Is NASA Replacing Columbia with a New Shuttle?

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The discussion revolves around whether NASA plans to build a new space shuttle to replace Columbia following its loss. Participants explore the future of shuttle flights, the feasibility of new designs, and the implications for manned space missions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question if NASA will ever fly another shuttle again, with differing opinions on the future of shuttle flights.
  • One participant emphasizes that NASA has scheduled a shuttle flight after the Columbia incident, suggesting a continuation of shuttle operations.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that NASA may build more shuttles in the future, despite the loss of two shuttles already.
  • Some argue that NASA is unlikely to build another shuttle like the current design, proposing a shift towards a more advanced vehicle to address existing launch and re-entry issues.
  • Concerns are raised about the cost-effectiveness of shuttles, with one participant stating that the shuttle program may end after the completion of the ISS.
  • There are claims that NASA cannot afford to build another shuttle, with suggestions that privatization may play a role in future space missions.
  • One participant critiques the shuttle's safety and cost, advocating for a design based on the Russian Soyuz concept, which is perceived as simpler and safer.
  • Another point made is that the justification for manned space flight may be weak unless there is a push for missions like Mars exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the future of NASA's shuttle program, with no consensus on whether a new shuttle will be built or if the current program will continue.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference the cost implications and technical challenges of the shuttle program, as well as the potential for privatization in space exploration, but these points remain unresolved.

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hey guys,

does anybody know if NASA has built or going to build another shuttle to replace Columbia?
 
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A better question is: Will any shuttle EVER fly again?
 
A better question is: Will any shuttle EVER fly again?

yes, return to flight is scheduled for early May 2005.
 
I think that the fact that NASA has scheduled a shuttle flight after the incident is more important than replacing Columbia. I'd imagine that NASA will build many more shuttles in the future. After all, we have lost two shuttles already (Challenger and Columbia). I don't see the end of shuttle flights yet...
 
Rephrased:
has NASA built or going to build another shuttle to replace Columbia?
NO!

This question is more appropriate under aerospace engineering.

http://www.nasa.gov/news/highlights/returntoflight.html

Don't be surprised if there a more delays. I hope not, but . . . . :rolleyes:
 
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NO!
You don't think NASA is ever going to build another shuttle? I disagree...
 
Not like the current design.
From what I understand they are shooting for a more advanced shuttle that doesn't have all the launch and re-entry problems the current shuttle has.
 
I highly doubt any new shuttle being build. Just for the simple reason that shuttles aren't very cost-effective. As it stands now, the shuttle will retire after the 'core complete' of the ISS. If there wasn't for the ISS, it maybe would have already been retired.
NASA has to get that CEV program going though. There must be a replacement, preferably something that can also go to the moon if required (as the plan is now, they want people om the moon at 2015 or something. we'll see...)
 
I know from my contacts within NASA that they will not build another one. NASA can't afford it.

In addition, JIMO has been pushed backed in schedule.

The CEV program is problematic. Lunar missions are feasible in the near term, but a Mars mission is looking less likely, although that in theory is the eventual goal, more so than lunar missions.

I suspect there may be some push for privatization, which really means private individuals and corporations getting selective government funding, rather than NASA doing it.
 
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Making a shuttle in the first place was more a PR thing than a technical wise decision. It is very expensive and it is not a very save. Astronauts have no means of escape.
The russian sojuz is a much simpler and saver concept. When something goes wrong during lift off, the top of the rocket with the cosmonauts can be ejected. It just doesn't look very fancy.

So I think it would be wise to stop with the space shuttle and build together with the russians a rocket based on the concept of the sojuz. It should be bigger for 6 or 7 men.
 
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It's also worth pointing out that unless we're pushing for something like a manned mission to Mars, the case for manned space flight is pretty weak.
 

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