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The discussion centers around the effectiveness of a petition to replace Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense, initiated by John Kerry. Participants explore the implications of such a petition, the political context, and the potential outcomes of Rumsfeld's tenure in office.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of the petition, noting that prominent figures like John McCain and Chuck Hagel have failed to remove Rumsfeld despite their lack of confidence in him.
  • There is a question about whether Rumsfeld is expected to serve the entirety of the second term, with some arguing that his resignation would depend on the political climate and potential scandals.
  • One participant suggests that petitions are futile and advocates for extreme measures, while others challenge the logic of such actions by questioning the potential replacement's qualifications.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of removing Rumsfeld, suggesting that a different appointment might not lead to better outcomes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the effectiveness of the petition and the potential consequences of Rumsfeld's removal. There is no consensus on the best course of action or the likelihood of change resulting from the petition.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about political power dynamics and the motivations behind Rumsfeld's potential resignation, which remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in political activism, government accountability, and discussions surrounding military leadership may find this thread relevant.

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If people like John McCain and Chuck Hagel (who've both expressed no confidence in Rumsfeld as Sec. of Def.) can't get Rumsfeld out of there, I don't know what on Earth a petition started by John Kerry would do. Incase you haven't noticed, not having the will of the people at their back has never stopped the Bush administration before.
 
Is Rumsfeld supposed to stay for the whole second term ?
 
These petitions won't work, just shoot him.
 
Stanley_Smith said:
Is Rumsfeld supposed to stay for the whole second term ?
He's not "supposed" to do anything in a constitutional sense. He can resign if he wants to, and he will resign if Bush wants him to, but there is no reason he can't/wouldn't want to stay for the whole second term unless there's a huge scandal involving him.

But considering all the crap he's already done, he'd pretty much have to be caught electrocuting someone's genetalia while jacking off to be forced to resign.
 
mattmns said:
These petitions won't work, just shoot him.
What good would that do? What if someone like Wolfowitz was appointed to replace Rumsfeld? Killing Rumsfeld wouldn't mean you get a Sec. of Def. that's any better than him, just one with a different name.
 
mattmns said:
These petitions won't work, just shoot him.

Him and whole White House administration for treason ! :mad:
 

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