What Is the Symbol \nabla^2? Definition & Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the symbol \nabla^2, commonly referred to as the D'Alembertian or "box," in the context of electrodynamics and differential operators. Participants explore its definition, properties, and related concepts, including its application in special relativity and its relationship to the Laplacian operator.

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  • Some participants identify the symbol \nabla^2 as the D'Alembertian, also known informally as "box," and relate it to the metric used in special relativity.
  • There is a question about whether the D'Alembertian has a first-degree definition, with some participants seeking clarification on this point.
  • One participant explains that the D'Alembertian is a second-order linear differential operator and provides a detailed notation for the metric used.
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the terminology and notation, requesting simpler explanations.
  • There is a mention of the relationship between the D'Alembertian and the Laplacian, highlighting the differences in their definitions.

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Participants generally agree on the identification of the symbol as the D'Alembertian or "box," but there remains uncertainty regarding its first-degree definition and some of the technical terminology used in the discussion.

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Some participants express difficulty understanding the technical language and notation, indicating a potential barrier to comprehension. The discussion includes various interpretations of the symbol's properties and applications without reaching a consensus on all points.

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What's that symbol?

Today we've studied in the electrodynamique an affector named dalamperes affector defined as:

[tex]\nabla^2 - \frac{1}{c^2}\cdot\frac{\partial^2}{\partial t^2}[/tex]

c is the speed of light in vacuum, t is time, [tex]\nabla[/tex] is hameltons affector,

HERE IS THE QUESTION:

What's the name of the symbol used in that affector, the symbol is like a square and has the second degree, and does it have a definition for the first degree? and what is it? can some one explain everything about it?
 
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God,u mean the d'Alembertian,a.k.a.BOX...
Defined in SR as:
[tex]\Box =:\partial^{\mu}\partial_{\mu}[/tex]
,its form depends on the metric chosen...In your case the metric is:
[tex]\eta_{\mu\nu}=diag \ (+,+,+,-)[/tex] (rather uncharacteristic)

Nabla is no longer called Hamilton's...It's called simply nabla.

Daniel.
 
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Dextercioboy thank you for the specific answer, but i didn't understand:

1- What's the name of that symbol, is it aka box?
2- Does it have a first degree definition?
3- and what's the meaning of what's after Eta symbol you've written above?

Please try being more simple and specific with me, The language is causing me to not understand
 
D'ALEMBERT-IAN after the french mathematician Jean Le Rond d'Alembert,the one which discovered the waves' equation...

No.It's a second order linear differential operator...

You mean "diag"...?It's a shorthand notation for "diagonal".It means the matrix [tex]\hat{\eta}[/tex] is diagonal...

On normal basis i should have written it:
[tex](\hat{\eta})_{\mu\nu}=\left(\begin{array}{cccc}1&0&0&0\\0&1&0&0\\0&0&1&0\\0&0&0&-1\end{array}\right)[/tex]

Daniel.
 
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Oh my god, calm down, why you're getting nervous so quickly,

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It's better for me to not understand, thanks
 
Who said i wasn't calm...?:confused:I took it as u didn't see the name very clearly & that's why i wrote it bigger,nothing else...

Daniel.
 
Thank you anyway dextercioboy, you're a genius in maths and physics and that doesn't help you to teach a university boy like me, i'll try finding the solution in our library and internet,
 
? He answered precisely your question : the symbol you asked about is called, informally, "box", similar to "del" for the upside down triangle symbol, and, more formally, the "D'Alembertian". It is an extension of the LaPlacian: where the LaPlacian, in 3 dim space, is the sum of the second derivatives wrt each coordinate, the D'Alembertian includes subtracting the second derivative wrt time.

"box" f= [itex]\frac{\partial^2 f}{/partial x^2}+ \frac{\partial^2f}{/partial y^2}+ \frac{\partial^2 f}{/partial z}- \frac{\partial^2f}{/partial t^2}[/itex]
 
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