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Ivan Seeking
Sep20-03, 04:52 AM
In light of recent events, I thought it appropriate to display a little of the filtering that I do when considering UFO claims. This is a good example of a report that I can completely reject at a glance. This does not mean that I reject this with absolute certainty, but unless something else comes along to ignite my interest in this story, for me, it goes in the debunked file.

http://www.rense.com/general41/flying.htm

I find these pictures unconvincing. One method that can be used to gauge relative distance in a photograph is to look at the contrast between the light and dark areas of an object, and compare this to other objects in the picture that are at a known distance. The closer something is to the camera [or your eye], the greater the contrast between light and dark areas. As an object approaches infinite distance, the contrast goes to zero and the object appears to be the same color as the horizon.

In these pictures, we see significantly greater contrast between the light and dark regions of the "saucer" as opposed to those of the planes. This tells me that this is a small object very close to the camera.

Jonathan
Sep20-03, 05:30 PM
I see, so the aliens are tiny! No wonder it's so hard to get good evidence! [:))]

Ivan Seeking
Sep20-03, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Jonathan
I see, so the aliens are tiny! No wonder it's so hard to get good evidence! [:))]

Jonathan this is really a funny point. How big would they have to be?
How big must be an ET? In spite of all the science fiction that I read and watched, I never seriously thought about it. [:D] [:D] [:D]

FZ+
Sep20-03, 06:02 PM
Wonder how long it will be before we have a site proporting to have found little flying saucers in Tunneling Electron Microscope images.

Ivan Seeking
Sep20-03, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by FZ+
Wonder how long it will be before we have a site proporting to have found little flying saucers in Tunneling Electron Microscope images.

Actually, physicists have already seriously considered the existence of these little demons; Maxwell! [:D]

zoobyshoe
Sep20-03, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Actually, physicists have already seriously considered the existence of these little demons; Maxwell! [:D]
Little black dots.

enigma
Sep22-03, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Jonathan this is really a funny point. How big would they have to be?
How big must be an ET? In spite of all the science fiction that I read and watched, I never seriously thought about it. [:D] [:D] [:D]

Better watch out or the microscopic space fleet will come and vaporise us all... unless it gets eaten by a dog first.

[/hitchhikers guide]

Ivan Seeking
Sep24-03, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by enigma
Better watch out or the microscopic space fleet will come and vaporise us all... unless it gets eaten by a dog first.

[/hitchhikers guide]

This only delays the attack for a day or two.

PsYcHo_FiSh
Sep25-03, 09:17 PM
Hehe

Jonathan
Oct4-03, 02:41 AM
OH! It's so clear now! Anal-probing is actually a microscopic form of space exploration! (Just like how the Galileo spacecraft descended into Jupider's atmosphere!)

Ivan Seeking
Oct20-03, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Jonathan
I see, so the aliens are tiny! No wonder it's so hard to get good evidence! [:))]

Aliens have been documented in hundreds of types and sizes, from 3 inches up...
http://www.abduct.com/question/q186.htm

Well Jonathan, it looks like you were right! [:D]

zoobyshoe
Oct20-03, 09:19 PM
This has been documented. Cool. Let's see the documents.

Ivan Seeking
Oct20-03, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
This has been documented. Cool. Let's see the documents.

I assume they mean affidavits. These do exist for many cases, but the 3 inch guys are news to me. [:D]

Jonathan
Oct21-03, 12:13 AM
Me too! Who'd a thunk it? If someone did encounter 3 inch aliens, why would one not catch them?