Math pros, xperts, geeks and majors, me fix my math deficiency

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The discussion centers around addressing math deficiencies, particularly for individuals who have struggled with foundational concepts in high school mathematics. Participants share their experiences and suggest various methods for improving math skills, including self-study, tutoring, and course enrollment. The scope includes remedial education, self-directed learning, and preparation for advanced topics like calculus.

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  • One participant expresses feelings of shame regarding their math skills and describes a poor educational experience in high school, seeking advice on how to improve.
  • Another suggests enrolling in community college remedial courses that allow for self-paced learning and instructor support.
  • A recommendation is made to use James Stewart's "Intro to Calculus" as a resource for building comfort with math.
  • One participant advocates for finding a tutor, arguing that personalized instruction can significantly accelerate learning compared to self-study.
  • Contrasting views emerge on self-study, with some arguing it can be effective during low-pressure periods, while others caution that struggling alone can be inefficient.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of mastering algebra and geometry before tackling calculus, suggesting specific textbooks for foundational learning.
  • A participant shares their personal success story of improving math skills through consistent one-on-one help from teachers, highlighting the benefits of dedicated support.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational knowledge in math and the value of tutoring or personalized help. However, there is disagreement on the effectiveness of self-study versus guided learning, with differing opinions on the best approach to take.

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Some participants mention the challenges of learning under pressure and the potential benefits of a relaxed learning environment. There are also references to specific educational resources and methods, but no consensus on a singular best approach is reached.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals seeking to improve their math skills, particularly those with a background of poor educational experiences or those transitioning to more advanced mathematical topics.

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My math skills is horrid beyong recognition and I am ashamed of it. As you guys may I have noticed my first post here: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=76033

I am seeking help and advice on my math problem. The scoop is, my grade 11 and 12 math education was totally horrid. Well, i started grade 11 here in Canada when i moved from Asia.

My grade 11 and 12 teacher, never taught me anything, he will only teach once a month or so and just give us sheets of questions and write on the board: we are learning chapter XYZ, please read the following pages and do the questions. I managed to get through my memorizing a lot and not understanding the concept and of course it leads to my ultimate demise. After transfering school and taking high school calculus, it was a total disaster and I realized how screwed i am in math. Currently, i am doing an accounting and marketing major in university but my dream is to also have an electrical engineer background since i want a career in hi-tech...

can someone here please tell me what to do to fix my problem?
I have 4 summer break while working with AMD and i need to do something now..

please help me..
 
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You can check out some community colleges. The one near me offers remedial courses where you work at your own pace and the instructors basically help you as needed. They also offer regular courses in pre-algebra, pre-calculus, etc. I imagine most other community colleges would do much the same. You can attend during your summer break (if they have a summer term). You may also be able to take these classes online.
You could also just study on your own and come here when you need help :) You may not need to do as much work as you think. Where do you need to start? Are you comfortable with algebra and trigonometry?
 
pick up James Stewarts book" Intro to Calculus" that's the book you need to become comfortable in math.
 
You need to get tutor. There is simply no other way.

I think you would be ready to take college calculus after about 20 sessions, if they are a good tutor. This is based on a person of reasonable intelligence starting from high school pre-algebra. People who actually do math (in universities, as opposed to high schools) can teach you algebra the right way in a few hours (I've had people wonder "what was going on all those years in high school?").

Tutoring is the easiest way to learn math, in my opinion. The progress made by a student in just a few weeks of tutoring sessions is as substantial as taking a semester long course.

The next best thing you can do for yourself after finding a tutor is to learn to read math and physics textbooks. This takes a long time, and is very important to engineers (who must learn complex instructions quickly).
 
take calc book and BEGIN ON YOUR OWN .doing it all on your own that's the best way ,
 
take calc book and BEGIN ON YOUR OWN .doing it all on your own that's the best way ,

I wouldn't recommend this, even if you are of above average intelligence. It's usually a more painstaking and slow process, when trying to push through difficult concepts on your own. If it were the case that learning on your own was the best way, school would have no purpose. Not to say; "have someone do your homework for you", that's one of the few exceptions I would make to my above statement. You must struggle with problems, and only until you have put everything you have into them, and still couldn't find an answer, that's when you seek help. But having someone to work through solutions, as well clarify concepts within a class environment, has been at least to me, the easiest way to learn.
 
There are several advantages in learning yourself, at least, say, during summer vacation time. For starters, no pressure of exams; some people would memorize and not understand because deadlines are coming up. Some people, however, can only learn when pressured.
 
i recommend learning algebra well from a good high school book, like the wonderful book of Harold Jacobs. He also has a terrific book on geometry. After that calculus is much easier. Doing calculus before understanding both geometry and algebra well is a mistake, and even folly. :smile:
 
One on one sessions help so much! When i wanted to get back to math, i asked my teachers for help in the morning for atleast 1 hour every day. I basically lived and breathed math this past year. I'm almost caught up where i want to be. I went from a guy who had 40% to somebody who has 80% in advance functions (i live in Canada). My calculus is meh but that's because i didn't take the pre requesite.
 

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