Magnitude and Direction Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to uniform circular motion, specifically focusing on calculating the magnitude and direction of the total force exerted on a roller coaster car moving around a horizontal curve.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the necessary parameters for solving the problem, with some suggesting that all required values are provided. Others express confusion over their calculations and question the correctness of their answers.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the forces acting on the roller coaster car, with some participants suggesting the need to consider all forces involved. Multiple interpretations of the problem and its parameters are being examined, and some guidance has been offered regarding the direction of acceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the roller coaster car being stationary versus in motion, and there is a mention of needing to account for all forces acting on the car, indicating potential gaps in understanding the problem setup.

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These magnitude and direction problems always give me a really hard time! What other numbers should I have in order to solve this problem? Hopefully from that I will be able to figure out the proper equation to use. Thanks!


Q: A roller coaster car of mass 320 kg (including passengers) travels around a horizontal curve of radius 30 m. Its speed is 18 m/s. What is the magnitude and direction of the total force exerted on the car by the track?
 
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Uniform Circular Motion.
[tex]F=\frac{mv^2}{R}[/tex].

You already know m, v, and r, so there are no other numbers you need to know. F is the centripetal force needed to keep the car on the track. Look in your book to find out the direction of the accelleration of the car, and you have your answer.
 
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I keep getting the answer 3456 N. But it keeps coming out wrong. What am I not doing correctly?
 
shorti2406 said:
I keep getting the answer 3456 N. But it keeps coming out wrong. What am I not doing correctly?
Is the correct answer 4667 N at 42 degrees? If so, you're missing a force. If not, I'm missing something too.
 
I agree with scholzie. The trick is remembering ALL the forces the track is exerting on the rollercoaster car.
 
That is the right answer. I am not sure how you got that though. I guess I'll just have to keep working at it! Thanks for all your help!
 
So if I have this same rollercoaster car not moving around the curve what forces are acting on it? Will these forces disappear when the car starts moving? Remember that forces are vectors.
 
shorti2406 said:
That is the right answer. I am not sure how you got that though. I guess I'll just have to keep working at it! Thanks for all your help!
Say, would this roller coaster happen to be in outer space? I assume it's on Earth...

Draw a free-body diagram with all of the forces acting on it.

:wink:
 

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