Verbiage: epistemically or epistemelogically?

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The discussion revolves around the usage of the terms "epistemically" and "epistemologically," particularly in the context of philosophical arguments about knowledge and belief. Participants explore the nuances of these terms and their implications for understanding arguments related to the existence of God.

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  • One participant questions the correctness of using "epistemically" in a sentence about the relevance of hoping for God's existence, suggesting "epistemologically" might be more appropriate.
  • Another participant argues that both terms can be used interchangeably, noting that "epistemic" relates to knowledge in general, while "epistemological" pertains to the theory of knowledge and the question of "HOW DO YOU KNOW?".
  • A participant provides definitions from various dictionaries, indicating that "epistemic" is indeed a recognized term and discussing its usage frequency compared to "epistemologically."
  • Further contributions include suggestions for accessing dictionary resources, with one participant sharing their preference for a downloadable dictionary tool and another discussing the benefits of having a dictionary on a hard drive.

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Participants express differing views on the interchangeability of "epistemically" and "epistemologically," with no clear consensus reached on which term is more appropriate in the discussed context.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference dictionary definitions and usage frequency, but there is no agreement on the implications of these distinctions for philosophical discourse.

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I borrowed some notes from a class mate because I had to miss a phil class, and I noticed that she had written that such and such argument is "epistemically" irrelevant.
I went to look this up in the dictionary and found no such word, but I did find the word "epistemologically". I assume this is the one I want. I am using it in the context of... "hoping that God exists is epistemologically irrelevant to the argument of whether or not God exists."
What do you think? Am I using this correctly? What I want to say is that it is of no use for getting at the truth of a matter. Thanks.

p.s. no, I am not an atheist - for anybody out there who might be worried I have had a sudden change of heart. :wink: :biggrin:
 
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Math Is Hard said:
I borrowed some notes from a class mate because I had to miss a phil class, and I noticed that she had written that such and such argument is "epistemically" irrelevant.
I went to look this up in the dictionary and found no such word, but I did find the word "epistemologically". I assume this is the one I want. I am using it in the context of... "hoping that God exists is epistemologically irrelevant to the argument of whether or not God exists."
What do you think? Am I using this correctly? What I want to say is that it is of no use for getting at the truth of a matter. Thanks.

p.s. no, I am not an atheist - for anybody out there who might be worried I have had a sudden change of heart. :wink: :biggrin:

Philosophers love CRTICAL DISTINCTION and RIGOUR in anyone analysis, and I do as well. But I will personally say that you can loosely use both interchangibly, even though epistemic concerns anything to do with knowledge in general, and epistemological to do with the theory and the fundamental question: "HOW DO YOU KNOW?" I leave the rest to your imagination!
 
http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=epistemic is a word- (I like Merriam-Webster; American Heritage gives the same definition). To see which of epistemically or epistemologically is correct, I would put the approximate definition of their roots into the sentence, getting something like:

"hoping that God exists is , according to the study of knowledge, irrelevant to the argument of whether or not God exists."

"hoping that God exists is , as far as knowledge is concerned, irrelevant to the argument of whether or not God exists."

I see "epistemically" used much more often than "epistemologically". Neither m-w.com, dictionary.com, or Roget’s list synonyms for "epistemic", "epistemology" or their adverb forms. However, Wordnet.com defines "epistemic" as "of or relating to epistemology; "epistemic modal".
 
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Thanks so much! My dictionary must be getting outdated!
 
m-w.com

Math Is Hard said:
My dictionary must be getting outdated
M-w.com has a handy toolbar you can download for free for your browser. Here is its epistemically definition:

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of or relating to knowledge or knowing : COGNITIVE
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The M-W Unabridged definition is more expansive:

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: of, having the character of, or relating to episteme, knowledge, or knowing as a type of experience : purely intellectual or cognitive; also : SUBJECTIVE <the epistemic conditions in our present state of knowledge> <the epistemic as contrasted with the phenomenological sense>
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Thanks, Hitsquad. I am for the most part violently opposed to downloadable toolbars, but I may give that a look-see.
 
Math Is Hard said:
Thanks, Hitsquad. I am for the most part violently opposed to downloadable toolbars, but I may give that a look-see.
Firefox comes with it- and many more (scroll to Add New Search Engines). Firefox rocks! Spread the word! :wink:
 
Alternatives to dictionary toolbars

If you don't like toolbars, you can also simply go to m-w.com (and after you go there the first time, you can click and drag the URL to your links bar so you never have to type it in again) and enter your look-up word. That's what I did before they came out with the toolbar. However, what I usually use these days is the M-W Unabridged on my hard drive. It takes up 89MB on my drive and cost me ~$50 (from amazon.com). I have it automatically load on system start-up, and when I need to look something up I click or ALT-Tab over to the dictionary, do my look-up business, and then ALT-Tab back to what I was doing just previously. Two advantages to having a dictionary on your hard drive is 1) you have no network delays, and 2) you can have access to it even when you don't have access to a network at all.

Another advantage (with the electronic M-W Unabridged) is that you can bookmark your looked-up words. I have hundreds of words bookmarked and I periodically review them. And yet another advantage is that you can do advanced searches, such as those listed http://www.merriam-webster.com/premium/institutions.htm, and even combine multiple advanced searches with boolian operators. There is even a browse function.
 
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