Inverse Functions: Justifying the Claim

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of inverse functions, particularly focusing on whether the identity function y=x is the only function that is its own inverse. Participants explore various proofs, counterexamples, and graphical interpretations related to this topic, which spans theoretical and conceptual aspects of functions and their inverses.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that y=x is the only function that is its own inverse, while others challenge this by providing counterexamples, such as y=1/x.
  • One participant mentions that any function symmetrical to the line y=x can be considered its own inverse, suggesting an infinite number of such functions exist.
  • Another participant highlights the identity function's invertibility across all real numbers.
  • There is a discussion about the algebraic proof for the function f(x)=(ax+b)/(cx-a) being its own inverse, with participants sharing hints and methods for solving it.
  • Some participants express confusion about the algebra involved in proving certain functions are their own inverses.
  • A later reply questions the classification of y^2 + x^2 = r^2 as a function, noting it does not meet the criteria due to multiple outputs for certain inputs.
  • The inverse function of sin x is mentioned, with participants clarifying its notation as arcsin or sin^{-1}.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether y=x is the only function that is its own inverse, as multiple competing views and counterexamples are presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the algebraic manipulation required to demonstrate that certain functions are their own inverses, indicating potential gaps in understanding or missing steps in the proofs.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying precalculus or those interested in the properties of functions and their inverses, particularly in understanding the concept of symmetry and the conditions for invertibility.

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Inverse functions?

I was just wondering...Isnot y=x the only function that is the inverse of itself? How do you go on about saying it in a formal way? I mean as response to your assignment question. where you are not just told to not only give fatcts but "Justify your claim with appropriate proofs!"?

Thanks
K. Cv.
 
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There's a nice graphic-related proof.A function that is invertible on a domain is bijective,which means both injective & surjective.In terms of graphs,the graph of the function and its inverse (if it exists) are symmetrical wrt the graph of f(x)=x.If the two functions coincide,then they coincide with the identity function.

Daniel.
 
Do you mean to say, y=x is the only function where [tex]f(x)=f^{-1}(x)[/tex]?

Proof by counterexample:

[tex]y=\frac{1}{x}[/tex]
 
Any function which is symmetrical from the line y=x is the inverse of itself, in that sense there will be an infinite number of them.

Although perhaps very few simple functions, another easy one is [tex]y^2 + x^2 = r^2[/tex]
 
The identity function is invertible on all R...

Daniel.
 
how about y = -x, y = -1/x,...
 
If your question was simply "prove of disprove: y = x is the only function that is its own inverse", you can just give a counterexample and be done. Is this how the question you were given was worded?
 
precalculus question

Hello,

I have a similar question; I'm currently taking precalculus, and I have a question here that I'm stuck on:

"Let f(x)=(ax+b)/(cx-a), (cx-a)?0. Show that f(x) is it's own inverse."

I understand, graphically, that f(x) equals its inverse in this case, because they are reflections of each other over y=x. I've graphically solved this using technology and by-hand sketches. And I also understand that the restiction on the denominator come about because the equation would then be undefined (if it equalled 0). But I cannot figure out why this is, algebraically.

Can anyone help me, or give me a hint?

Thanks very much,
sam.grotz
 
sam.grotz said:
Hello,

I have a similar question; I'm currently taking precalculus, and I have a question here that I'm stuck on:

"Let f(x)=(ax+b)/(cx-a), (cx-a)?0. Show that f(x) is it's own inverse."

I understand, graphically, that f(x) equals its inverse in this case, because they are reflections of each other over y=x. I've graphically solved this using technology and by-hand sketches. And I also understand that the restiction on the denominator come about because the equation would then be undefined (if it equalled 0). But I cannot figure out why this is, algebraically.

Can anyone help me, or give me a hint?

Thanks very much,
sam.grotz

Just compute f(f(x)).
 
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sam.grotz said:
Hello,

I have a similar question; I'm currently taking precalculus, and I have a question here that I'm stuck on:

"Let f(x)=(ax+b)/(cx-a), (cx-a)?0. Show that f(x) is it's own inverse."

I understand, graphically, that f(x) equals its inverse in this case, because they are reflections of each other over y=x. I've graphically solved this using technology and by-hand sketches. And I also understand that the restiction on the denominator come about because the equation would then be undefined (if it equalled 0). But I cannot figure out why this is, algebraically.

Can anyone help me, or give me a hint?

Thanks very much,
sam.grotz

Sam, just start with [tex]y = \frac{ax+b}{cx-a}[/tex] and then rearrage it to get "x" by itself on the LHS.

Whats happening. Are you just getting stuck on the algebra to do this rearrangement?
 
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Zurtex said:
Any function which is symmetrical from the line y=x is the inverse of itself, in that sense there will be an infinite number of them.

Although perhaps very few simple functions, another easy one is [tex]y^2 + x^2 = r^2[/tex]
[tex]y^2 + x^2 = r^2[/tex] is not a function, because for any value of x < r, you can get two different values of y.
 
  • #12
A silly conjecture... An infinite number of counterexamples.
 
  • #13
Thanks!

Thanks to ZioX and uart for giving me the helpful direction.:smile: I think what I must have done before was just think too far ahead, and presume that it couldn't be simplified in that way. Thanks again! It turns out it actually ends up simplifying to just:

y=x

peace,
sam.grotz
 
  • #14
what is the inverse function of sin x. I don't know if it is written correctly
 
  • #15
arcsin, or sin^{-1}

and if you think that it is avoiding the issue, then you need to rethink your view of what a function is.
 

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