Faster than light communication

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The discussion revolves around the concept of superluminal communication as proposed in a paper by V.P. Oleinik. Participants explore the validity of the claims made in the paper, which suggests that superluminal communication is possible through the transformation of the environment by the fields generated by particles. The scope includes theoretical implications and critiques of the paper's assertions.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the validity of Oleinik's claims regarding superluminal communication, with one noting that the paper has not been published or cited in reputable journals.
  • One participant highlights a specific excerpt from the paper's abstract that claims the environment can instantaneously transfer signals about changes to particles over large distances.
  • Concerns are raised about the author's credentials, with some questioning the absence of a PhD designation and suggesting that the paper may not reflect a high standard of scientific rigor.
  • Another participant mentions that the assertion of superluminal communication raises alarms, suggesting that the claims may be unfounded or misleading.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of electromagnetic potentials in quantum mechanics, with one participant arguing that the paper misinterprets the significance of these potentials.
  • A mathematical assertion is made regarding the limits of data transmission due to the speed of light, introducing a complex number as part of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the validity of the claims made in the paper. Multiple competing views are presented, with some expressing skepticism and others questioning the basis of that skepticism.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of citations and the author's credentials, which may affect the perceived credibility of the claims. There is also a mention of the potential misunderstanding of concepts related to electromagnetic potentials, indicating that the discussion may hinge on nuanced interpretations of physics.

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Hi,

I just found this on archive:

physics/0306073 [abs, pdf] :
Title: Information Field and Superluminal Communication
Authors: V.P.Oleinik
Comments: 14 pages, pdf
Subj-class: General Physics

Has anyone heard of this and do you think it is a valid claim?
 
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An exerpt from the abstract sums it up:
...That superluminal communication is possible is seen from the fact that the own field, generated by particles and inseparable from them, transforms the environment into a special physical medium which is capable to instantaneously transfer a signal (information) about any changes, happening to a particle in the region of its basic localization, to arbitrarily large distances...
The author has submitted two other papers to arXiv, none of which have been published, or cited, in a respectable journal. The assertion "fact" tripped my cowpie alarm. A quick sniff halfway through the paper confirmed that suspicion to my satisfaction.
 
Its weird.

Why would anyone with such a seemingly advanced knowledge of physics (its looks like he's educated to at least phd level) spend time writing crap?
 
Russia is famous for producing high quality math an notorious for producing high quality crackpottery.

I don't see anywere in there where it says the writer is a phd - generally that would be right after his name, right under the title.
 
russ_watters said:
Probably not valid, but can you provide a link?
Not valid assumes that you read them all and judged them all by comoparison.

Pete
 
russ_watters said:
I don't see anywere in there where it says the writer is a phd - generally that would be right after his name, right under the title.

I have never seen a physics paper where the author's credentials or titles were listed.

The assertion "fact" tripped my cowpie alarm.

This is a normal figure of speach used in formal writing.

Despite those little nits, this paper does indeed appear to be "cowpie." The author seems to be claiming that electromagnetic potentials are real. He cites the Ahanarov-Bohm effect as evidence, but this is a misunderstanding. Just because the potential is more meaningful in QM does not mean that it is entirely physical.
 
I gues because there is a limit on the speed at which everything can travel (c), there is a finite amount of data which can be transmitted in any finite amount of time.

1/0=i;
 

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