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John Baez
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<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>Also available at http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week210.html\n\nJanuary 25, 2005\nThis Week\'s Finds in Mathematical Physics - Week 210\nJohn Baez\n\nAs you\'ve probably heard, the Huygens probe has successfully landed\non Saturn\'s moon Titan and is sending back pictures:\n\n1) Huygens Probe Descent\nhttp://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/events/huygensDescent/index.cfm\n\nTitan averages a chilly -180 degrees Celsius, and its smoggy orange\natmosphere is thicker than the Earth\'s, mostly nitrogen but 6 percent\nmethane, together with substantial traces of all sorts of other\nhydrocarbons. The orange color may come from "tholins": polymers made\nby irradiating a mix of nitrogen and methane. Some other icy moons in\nthe outer solar system are covered with this goop, but Titan is the\nonly moon in the Solar System to have a substantial atmosphere. It\neven has clouds.\n\nAs the Huygens probe parachuted to the surface, it photographed\nwhat look like twisty riverbeds flowing into a large lake! People\nhave long suspected that Titan has lakes of made of methane and/or\nethane, but now we may be seeing them. And when Huygens landed, its\nsensors reported that it broke through a crusty surface and sunk\nabout 20 centimeters into something mushy: probably methane mud!\n\nThe first color photo of the surface looks disappointingly like Mars\nat first sight. But, the surface is pumpkin-colored due to tholins\nor something, not rust red. The sky is orange too! The "rocks" could\nbe water ice. And they\'ve detected hints of volcanos that spew molten\nwater and ammonia! So, it\'s a strange new world.\n\nBack here on Earth, there was a conference in December in honor of\nLarry Breen\'s 60th birthday:\n\n2) Arithmetic, Geometry and Topology: Conference on occasion of Larry\nBreen\'s sixtieth birthday, http://www-math.univ-paris13.fr/~lb2004/\n\nIt was in Paris. This was my first visit to that city, but luckily\nI got to stay there an extra week after the conference, so I could focus\non the math while it was going on.\n\nBut I can\'t resist a digression! Paris won my heart, despite my suspicions\nthat it had somehow been hyped all along. First of all, it\'s beautiful.\nSecond, it\'s nice to be someplace where people take simple foods like\nbread, cheese, fruits and vegetables really seriously, and don\'t settle\nfor the tasteless crud we so often eat in the US.\n\nNone of this came as a surprise, of course. What surprised is that I\'ve\nnever seen a city with so many bookstores - and good ones, too! They\'re\nclustered thick near the Sorbonne, but the Latin Quarter is dotted with\nthem, and there are even lots along the Boulevard St-Germain, which is the\nbiggest most fashionable shopping street. I don\'t think there\'s any place\nin the English speaking world with so many bookstores. Not London, not\nNew York... Cambridge Massachusetts used to have lots near Harvard Square,\nback when I was a grad student, but the high rents have long since squeezed\nthem out, replacing bohemian diversity with clothing shops for boring rich\npeople, like Abercrombie and Fitch. Somehow in Paris fancy clothing and\nbooks coexist.\n\nUmm, but what about the conference?\n\nWell, Breen\'s work is mainly on algebraic geometry a la Grothendieck, with\na strong emphasis on category theory. Beautiful stuff, and lately it\'s\nit\'s begun to find applications to string theory - especially his work on\ngerbes. People at his conference spoke on all sorts of topics, most of\nwhich I didn\'t understand very well - some heavy-duty number theory,\nfor example. I understood a few well enough to really enjoy them, like\nMike Hopkins\' talk on derived algebraic geometry, Clemens Berger\'s talk on\ngeometric Reedy categories, and Ieke Moerdijk\'s talk on the homotopy theory\nof operads. But I won\'t try to explain these - I want to explain what a\n"gerbe" is, so I have my work cut out for me.\n\nOne way to get going on the idea of gauge theory is to start with\nelectromagnetism, where the concept of "phase" turns out to play a\ncrucial role. If you move a charged particle through an electromagnetic\nfield, its wavefunction gets multiplied by a unit complex number, or\n"phase" - and it turns out, rather wonderfully, that all effects of\nelectricity and magnetism on charged particles is due to this!\n\nHowever, phases are funny. You can\'t actually measure the phase of\na charged particle - at least, there\'s no such thing as a "phasometer"\nwhere you stick in a particle and the dial on the meter points to\na unit complex number. Of course a unit complex number is just a fancy\nname for a point on the circle, and a dial is precisely the right shape\nfor that... but you just can\'t build this machine.\n\nInstead, you can only measure the *change* in phase of a particle as\nit goes around a loop. Or, equivalently, the *difference* in phases\nwhen a particle takes two different paths from here to there. See,\nin quantum mechanics you can play tricks like the "double slit experiment",\nwhere you coax a particle\'s wavefunction to smear out and take two routes\nfrom here to there... and then when it arrives, it interferes with itself,\nand if you\'re smart you can see by these interference effects what the\nrelative phase of the two paths is.\n\nPretty weird, eh? I\'m so used to this that it seems completely normal to\nme, but I should admit that this way of understanding the electromagnetic\nfield came fairly late. Weyl had a hint of it in 1918 when he invented\nthe term "gauge theory" in his quest to unify electromagnetism and gravity,\nbut he was mixed up in some crucial ways that only got sorted out quite\na bit later. For more details, try O\'Raiferteagh\'s book "The Dawning of\nGauge Theory", which I discussed in "week116".\n\nAnyway, the concept of relative phase, or difference in phase, is nicely\ncaptured by the concept of a "torsor". A unit complex number is a point\non the unit circle in the complex plane. This circle is a group since\nwe can multiply unit complex numbers and get unit complex numbers back.\nThis group is called U(1). Like a dial, U(1) has standard names for\nall the points on it - and it has one god-given special point, the\nidentity element, namely the number 1.\n\nA "U(1) torsor" is a lot like U(1), but subtly different. It\'s a circle\nwhere the points aren\'t given these standard names... but where you can\nstill tell measure angles, and tell the difference between clockwise and\ncounterclockwise.\n\nYou can\'t get an element of U(1) from *one* point on a U(1) torsor. But,\nif you have *two* points on a U(1) torsor, you can say how much rotation\nit takes to get from one to the other, and this give an element of U(1).\nIn other words, you can describe the "difference in phase" between these\ntwo points.\n\nFor more on torsors, try this:\n\n3) John Baez, Torsors made easy, http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/torsors.html\n\nAnyway, the real idea behind electromagnetism is that sitting over\neach point in spacetime is a U(1) torsor. If a particle is sitting at\nsome point in spacetime, its phase is not really a numbers: it\'s an\nelement of the U(1) torsor sitting over that point! To get a *number*,\nwe have to carry the particle around a loop! Its phase will change when\nwe do this, so we get *two* points in a U(1) torsor, and their difference\nis an element of U(1).\n\nSo while it sounds far-out, the key mathematical structure in electromagnetism\nis a bunch of U(1) torsors, one over each point in spacetime. This is called\na "principal U(1) bundle" or sometimes just a "U(1) bundle" for short.\n\nIf we wanted to describe some force other than electromagnetism, we could\ntake this whole setup and replace U(1) with some other group. In fact,\nthis idea works great: it\'s the main idea behind gauge theories, which do\nan excellent job of describing all the forces in nature.\n\nTo set up a gauge theory, the first thing you need to do is pick a\ngroup G and pick a "principal G-bundle" over spacetime. Spacetime\nwill be some manifold X. A principal G-bundle over X is gadget that\nassigns a G-torsor to each point of X. A G-torsor is a space where if\nyou pick two points in it, you get an element of G which describes their\n"difference".\n\nI\'m being fairly sloppy here, so don\'t take these as precise definitions!\nI give a precise definition of a G-torsor in the above webpage, and any\ndecent book on differential geometry will give you a definition of\nprincipal G-bundles. However, only rather highbrow books define principal\nG-bundles with the help of G-torsors... which is sad, because it\'s not\nthat hard, and rather enlightening.\n\nAnyway, in gauge theory the forces of nature are described by "connections"\non principal G-bundles. Let\'s say we have a principal G-bundle P which\nassigns to each point x of our manifold a G-torsor P(x). Then a\n"connection" on P is a gadget that says how any path from x to y gives a\nmap from P(x) to P(y). If G is U(1), for example, this gadget says how the\nphase of a charged particle changes as we move it along any path from x to y.\n\nNow suppose we have a loop that starts and ends at x. Then our connection\ngives a map from P(x) to itself. If we start with a point in P(x), and\napply this map, we get another point in P(x). Since P(x) is a G-torsor,\nthese two points determine an element of G. This is how we get group\nelements from loops in gauge theory!\n\nNow let me sketch how gerbes enter the game. First I\'ll do the case where\nthe group G is abelian, for example U(1). It\'s the nonabelian gerbes that\nreally interest me... but the abelian case is a lot easier. The reason\nis that when G is abelian, the group element we get in the previous\nparagraph doesn\'t depend on the choice of a point of P(x).\n\nGerbes show up when we try to invent a kind of "higher gauge theory"\nthat describes how not just point particles but 1-dimensional objects\ntransform when you move them around. For example, the strings in string\ntheory, or the loops in loop quantum gravity.\n\nThis leads to a mind-boggling self-referential twist, which is just the\nkind of thing I love:\n\nAs we\'ve seen, a connection describes how a point particle transforms when\nyou carry it along a path:\n\nf\nx------------&gt;-----y a path f from the point x to the point y:\nwe write this as f: x -&gt; y\n\n\nNow we need a gadget that\'ll describe how a *path* transforms when you\ncarry it along a PATH OF PATHS:\n\nf\n-----------&gt;-----\n/ || \\\nx ||F y a path-of-paths F from the path f to the path g:\n\\ \\/ / we write this as F: f =&gt; g\n-----------&gt;-----\ng\n\nTo do this, we need to boost our level of thinking a notch, working not\nwith "G-torsors" and "principal G-bundles" but instead with "G-2-torsors"\nand "G-gerbes".\n\nHere\'s how it goes:\n\nWe start by picking an abelian group G and a manifold X.\n\nThen we pick a "G-gerbe" over M, say P.\n\nWhat\'s that? It\'s a thing that assigns to each point x of X a "G-2-torsor",\nsay P(x).\n\nWhat\'s that? Well, it\'s a thing where if you pick two points in it, you\nget a G-TORSOR describing their difference!\n\nGet it? This is the beginning of a story that goes on forever:\n\nTwo points in a G-torsor determine an element of G;\ntwo points in a G-2-torsor determine a G-torsor;\ntwo points in a G-3-torsor determine a G-2-torsor;\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">&nbsp;&nbsp;View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>Also available at http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week210.html

January 25, 2005
This Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics - Week 210
John Baez

As you've probably heard, the Huygens probe has successfully landed
on Saturn's moon Titan and is sending back pictures:

1) Huygens Probe Descent
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/events/huygensDescent/index.cfm

Titan averages a chilly -180 degrees Celsius, and its smoggy orange
atmosphere is thicker than the Earth's, mostly nitrogen but 6 percent
methane, together with substantial traces of all sorts of other
hydrocarbons. The orange color may come from "tholins": polymers made
by irradiating a mix of nitrogen and methane. Some other icy moons in
the outer solar system are covered with this goop, but Titan is the
only moon in the Solar System to have a substantial atmosphere. It
even has clouds.

As the Huygens probe parachuted to the surface, it photographed
what look like twisty riverbeds flowing into a large lake! People
have long suspected that Titan has lakes of made of methane and/or
ethane, but now we may be seeing them. And when Huygens landed, its
sensors reported that it broke through a crusty surface and sunk
about 20 centimeters into something mushy: probably methane mud!

The first color photo of the surface looks disappointingly like Mars
at first sight. But, the surface is pumpkin-colored due to tholins
or something, not rust red. The sky is orange too! The "rocks" could
be water ice. And they've detected hints of volcanos that spew molten
water and ammonia! So, it's a strange new world.

Back here on Earth, there was a conference in December in honor of
Larry Breen's 60th birthday:

2) Arithmetic, Geometry and Topology: Conference on occasion of Larry
Breen's sixtieth birthday, http://www-math.univ-paris13.fr/~lb2004/

It was in Paris. This was my first visit to that city, but luckily
I got to stay there an extra week after the conference, so I could focus
on the math while it was going on.

But I can't resist a digression! Paris won my heart, despite my suspicions
that it had somehow been hyped all along. First of all, it's beautiful.
Second, it's nice to be someplace where people take simple foods like
bread, cheese, fruits and vegetables really seriously, and don't settle
for the tasteless crud we so often eat in the US.

None of this came as a surprise, of course. What surprised is that I've
never seen a city with so many bookstores - and good ones, too! They're
clustered thick near the Sorbonne, but the Latin Quarter is dotted with
them, and there are even lots along the Boulevard St-Germain, which is the
biggest most fashionable shopping street. I don't think there's any place
in the English speaking world with so many bookstores. Not London, not
New York... Cambridge Massachusetts used to have lots near Harvard Square,
back when I was a grad student, but the high rents have long since squeezed
them out, replacing bohemian diversity with clothing shops for boring rich
people, like Abercrombie and Fitch. Somehow in Paris fancy clothing and
books coexist.

Umm, but what about the conference?

Well, Breen's work is mainly on algebraic geometry a la Grothendieck, with
a strong emphasis on category theory. Beautiful stuff, and lately it's
it's begun to find applications to string theory - especially his work on
gerbes. People at his conference spoke on all sorts of topics, most of
which I didn't understand very well - some heavy-duty number theory,
for example. I understood a few well enough to really enjoy them, like
Mike Hopkins' talk on derived algebraic geometry, Clemens Berger's talk on
geometric Reedy categories, and Ieke Moerdijk's talk on the homotopy theory
of operads. But I won't try to explain these - I want to explain what a
"gerbe" is, so I have my work cut out for me.

One way to get going on the idea of gauge theory is to start with
electromagnetism, where the concept of "phase" turns out to play a
crucial role. If you move a charged particle through an electromagnetic
field, its wavefunction gets multiplied by a unit complex number, or
"phase" - and it turns out, rather wonderfully, that all effects of
electricity and magnetism on charged particles is due to this!

However, phases are funny. You can't actually measure the phase of
a charged particle - at least, there's no such thing as a "phasometer"
where you stick in a particle and the dial on the meter points to
a unit complex number. Of course a unit complex number is just a fancy
name for a point on the circle, and a dial is precisely the right shape
for that... but you just can't build this machine.

Instead, you can only measure the *change* in phase of a particle as
it goes around a loop. Or, equivalently, the *difference* in phases
when a particle takes two different paths from here to there. See,
in quantum mechanics you can play tricks like the "double slit experiment",
where you coax a particle's wavefunction to smear out and take two routes
from here to there... and then when it arrives, it interferes with itself,
and if you're smart you can see by these interference effects what the
relative phase of the two paths is.

Pretty weird, eh? I'm so used to this that it seems completely normal to
me, but I should admit that this way of understanding the electromagnetic
field came fairly late. Weyl had a hint of it in 1918 when he invented
the term "gauge theory" in his quest to unify electromagnetism and gravity,
but he was mixed up in some crucial ways that only got sorted out quite
a bit later. For more details, try O'Raiferteagh's book "The Dawning of
Gauge Theory", which I discussed in "week116".

Anyway, the concept of relative phase, or difference in phase, is nicely
captured by the concept of a "torsor". A unit complex number is a point
on the unit circle in the complex plane. This circle is a group since
we can multiply unit complex numbers and get unit complex numbers back.
This group is called U(1). Like a dial, U(1) has standard names for
all the points on it - and it has one god-given special point, the
identity element, namely the number 1.

A "U(1) torsor" is a lot like U(1), but subtly different. It's a circle
where the points aren't given these standard names... but where you can
still tell measure angles, and tell the difference between clockwise and
counterclockwise.

You can't get an element of U(1) from *one* point on a U(1) torsor. But,
if you have *two* points on a U(1) torsor, you can say how much rotation
it takes to get from one to the other, and this give an element of U(1).
In other words, you can describe the "difference in phase" between these
two points.

For more on torsors, try this:

3) John Baez, Torsors made easy, http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/torsors.html

Anyway, the real idea behind electromagnetism is that sitting over
each point in spacetime is a U(1) torsor. If a particle is sitting at
some point in spacetime, its phase is not really a numbers: it's an
element of the U(1) torsor sitting over that point! To get a *number*,
we have to carry the particle around a loop! Its phase will change when
we do this, so we get *two* points in a U(1) torsor, and their difference
is an element of U(1).

So while it sounds far-out, the key mathematical structure in electromagnetism
is a bunch of U(1) torsors, one over each point in spacetime. This is called
a "principal U(1) bundle" or sometimes just a "U(1) bundle" for short.

If we wanted to describe some force other than electromagnetism, we could
take this whole setup and replace U(1) with some other group. In fact,
this idea works great: it's the main idea behind gauge theories, which do
an excellent job of describing all the forces in nature.

To set up a gauge theory, the first thing you need to do is pick a
group G and pick a "principal G-bundle" over spacetime. Spacetime
will be some manifold X. A principal G-bundle over X is gadget that
assigns a G-torsor to each point of X. A G-torsor is a space where if
you pick two points in it, you get an element of G which describes their
"difference".

I'm being fairly sloppy here, so don't take these as precise definitions!
I give a precise definition of a G-torsor in the above webpage, and any
decent book on differential geometry will give you a definition of
principal G-bundles. However, only rather highbrow books define principal
G-bundles with the help of G-torsors... which is sad, because it's not
that hard, and rather enlightening.

Anyway, in gauge theory the forces of nature are described by "connections"
on principal G-bundles. Let's say we have a principal G-bundle P which
assigns to each point x of our manifold a G-torsor P(x). Then a
"connection" on P is a gadget that says how any path from x to y gives a
map from P(x) to P(y). If G is U(1), for example, this gadget says how the
phase of a charged particle changes as we move it along any path from x to y.

Now suppose we have a loop that starts and ends at x. Then our connection
gives a map from P(x) to itself. If we start with a point in P(x), and
apply this map, we get another point in P(x). Since P(x) is a G-torsor,
these two points determine an element of G. This is how we get group
elements from loops in gauge theory!

Now let me sketch how gerbes enter the game. First I'll do the case where
the group G is abelian, for example U(1). It's the nonabelian gerbes that
really interest me... but the abelian case is a lot easier. The reason
is that when G is abelian, the group element we get in the previous
paragraph doesn't depend on the choice of a point of P(x).

Gerbes show up when we try to invent a kind of "higher gauge theory"
that describes how not just point particles but 1-dimensional objects
transform when you move them around. For example, the strings in string
theory, or the loops in loop quantum gravity.

This leads to a mind-boggling self-referential twist, which is just the
kind of thing I love:

As we've seen, a connection describes how a point particle transforms when
you carry it along a path:

f
x------------>-----y a path f from the point x to the point y:
we write this as f: x -> y


Now we need a gadget that'll describe how a *path* transforms when you
carry it along a PATH OF PATHS:

f
----------->-----
/ || \x ||F y a path-of-paths F from the path f to the path g:
\ \/ / we write this as F: f => g
----------->-----
g

To do this, we need to boost our level of thinking a notch, working not
with "G-torsors" and "principal G-bundles" but instead with "G-2-torsors"
and "G-gerbes".

Here's how it goes:

We start by picking an abelian group G and a manifold X.

Then we pick a "G-gerbe" over M, say P.

What's that? It's a thing that assigns to each point x of X a "G-2-torsor",
say P(x).

What's that? Well, it's a thing where if you pick two points in it, you
get a G-TORSOR describing their difference!

Get it? This is the beginning of a story that goes on forever:

Two points in a G-torsor determine an element of G;
two points in a G-2-torsor determine a G-torsor;
two points in a G-3-torsor determine a G-2-torsor;

qmagick@yahoo.com
Jan30-05, 02:42 AM
<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>How do you define a connection? Perhaps an example...\n\n-- NPC\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">&nbsp;&nbsp;View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>How do you define a connection? Perhaps an example...

-- NPC

Kwok Man Hui
Jan30-05, 02:42 AM
<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>&gt; John Baez wrote:\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; Anyway, the real idea behind electromagnetism is that sitting over\n&gt; each point in spacetime is a U(1) torsor. If a particle is sitting at\n&gt; some point in spacetime, its phase is not really a numbers: it\'s an\n&gt; element of the U(1) torsor sitting over that point! To get a *number*,\n&gt; we have to carry the particle around a loop! Its phase will change when\n&gt; we do this, so we get *two* points in a U(1) torsor, and their difference\n&gt; is an element of U(1).\n&gt;\n&gt; So while it sounds far-out, the key mathematical structure in electromagnetism\n&gt; is a bunch of U(1) torsors, one over each point in spacetime. This is called\n&gt; a "principal U(1) bundle" or sometimes just a "U(1) bundle" for short.\n&gt;\n&gt; If we wanted to describe some force other than electromagnetism, we could\n&gt; take this whole setup and replace U(1) with some other group. In fact,\n&gt; this idea works great: it\'s the main idea behind gauge theories, which do\n&gt; an excellent job of describing all the forces in nature.\n&gt;\n&gt; To set up a gauge theory, the first thing you need to do is pick a\n&gt; group G and pick a "principal G-bundle" over spacetime. Spacetime\n&gt; will be some manifold X. A principal G-bundle over X is gadget that\n&gt; assigns a G-torsor to each point of X. A G-torsor is a space where if\n&gt; you pick two points in it, you get an element of G which describes their\n&gt; "difference".\n&gt;\n&gt; Anyway, in gauge theory the forces of nature are described by "connections"\n&gt; on principal G-bundles. Let\'s say we have a principal G-bundle P which\n&gt; assigns to each point x of our manifold a G-torsor P(x). Then a\n&gt; Anyway, the concept of relative phase, or difference in phase, is nicely\n&gt; captured by the concept of a "torsor". A unit complex number is a point\n&gt; on the unit circle in the complex plane. This circle is a group since\n&gt; we can multiply unit complex numbers and get unit complex numbers back.\n&gt; This group is called U(1). Like a dial, U(1) has standard names for\n&gt; all the points on it - and it has one god-given special point, the\n&gt; identity element, namely the number 1.\n&gt;\n\nIn order to develop a gauge field theory, should one have a Larangian\nwhich is invariant under local symmetry transformations and should have\ncovariant derivative to define connection? Define Lie algebra-valued\nforms? The whole physical point of the theory is the bosonic or fermionic\ninteraction picture, right?\n\nI look up the definition of gauge field theory from the online\nencyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_field_theory\n\nCharles Hui\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">&nbsp;&nbsp;View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>> John Baez wrote:
>
>
> Anyway, the real idea behind electromagnetism is that sitting over
> each point in spacetime is a U(1) torsor. If a particle is sitting at
> some point in spacetime, its phase is not really a numbers: it's an
> element of the U(1) torsor sitting over that point! To get a *number*,
> we have to carry the particle around a loop! Its phase will change when
> we do this, so we get *two* points in a U(1) torsor, and their difference
> is an element of U(1).
>
> So while it sounds far-out, the key mathematical structure in electromagnetism
> is a bunch of U(1) torsors, one over each point in spacetime. This is called
> a "principal U(1) bundle" or sometimes just a "U(1) bundle" for short.
>
> If we wanted to describe some force other than electromagnetism, we could
> take this whole setup and replace U(1) with some other group. In fact,
> this idea works great: it's the main idea behind gauge theories, which do
> an excellent job of describing all the forces in nature.
>
> To set up a gauge theory, the first thing you need to do is pick a
> group G and pick a "principal G-bundle" over spacetime. Spacetime
> will be some manifold X. A principal G-bundle over X is gadget that
> assigns a G-torsor to each point of X. A G-torsor is a space where if
> you pick two points in it, you get an element of G which describes their
> "difference".
>
> Anyway, in gauge theory the forces of nature are described by "connections"
> on principal G-bundles. Let's say we have a principal G-bundle P which
> assigns to each point x of our manifold a G-torsor P(x). Then a
> Anyway, the concept of relative phase, or difference in phase, is nicely
> captured by the concept of a "torsor". A unit complex number is a point
> on the unit circle in the complex plane. This circle is a group since
> we can multiply unit complex numbers and get unit complex numbers back.
> This group is called U(1). Like a dial, U(1) has standard names for
> all the points on it - and it has one god-given special point, the
> identity element, namely the number 1.
>

In order to develop a gauge field theory, should one have a Larangian
which is invariant under local symmetry transformations and should have
covariant derivative to define connection? Define Lie algebra-valued
forms? The whole physical point of the theory is the bosonic or fermionic
interaction picture, right?

I look up the definition of gauge field theory from the online
encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_field_theory

Charles Hui

baez@galaxy.ucr.edu
Feb4-05, 08:35 AM
<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>\n\nIn article &lt;1106971272.577196.65180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com&gt;,\n&lt;qmagick@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:\n\n&gt;How do you define a connection? Perhaps an example...\n\nA connection is a rule which says how particles transform as we\nmove them along paths in space, or spacetime. We describe these\ntransformations by elements of some group G. We need this rule to\nsatisfy a few sensible properties.\n\nMore precisely, a connection is a rule which assigns an element A(f)\nof some group G to each path f in some space, such that:\n\n1) if you compose two paths, you multiply their group elements:\n\nA(ff\') = A(f) A(f\')\n\n2) the trivial path that just sits at the point x, say 1_x, gets\nthe identity element in your group:\n\nA(1_x) = 1\n\n3) the reverse path f^{-1} gets the inverse group element:\n\nA(f^{-1}) = A(f)^{-1}\n\nTo make this more precise we should say what kind of space we\'re\ninterested in: usually a smooth manifold. And, what kind of path\nwe\'re interested in: usually a smooth unparametrized path. And, what\nkind of group we\'re interested in: usually a Lie group. And, what\nkind of rule we\'re interested in: usually one where A(f) depends smoothly\non f.\n\nThis is then a fine definition of a smooth connection on a trivial\nG-bundle over a smooth manifold. It\'s not the definition you\'ll usually\nsee in books, but unless I screwed up, it\'s equivalent to that. The\nusually definition involves Lie-algebra-valued differential forms, and\nI think that stuff is more technical than what I just said.\n\nAn example of a connection is the electromagnetic field, or gravity.\n(That\'s not supposed to be obvious.)\n\n\n\n\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">&nbsp;&nbsp;View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>In article <1106971272.577196.65180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.c om>,
<qmagick@yahoo.com> wrote:

>How do you define a connection? Perhaps an example...

A connection is a rule which says how particles transform as we
move them along paths in space, or spacetime. We describe these
transformations by elements of some group G. We need this rule to
satisfy a few sensible properties.

More precisely, a connection is a rule which assigns an element A(f)
of some group G to each path f in some space, such that:

1) if you compose two paths, you multiply their group elements:

A(ff') = A(f) A(f')

2) the trivial path that just sits at the point x, say 1_x, gets
the identity element in your group:

A(1_x) = 1

3) the reverse path f^{-1} gets the inverse group element:

A(f^{-1}) = A(f)^{-1}

To make this more precise we should say what kind of space we're
interested in: usually a smooth manifold. And, what kind of path
we're interested in: usually a smooth unparametrized path. And, what
kind of group we're interested in: usually a Lie group. And, what
kind of rule we're interested in: usually one where A(f) depends smoothly
on f.

This is then a fine definition of a smooth connection on a trivial
G-bundle over a smooth manifold. It's not the definition you'll usually
see in books, but unless I screwed up, it's equivalent to that. The
usually definition involves Lie-algebra-valued differential forms, and
I think that stuff is more technical than what I just said.

An example of a connection is the electromagnetic field, or gravity.
(That's not supposed to be obvious.)

John Baez
Feb4-05, 08:35 AM
<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>\n\nIn article &lt;Pine.LNX.4.60.0501291848490.22218@lab40.ma.utexas .edu&gt;,\nKwok Man Hui &lt;kmhui@math.utexas.edu&gt; wrote:\n\n&gt;In order to develop a gauge field theory, should one have a Larangian\n&gt;which is invariant under local symmetry transformations and should have\n&gt;covariant derivative to define connection?\n\nA gauge theory is a field theory where one of the fields is a connection,\nand where the Lagrangian is invariant under local gauge transformations.\nThe connection allows you to take covariant derivatives of other fields,\nand typically one takes advantage of this when inventing gauge-invariant\nLagrangians.\n\n&gt;Define Lie algebra-valued\n&gt;forms? The whole physical point of the theory is the bosonic or fermionic\n&gt;interaction picture, right?\n\nUmm, yeah.\n\n&gt;I look up the definition of gauge field theory from the online\n&gt;encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_field_theory\n\nThat\'s pretty darn good for an encyclopedia. But, I don\'t think\none can really understand gauge theory from just an encyclopedia\nentry. If you want me to explain gauge field theories, buy my\nbook "Gauge Fields, Knots, and Gravity" - it will talk to you for\nyears. :-) If you want more of a physicist\'s approach, which\nhas the advantage of being free, try this book:\n\nWarren Siegel, Fields, available at\nhttp://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/\n\n\n\n\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">&nbsp;&nbsp;View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>In article <Pine.LNX.4.60.0501291848490.22218@lab40.ma.utexas. edu>,
Kwok Man Hui <kmhui@math.utexas.edu> wrote:

>In order to develop a gauge field theory, should one have a Larangian
>which is invariant under local symmetry transformations and should have
>covariant derivative to define connection?

A gauge theory is a field theory where one of the fields is a connection,
and where the Lagrangian is invariant under local gauge transformations.
The connection allows you to take covariant derivatives of other fields,
and typically one takes advantage of this when inventing gauge-invariant
Lagrangians.

>Define Lie algebra-valued
>forms? The whole physical point of the theory is the bosonic or fermionic
>interaction picture, right?

Umm, yeah.

>I look up the definition of gauge field theory from the online
>encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_field_theory

That's pretty darn good for an encyclopedia. But, I don't think
one can really understand gauge theory from just an encyclopedia
entry. If you want me to explain gauge field theories, buy my
book "Gauge Fields, Knots, and Gravity" - it will talk to you for
years. :-) If you want more of a physicist's approach, which
has the advantage of being free, try this book:

Warren Siegel, Fields, available at
http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/

Kwok Man Hui
Feb5-05, 08:12 AM
<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>Professor Baez,\n\nThanks for your response. Trully, I know very little about gauge field\ntheory. Your book is certainly worth of my reading. I hope my following\nmathemtical motivation will induce some aspiration to some people.\n\nOn Fri, 4 Feb 2005, John Baez wrote:\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; Kwok Man Hui wrote:\n&gt;\n&gt; &gt; In order to develop a gauge field theory, should one have a Larangian\n&gt; &gt; which is invariant under local symmetry transformations and should\nhave\n&gt; &gt; covariant derivative to define connection?\n\n\n&gt; A gauge theory is a field theory where one of the fields is a connection,\n&gt; and where the Lagrangian is invariant under local gauge transformations.\n&gt; The connection allows you to take covariant derivatives of other fields,\n&gt; and typically one takes advantage of this when inventing gauge-invariant\n&gt; Lagrangians.\n&gt;\nAre you regarding your connection as parallel transport? I know an\nabstract definition of a connection satifies a Leibnitz rule in which it\nneeds an exterior derivative on forms and the rule itself is already a\nkind of differentiation. Base on that one can define covariant derivative\nabstractly. I learned differential geoemtry from a very primitive way,\ni.e., starting from a Lie derivative with respect to a vector field or a\ncovariant derivative of a vector field along a curve.\n\nI appreciate this way a lot more because physicists regard connection on\nprincipal bundle as field potential and curvature 2-form as field\nstrength. This is easier to grasp the physical essence or its physical\ninterpretation because it doesn\'t involve any differential form first (I\nam not afraid of Elie Cartan forms but the structure is too rigid. Under\nthis frame, this is very hard to conceive some kind of "bubble resolution\nof singularity" as in the following.)\n\nSecond, and most important to me is I want to introduce a quantum\nspacetime mechanism that is a quantum spacetime fluctuation that create\nspace or tiny buble or spin foam whatever you want to call this entity. I\nwant to have an analogous "connection coefficient" about quantum spacetime\nin large scale.\n\n"To quantify the contribution from del-e-beta and del-omega-alpha, i.e.,\nto quantify the twisting, turning, expansion, and contraction of the basis\nvectors and 1-forms, one defines \'connection coefficients\'"---Gravitation,\nMisner,Thorne,Wheeler on p.208\n\nTo quantify quantum spacetime bubble creation analogously in a classical\nway (which is not equivalent to spacetime stretching. I think you agree\nwith me on this if you allow me to apply your spin foam or spin network\ninterpretation here), I think people need a corresponding picture here.\n\nI recently re-read your n-category theory and topological quantum field\ntheory. A conection coefficient is a kind of inner product, and I hope\nthis will hook up with your n-category theory on topological quantum field\ntheory. The purpose is to add some dynanical content to a background\nindependent field theory.\n\nThirdly, if someone wants to extend vector bundle theory say allow some\nsmooth vector field evolves into a singularity at some spacetime point or\nat some base manifold point, one may need a "bubble resolution of\nsingularity."\nA connection or a 1-form on a manifold is very stringent to conceive this\nkind of field fluctuation. In addition, it is very hard to interpret the\ninteractions between singualr fields. Then, the purpose to have some new\n"connection form" is to define some kind of "Lie algebra-valued forms" to\nextend the correspondence:\n\nConnection is to field potential, and curvature corresponds to field\nstrength. Then, of course, what follows is the bosonic or fermionic\ninteraction picture. So, in my naive opinion, how to define a kind of\ncovariant derivative under some "bubble (local) resolution of singularity"\nis very crucial to extend to a new gauge field theory in which a vector\nfield or some "tensor field" may evolve into some singualrity.\n\nHistorically, when Einstein tried to write down a mathematical definition\nfor Brownian motion, he encountered a similar difficulty of writing down\nthe definition, i.e., the zig-zag motion causes the derivative of\ndisplacement or the velocity of a particle to be well defined. So he\ncouldn\'t write down the definition. The job was succeeded until Wiener\ncame to lay down the rigorous definition.\n\nI hope people will see some mathematical difficulties here rather than no\ndifficulties, and see physical interpretation problem rather than no\ninterpretation problem. I hope I didn\'t extend too much here.\n\n&gt; &gt; Define Lie algebra-valued\n&gt; &gt; forms? The whole physical point of the theory is the bosonic or\n&gt; &gt; fermionic\n&gt; &gt; interaction picture, right?\n&gt;\n&gt; Umm, yeah.\nGreat! I hope people will find some new interaction picture here.\n\n\n&gt; &gt; I look up the definition of gauge field theory from the online\n&gt; &gt; encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_field_theory\n&gt;\n&gt; That\'s pretty darn good for an encyclopedia. But, I don\'t think\n&gt; one can really understand gauge theory from just an encyclopedia\n&gt; entry. If you want me to explain gauge field theories, buy my\n&gt; book "Gauge Fields, Knots, and Gravity" - it will talk to you for\n&gt; years. :-) If you want more of a physicist\'s approach, which\n&gt; has the advantage of being free, try this book:\n&gt;\n&gt; Warren Siegel, Fields, available at\n&gt; http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/\n&gt;\nThanks for the material. It certainly will take me years to learn the\nsubject well. I hope my full-time job is to study mathemtical physics.\n\nCharles Hui\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">&nbsp;&nbsp;View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>Professor Baez,

Thanks for your response. Trully, I know very little about gauge field
theory. Your book is certainly worth of my reading. I hope my following
mathemtical motivation will induce some aspiration to some people.

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, John Baez wrote:
>
>
> Kwok Man Hui wrote:
>
> > In order to develop a gauge field theory, should one have a Larangian
> > which is invariant under local symmetry transformations and should
have
> > covariant derivative to define connection?


> A gauge theory is a field theory where one of the fields is a connection,
> and where the Lagrangian is invariant under local gauge transformations.
> The connection allows you to take covariant derivatives of other fields,
> and typically one takes advantage of this when inventing gauge-invariant
> Lagrangians.
>
Are you regarding your connection as parallel transport? I know an
abstract definition of a connection satifies a Leibnitz rule in which it
needs an exterior derivative on forms and the rule itself is already a
kind of differentiation. Base on that one can define covariant derivative
abstractly. I learned differential geoemtry from a very primitive way,
i.e., starting from a Lie derivative with respect to a vector field or a
covariant derivative of a vector field along a curve.

I appreciate this way a lot more because physicists regard connection on
principal bundle as field potential and curvature 2-form as field
strength. This is easier to grasp the physical essence or its physical
interpretation because it doesn't involve any differential form first (I
am not afraid of Elie Cartan forms but the structure is too rigid. Under
this frame, this is very hard to conceive some kind of "bubble resolution
of singularity" as in the following.)

Second, and most important to me is I want to introduce a quantum
spacetime mechanism that is a quantum spacetime fluctuation that create
space or tiny buble or spin foam whatever you want to call this entity. I
want to have an analogous "connection coefficient" about quantum spacetime
in large scale.

"To quantify the contribution from del-e-\beta and del-\omega-\alpha, i.e.,
to quantify the twisting, turning, expansion, and contraction of the basis
vectors and 1-forms, one defines 'connection coefficients'"---Gravitation,
Misner,Thorne,Wheeler on p.208

To quantify quantum spacetime bubble creation analogously in a classical
way (which is not equivalent to spacetime stretching. I think you agree
with me on this if you allow me to apply your spin foam or spin network
interpretation here), I think people need a corresponding picture here.

I recently re-read your n-category theory and topological quantum field
theory. A conection coefficient is a kind of inner product, and I hope
this will hook up with your n-category theory on topological quantum field
theory. The purpose is to add some dynanical content to a background
independent field theory.

Thirdly, if someone wants to extend vector bundle theory say allow some
smooth vector field evolves into a singularity at some spacetime point or
at some base manifold point, one may need a "bubble resolution of
singularity."
A connection or a 1-form on a manifold is very stringent to conceive this
kind of field fluctuation. In addition, it is very hard to interpret the
interactions between singualr fields. Then, the purpose to have some new
"connection form" is to define some kind of "Lie algebra-valued forms" to
extend the correspondence:

Connection is to field potential, and curvature corresponds to field
strength. Then, of course, what follows is the bosonic or fermionic
interaction picture. So, in my naive opinion, how to define a kind of
covariant derivative under some "bubble (local) resolution of singularity"
is very crucial to extend to a new gauge field theory in which a vector
field or some "tensor field" may evolve into some singualrity.

Historically, when Einstein tried to write down a mathematical definition
for Brownian motion, he encountered a similar difficulty of writing down
the definition, i.e., the zig-zag motion causes the derivative of
displacement or the velocity of a particle to be well defined. So he
couldn't write down the definition. The job was succeeded until Wiener
came to lay down the rigorous definition.

I hope people will see some mathematical difficulties here rather than no
difficulties, and see physical interpretation problem rather than no
interpretation problem. I hope I didn't extend too much here.

> > Define Lie algebra-valued
> > forms? The whole physical point of the theory is the bosonic or
> > fermionic
> > interaction picture, right?
>
> Umm, yeah.
Great! I hope people will find some new interaction picture here.


> > I look up the definition of gauge field theory from the online
> > encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_field_theory
>
> That's pretty darn good for an encyclopedia. But, I don't think
> one can really understand gauge theory from just an encyclopedia
> entry. If you want me to explain gauge field theories, buy my
> book "Gauge Fields, Knots, and Gravity" - it will talk to you for
> years. :-) If you want more of a physicist's approach, which
> has the advantage of being free, try this book:
>
> Warren Siegel, Fields, available at
> http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/
>
Thanks for the material. It certainly will take me years to learn the
subject well. I hope my full-time job is to study mathemtical physics.

Charles Hui