Can Tumours in One Person Differ from Each Other?

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The discussion revolves around the uniqueness of tumours within a single individual, exploring whether different tumours can exhibit distinct characteristics beyond size. It also touches on the causes of cancer, the behavior of tumour cells in various environments, and the possibility of tumours developing in atypical locations such as the heart.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether tumours can be unique like individuals, suggesting that they may differ in more than just size.
  • Another participant explains that tumours arise from rapid cell proliferation due to genetic mutations, leading to potential similarities between tumours in different individuals, while also noting that tumours can accumulate mutations that alter their characteristics.
  • A question is posed regarding the factors that prevent a liver tumour cell from growing in other organs, such as the kidney or thyroid, and whether tumours can develop in the heart.
  • A response indicates that normal cells require specific growth factors to survive in their native environment, while tumour cells can become autonomous and produce their own growth factors, potentially allowing them to grow in inappropriate tissues.
  • It is noted that certain types of malignant cancers, such as fibrosarcomas and rhabdomyosarcomas, can arise from the heart, although these occurrences are rare.
  • A participant introduces the concept of anoikis, a form of programmed cell death that can be bypassed by detached cells, potentially leading to cancer development.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion includes multiple competing views regarding the uniqueness of tumours and the conditions under which they can grow in different tissues. There is no consensus on the specifics of tumour behavior or the mechanisms behind cancer development.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the conditions that allow tumour cells to thrive outside their typical environments and the implications of genetic mutations on tumour characteristics. The discussion also highlights the complexity of cancer biology without resolving the underlying mechanisms.

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Are tumours unique like people i.e can two tumours in
one person be different from one another (not just in size).
And is cancer caused by the wrong chemical reactions occurring
in the body, or by the right ones happening too quickly, or
in the wrong order?
 
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Tumours are caused by the rapid proliferation of cells that is not kept in check. This is caused by mutations in genes. Certain mutations will give rise to certain tumours, so tumours in different individuals can be alike. On the other hand, due to the rapid growth of tumour cells more mutations will accumulate causing the tumour cells to change their appearance.
 
What stops a liver tumour cell from growing in the kidney or thyroid?
And can tumours grow in the heart?
 
A cell needs certain growth factors in order to survive in an environment. A normal liver cell would stop proliferating if it ended up in the wrong tissue. A tumour cell has the ability to produce its own growth factors: it has become autonomous and can take care of itself.

I guess tumours can grow in the heart, but it is probably unlikely because it is hard to access and maybe the tissue type (muscle) is not optimal.
 
Fibrosarcomas and Rhabdomyosarcomas are malignant cancers that develop from connective tissue and muscle respectively, and both can arise from the myocardium. These are extremely rare in the heart, but they can occur nonetheless.

A quote from Michael Onken,Washington university.
 
Also, there a type of programmed cell death that is mediated by detachment from the extracellular matrix. This is called anoikis and it usually occurs in epithelial cells. If a cell detach but does not die, then i may cause cancer.
 

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