It is said by current science that the Universe (matter, energy) was created by the Big Bang. Physicists describes the Big Bang as an explosion that released matter and energy throughout the vastness of space. This means that before the Big Bang, only space existed and anti-matter if you count that. Space is defined as empty (the absense of matter and energy) Obviously, a delima exist here. How is it possible that the absense of matter and energy (space) created or produced matter and energy (the Universe). It does not make any sense. To justify the Big Bang is to justify the logic that "something" can come from "nothing." This is logicaly not possible.
I guess this all fits in with the Uncertainty Principle which implies that at the subatomic level "virtual particles," also called quantum fluctuations, arise out of "nothing" into existence only to disappear, becoming "nothing" again. This, however, has never been proven-that quantum fluctuations actually exist.
I need some feedback regarding my overall logic behind why I dislike the Big Bang theory, i.e. prove to me that the absense of matter, mass, and energy (space) somehow has the ability to create matter, mass, and energy.
russ_watters
Apr14-05, 02:07 PM
That post is chock-full of misunderstandings of the big bang.
-The big bang was not an explosion in the normal sense.
-The big bang was the start of "space" - matter was not realeased "throughout" space (similar misconception to the first)
-Since time started at the big bang, there was no "before", so any speculation about it is meaningless.
-The big bang theory says nothing whatsoever about getting something from nothing
-The big bang theory does not say that "the absence of matter....has the ability to create matter"
Dragongod
Apr14-05, 02:53 PM
So what your saying is that it in no way makes any sense!!! because of the simple fact that science in no way justifies its begining. basically science says, like christians do about God, that it just had to always be there, it being the explosion. As well, the "explosion" has no reason for coming about, basically stating that explosions happen for no apparent reason.
russ_watters
Apr14-05, 03:21 PM
So what your saying is that it in no way makes any sense!!! Sorry - it makes sense, you just don't understand it. It may be difficult to comprehend, but that isn't the same as not making logical sense. because of the simple fact that science in no way justifies its begining. There are some pretty strong pieces of evidence for it. basically science says, like christians do about God, that it just had to always be there, it being the explosion. As well, the "explosion" has no reason for coming about, basically stating that explosions happen for no apparent reason. Again: not an explosion.
If you're looking for answers to deeper quesitons like "why?", sorry, but the big bang theory doesn't ask such questions. That's not a limitation of the theory, its just that you're looking for more than the theory can give you.
Dragongod
Apr14-05, 03:27 PM
WHAT! sorry if i am coming on strong but how can a theory offer an explanation about the creation of everything (the Universe) without stating how its possible for something like the Big Bang to occur. And its not hard to comprehend if only science made sense such as answering fundamental questions: how something like an "explosion" can just be there always. If science or the theory does not give an explanation for this, then its not me who is lacking in comprehension but the theory. I already know how it all actually happened and I can prove it quite easily but no one will listen to me because 1) they will say the answer is too simplistic or that fact that I am just a student without a Ph.D as if that means I can't reason or something.
arildno
Apr14-05, 03:49 PM
I already know how it all actually happened and I can prove it quite easily but no one will listen to me because 1) they will say the answer is too simplistic or that fact that I am just a student without a Ph.D as if that means I can't reason or something.
My, my.
Not a teensy bit arrogant aren't we?
Perhaps you should learn to wipe the snot out of your nose before talking with adults.
Dragongod
Apr14-05, 04:14 PM
HAHAHA sure guy. You want to go up against me, be my guest. I will offer by theory right now if you like then we'll see what you come up with to disprove me. I'd like to see that.
arildno
Apr14-05, 04:23 PM
Well, I'm not interested in your illogical crap.
Doc Al
Apr14-05, 04:31 PM
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