. Participants are exploring concepts related to angular velocity, moment of inertia, angular acceleration, and the concept of a retarding couple.

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy to relate energy to angular displacement. There are questions about the implications of the length of thread pulled off the axle and its effect on calculations. The concept of a couple is also explored, with participants clarifying its definition and relationship to torque.

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Some participants have made progress in understanding the first part of the problem, while others express confusion regarding the second part, particularly about the application of equations and the role of the length of the thread. Guidance has been offered, but multiple interpretations and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

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1. A uniform rod of length 3m is suspended at one end so that it can move about an axis perpendicular to its length. The moment of inertia about the end is 6kgm^2 and the mass of the rod is 2kg. If the rod is initially horizontal and then released, find the angular velocity of the rod when
i) it is inclined at 30 degrees to the horizontal,
ii) reaches the vertical.

oh no! I don't have a clue of how to figure out this problem...

2.) A flywheel with an axis 1.0m in diameter is mounted in frictionless bearings set in motion by applying a steadsy tension of 2N to a thin thread wound tightly round the axle. The moment of inertia of the system about its axis of rotation is 5.0 x10^-4 kgm^2. Calculate
i) the angular acceleration of the flywheel when 1m of thread has been pulled off the axle,
ii) the constant retarding couple which must then be applied to bring the flywheel to rest in one complete turn, the tension in the thread having been completely removed.

For i), I set: Tr = I alpha, where T is the tension, and r is the radius of axis
2 x 0.5 x 10^-2 = 5 x10^-4 alpha
angular acceleration = 20 rad/s^2
ummm...it is correct, but I haven't considered the length of thread being "1m", so what should I do if 2m of thread has been pulled off the axle. Is the answer the same?

For ii), I know that for calculating couple, the equation is force x distance, i.e. 2 x 0.5 x10^-2...but it just doesn't make sense in this question
 
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1: use conservation of energy... can you see how energy related to the angle[tex]\theta[/tex] ?
2:a
Clari said:
but I haven't considered the length of thread being "1m"
if you didn't consider the length 1m, where is your o.5 came from :confused:
2:b what the hell is COUPLE?
 
If I remember right, a couple or "moment couple"... refers to forces that occur in opposing pairs. Any moment (ie torque) can be replaced by a pair of opposing forces, equal in magnitude, and opposite in direction. Obviously the forces lie in the plane of rotation, each equidistant from (and on opposite sides of) the point about which the torque is being applied. Vice versa...the replacement can happen in reverse too (any couple can be represented by the corresponding moment) => They are interchangeable.
 
Vincent, I can solve 1.) now...Thank you for your help...well, I really haven't consider the 1m of thread, for 0.5 x 10^-2, it is the flywheel axis diameter


For no.2, I am still stuck in it...>_< I try to use the equation like w^2 = 2as...but I guess angular acceleration stays the same...so I don't need to calculate it again...
 

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