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The discussion revolves around an initial-value problem involving a differential equation: \(\sin (2x) \: dx + \cos (3y) \: dy = 0\) with the condition \(y \left( \frac{\pi}{2} \right) = \frac{\pi}{3}\). Participants are examining the steps taken to solve the equation and the discrepancies between their results and the textbook solution.

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  • The original poster attempts to integrate both sides of the equation but questions the correctness of their integration steps and the resulting expressions. Some participants question the integration of \(\cos(3y)\) and the application of integration constants. Others explore the implications of the arcsine function's range on the final solution.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, identifying mistakes in integration and discussing the implications of those mistakes. There is recognition of a correct intermediate expression, \(\sin(3y) = 3\cos^2(x)\), while also noting the need for adjustments to the final formula due to the range of the arcsine function. No consensus has been reached on a complete solution yet.

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There is a noted concern regarding the range of the arcsine function affecting the validity of the proposed solution. Participants are also reflecting on the initial conditions and how they influence the integration process.

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Here's the initial-value problem I'm trying to solve:

[tex]\sin (2x) \: dx + \cos (3y) \: dy = 0 \qquad y \left( \frac{\pi}{2} \right) = \frac{\pi}{3}[/tex]

I can't see exactly where my mistake is, but I do know that my answer is not correct. My textbook gives:

[tex]y=\frac{1}{3} \left[ \pi - \arcsin \left( 3 \cos ^2 x \right) \right]\mbox{.}[/tex]

Here's what I've done:

[tex]\sin (2x) \: dx + \cos (3y) \: dy = 0[/tex]

[tex]\sin (2x) \: dx = - \cos (3y) \: dy[/tex]

[tex]\int \sin (2x) \: dx = - \int \cos (3y) \: dy[/tex]

[tex]-\frac{1}{2} \cos (2x) = -\cos (y) \sin (y) + \mathrm{C}[/tex]

[tex]\cos (2x) = 2\cos (y) \sin (y) + \mathrm{C}[/tex]

Applying the initial condition at this point gives:

[tex]\mathrm{C} = -\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} - 1[/tex]

Thus, we have the following.

[tex]\cos (2x) = 2\cos (y) \sin (y) -\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} - 1[/tex]

[tex]\cos (2x) = \sin (2y) -\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} - 1[/tex]

[tex]\sin (2y) = \cos (2x) +\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} + 1[/tex]

[tex]\sin (2y) = 2\cos ^2 (x) - 1 +\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} + 1[/tex]

[tex]\sin (2y) = 2\cos ^2 (x) +\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}[/tex]

[tex]y = \frac{1}{2} \arcsin \left[ 2\cos ^2 (x) +\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} \right][/tex]

As you can see, I don't get the same answer.

Any help is highly appreciated.
 
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Are u claiming that

[tex]-\int \cos 3y \ dy=-\cos y \sin y +C[/tex]

If so,on what grounds?

Daniel.
 
If [tex]\integral sin 2x dx= -\frac{1}{2}cos(2x)[/tex]

why isn't [tex]\integral cos 3x dx= \frac{1}{3}sin(3x)[/tex]?
 
U mean with integral signs & integration constants,Halls,right?:rolleyes:

Daniel.
 
What I really did previously was [tex]-\int \cos (2y) \: dy = - \cos (y) \sin (y) + \mathrm{C}[/tex], which does not apply in this case. In fact, I missed one digit in the integrand. Thanks for pointing it out.

I've just fixed that mistake, but not quite the problem. Here's what I have now:

[tex]\sin (2x) \: dx + \cos (3y) \: dy = 0[/tex]

[tex]\sin (2x) \: dx = - \cos (3y) \: dy[/tex]

[tex]\int \sin (2x) \: dx = - \int \cos (3y) \: dy[/tex]

[tex]-\frac{1}{2} \cos (2x) = -\frac{1}{3} \sin (3y) + \mathrm{C}[/tex]

Applying the initial condition [tex]y \left( \frac{\pi}{2} \right) = \frac{\pi}{3}[/tex] gives [tex]\mathrm{C} = \frac{1}{2}[/tex].

[tex]-\frac{1}{2} \cos (2x) = -\frac{1}{3} \sin (3y) + \frac{1}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\sin (3y) = \frac{3 + 3\cos (2x)}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\sin (3y) = \frac{3 + 3\left( 2\cos ^2 x - 1 \right)}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\sin (3y) = 3\cos ^2 x[/tex]

[tex]y = \frac{1}{3} \arcsin \left( 3\cos ^2 x \right)[/tex]

I'm still confused!
 
The last formula

[tex]y=\frac{1}{3}\arcsin\left(3\cos^{2}x\right)[/tex]

does not verify the initial condition,becasue the range of "arcsin" is [itex]\left[-\frac{\pi}{2},+\frac{\pi}{2}\right][/itex]...

However,your penultimate formula is correct

[tex]\sin 3y=3\cos^{2} x[/tex]

I advise you to leave it in this implicit form or try to put in the one the problem is giving...

Daniel.
 
Okay, I just need to make some corrections in my last formula because of the problem with the range of arcsin. That would make it

[tex]y = \frac{\pi}{3} - \frac{1}{3} \arcsin \left( 3\cos ^2 x \right)[/tex]

Thank you
 
It's good that u realized how to solve this trancendental equation

[tex]\sin x = a[/tex]

Daniel.
 

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